Somewhat akin to what Ray Charles did with Country (i.e. transform it into Soul), most of the Country material performed by Elvis was transformed through R&B into Rock. In the early days, Elvis turned just about everything into Rock (albeit, many times of the Adult Contemporary variety) -- conversely how Johnny Cash (in recent years) has turned a lot of Rock back into Country.
I would say that Willie Nelson is mostly country, though, he also has a long string of Adult Contemporary.
As far as the export of Country goes, have you ever heard of Germany's Bear Family Records? These guys put out some of the most comprehensive box sets in the industry and include acts like Waylon Jennings and Johnny Cash, and, i understand they do a fairly brisk amount of European business. As far as the Japanese flavors you speak of; i haven't heard a thing.
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― christoff (christoff), Thursday, 5 September 2002 18:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
So what's R&B then?
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 5 September 2002 18:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 September 2002 19:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
Surely i'll step forward and praise the documentarists. I wouldn't be so naive as to suggest that these recorded pieces are completely comprehensive, but to this point, it's the best reference material we have and which to base our musilogical history. As for their alleged prejudicial recording process -- who cares; take the material for what it's worth (i for one tend to enjoy it). Without their work we'd be as ignorant as you clalm Chernoff may have been in his analysis of the Ghanaian Drumming culture.
Since you ...accept that music forms in the Brazilian rainforest were maybe unaffected by these European trends..., let's look to the East whose culture developed in moderate to total isolation. The Aborigines performed ritual music (as did many). Ritual music in itself belays your notion of the 4-6 minute song -- and don't say that these ritual performers weren't any more professional than the Orissi dance troupes of India or the members of the Greek Rebetika (as Lord Custos Alpha so appropriately illustrates that commerce is at best fluid).
Music has always been an organic pursuit. The weather changes the acoustics of the instruments as war encourages more strident rhythms. Maybe somewhere along the way a couple-a-hillbillies thought they could make some spare change if they played a few tunes on a street corner -- and dad-burn-it if'n they didn't get more copper for the more differ'nt songs that they could play. 'N for dances, shoot, ever'body gots a differ'nt song that they'd-a-rather hear. ...Country, dear friend, Country started well after these things.
...But if you want to keep pushing this thing back to when the first knuckle-dragging Neanderthal starting beating some bones on a log; you seem more than qualified to undertake the task.
― christoff (christoff), Thursday, 5 September 2002 19:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
You're really asking for a mess now aren't you?
I think i might just like you.
― christoff (christoff), Thursday, 5 September 2002 19:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 September 2002 20:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 5 September 2002 20:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 September 2002 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 September 2002 20:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 5 September 2002 20:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 5 September 2002 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 September 2002 20:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 5 September 2002 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 September 2002 20:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
" 'I've had fun here.' - JFK Jr. 'Sexiest Man Alive' spends weekend in Clarksdale visiting blues sites, cotton harvest."
I think Sterling might have been on to something up there with the "Christian pop for the fallen" thing but he lost me when he nullified the 70's Hurtin-Beard.
― The Actual Mr. Jones (actual), Thursday, 5 September 2002 21:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle, Thursday, 5 September 2002 21:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― The Actual Mr. Jones (actual), Thursday, 5 September 2002 21:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 6 September 2002 03:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 6 September 2002 08:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
Both the historian and the documentarian share a purpose, though - only the tense changes. The purpose is to record what happens/what did happen, not what should have happened or should be happening. The historian has an extra purpose which is to explain why things happened, and this includes an assessment of the ways in which the documentarian failed.
The work of a bad historian or a bad documentarian can still be valuable and enjoyable, but that's not the same thing.
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 6 September 2002 10:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― the pinefox, Friday, 6 September 2002 10:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 6 September 2002 13:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 6 September 2002 14:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 6 September 2002 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
P.S I know that it is a male singer
― Tslentz, Thursday, 9 January 2003 05:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 9 January 2003 07:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 9 January 2003 07:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 9 January 2003 08:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 9 January 2003 08:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm interested; where does good "Country" exist in the current zeitgeist? The popular acts have zero cred, so where's the true cache?
Gillian Welch is and easy choice, so are the Black Twig Pickers. Cast King, Whitey Morgan
Resurrect this son-of-a-bitch with some genuine earthiness!
― suspecterrain, Monday, 20 February 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
What?
― getting good with gulags (beachville), Monday, 20 February 2012 13:26 (twelve years ago) link
The popular acts have zero cred,
I've seen trolls uglier than this.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
1925 - The Rice-Kellogg research paper was published, establishing the basic principle of the direct-radiator loudspeaker with a small coil-driven mass-controlled diaphragm in a baffle with a broad midfrequency range of uniform response. On Nov. 28, WSM in Nashville ("We Shield Millions" slogan of owner Edwin Craig's National Life and Accident Insurance Co.) began its Barn Dance radio show (hosted by George D. Hay who had previously hosted the WLS Barn Dance show) that in 1927 became the Grand Ole Opry broadcast from WSM's Studio B on the new NBC network. The Grand Ole Opry moved to the the Ryman Auditorium in 1943 and with the Acuff-Rose 1942 studio and WSM's 1947 Castle Studio would attract recording companies to Nashville's Music Row.this is from an incredibly excellent page with all sorts of links on it --> http://history.acusd.edu/gen/recording/notes.html
this is from an incredibly excellent page with all sorts of links on it --> http://history.acusd.edu/gen/recording/notes.html
― Can You Please POLL Out Your Window? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 February 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
(looking forward to reading longer posts, especially by mark s, later today)
― Can You Please POLL Out Your Window? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 February 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
The popular acts have zero cred
I suppose you think current R&B acts have zero cred because they don't sound exactly like Sam Cooke.
― President Keyes, Monday, 20 February 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
I suppose you think current R&B acts have zero cred because...
...Advance directly to Frank Ocean
― suspecterrain, Monday, 20 February 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
Recording Technology History page mentioned upthread is now hosted here: http://www.aes.org/aeshc/docs/recording.technology.history/notes.html
― Wild Mountain Armagideon Thyme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 05:37 (ten years ago) link
(It seems to move around a lot. The author is one Steven Schoenherr in case we need to look for it again, and to give credit where credit is due)
― Wild Mountain Armagideon Thyme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 05:41 (ten years ago) link
Related links here, although a few are broken: http://ncrtv.org/?page_id=52
― Wild Mountain Armagideon Thyme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 05:49 (ten years ago) link
Great link to the Recording History site -- thx Redd; what new technologies will we again need to transfer to? I'm sticking to vinyl.
― bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 07:16 (ten years ago) link
I don't have any problems with Nashville pop acts these days, more or less. Some of it catches my ear, a lot of it doesn't. I seriously balk at the notion it should still be called country music, though. Like, whoever...The Band Perry or Blake Shelton or Dierks...are the John Waites and Pat Benatars and Bon Jovis of the 21st century. Corporate rock is still corporate rock, except the center of gravity is now on Music Row instead of Vine.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 07:27 (ten years ago) link