'Marquee Moon' LP is overrated

ME TO FRIEND: "You wanna hear guitars fuck? You do? Well, I've got just the record for you!"

EMBARASSING CONFESSION OF THE YEAR: I masturbated to it as a teenager. Really. It's had quite a bit of influence on my sexuality, and I plan to write an essay on that soon.

Very few bands have come close to capturing this sort of synergistic brilliance. Early Treepeople, perhaps. Hot Snakes? It's a fine art, and Lloyd and Verlaine were the absolute masters of this art.

Get yourself a girlfriend, boyfriend or sex doll. You pick!

Oh, and fuck off, Mr. Que.

For chrissakes, the very name was a euphemism for the act of fornicating.

Go find a pumpkin patch.

"Marquee Moon" too long? That's impossible. On The Blow-Up, even though the sound sucks, it's 14:45 and too short. On Live At The Old Waldorf, it sounds amazing, and at 15:45, I'm still wanting more. There's a live disc in Tom Verlaine's A Miller's Tale compilation that has incredible sound, with a 13:58 version. It's not nearly long enough. The song has reached over 17 minutes, but I don't know of any recordings of it. Plenty of rockers have been inspired by John Coltrane, from The Byrds to John McLaughlin & Carlos Santana's Love, Devotion, Surrender (1972), and nothing beats "Marquee Moon." The very first chords hit that rare sweet spot that never fail to send chills up the spine. It's eerie, a little melancholy, electrifying.

Television has inspired plenty of obsessive acolytes, including The Feelies, Felt, and more recently, Sonic Youth (hear "Rain On Tin"). Yet nothing quite matches Marquee Moon's peculiar dry guitar sound and telepathic, serpentine interplay. Overrated? Fucking hogwash. Just try to find an album that surpasses what Marquee Moon accomplished.

-- Brooker Buckingham (brooker...), October 12th, 2006. (Brooker B)

OH YEAH ASSHOLE, YOUVE HEARD A TON OF MUSIC

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WInKHEhRrvM

Um, yeah, The Allman Brothers. Good example, but different. A looser mesh. I'd say Quicksilver Messenger Service and Grateful Dead, both of whom were influences on Verlaine, are better examples from that era.

Don't forget the Hampton Grease Band and the Beefheart with the Magic Band.

Luna had some incredible dual guitar moments, but obv. derivative of VU, Television, Feelies.

i came around, tho. totally love it. "friction" is an amazing song, all the individual pieces are great and they fit together so well, but there's still all this space between them. i hardly think of Tv even having "riffs."

Same here, alongside the kinky, kind of freaky solo in "Baby's On Fire" and a Dead cover of "Good Lovin'" from a show in 1970. Long, raw, bestial pleasure, that one.

-- Brooker Buckingham (brooker...), October 12th, 2006. (Brooker B)

havent heard much early TP - im sure theyre good, i was just fucking around cause yr only examples of synergistic brilliance seem randomish

thin lizzy is another good example of sweet twin lead action

don't have a Please Kill Me handy, but I can relate an anecdote I heard from an extremely reliable source…the following may not be true, but the source, who was around NYC in the early mid 70s and knew everybody in the CB's/Max diaspora, swears it is…

A very young Lloyd approaches one James Marshall Hendrix on the street one day. Says Young Lloyd "man Hendrix, you're fucking great. You're the best guitarist who ever lived! You're my idol! Can…can…can I suck your cock??"

Hendrix's response was to knock Lloyd out with one punch to the kisser.

Not trying to spread rumors or nothin'…just sharin' a funnee…

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Funnily enough, I blind tested live a Lizzy track for two metal-intolerant friends and they confidently identified it as Television.

But, yeah, Marquee Moon? It's no 'live and dangerous'.

personally i think they do it too fast.