the killers - are they killer?

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The video for 'All These Things That I've Done' should be utter wank, seeing as it's the band being greeted and followed by hipster fans as they parade around Brick Lane, but it's quite sweet as every so often a tramp or saggy middle-aged member of the public gets in the way.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 21 August 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
So I have to write about the Killers this week. Got the CD in the mail, first listen I'm torn between two opinions expressed upthread: "transparent masquerade of a band" versus "it's a hoot, lots of trashy hooks." The result will probably be an even handed uninspired album review. Damn it!

piers (piers), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
there's a little synth swell in "Mr. Brightside" that totally reminds me of Disintegration, Plainsong I think.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link

A few Killer singles, a mostly filler album.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Sunday, 24 October 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

dud

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

teeny otm.

on the More In The Monitor blog they pointed out that the guys don't move around much live. Disappointing, as I was hoping they did more Duran-style sashay-age or something.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I loved Marion, but The Killers album is boring. And yet I too can't help loving Mr Brightside. There's a bit of a desperate panic in the verses which works really well, and which I like hearing and feeling.

JimD (JimD), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

ok I listened to the whole album now and LOTS of it reminds me of LOTS of the cure, about 1984-1992.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I really found these too hysterical.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I've been obsessing over "Mr Brightside". Maybe my favourite Placebo song right now (and I like Placebo plenty). I'm not as into anything else I've checked out though.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link

So, I like a lot of old '80s new wave music. I would say that I mostly like the quality of the songwriting, arrangements, the good singers, and the continuation of Roxy Music/Bowie/Kraftwerk aesthetics in this music. When indie rock first started to go new wave (which I really think began with Stereolab, then started to become more of a movement around '97 or so with the first batch of U.S. nu wavers: Satisfact, Gogogoairheart, Computer Cougar/Beautiful Skin), it seemed TO ME like a bold aesthetic move. And I've followed it since then to the extent that it's seemed interesting to me--I'm thinking of bands like the Rapture (whose first EP was on Gravity and is kind of Swell Maps-y), Glass Candy (I don't know--I have the first two singles), Chromatics, Lansing-Dreiden...

Two years ago, I thought that KRMTX "Ice Hatchets" single was really good. I just put it on recently, though, and thought, "What's the point?" I realize that they have a "darker" aesthetic, but there's nothing musically present in KRMTX that sets them apart from, say, Franz Ferdinand. And Franz Ferdinand write better songs, play better, have a better sound, and have a singer that you can actually hear/understand. The thing is, I think, that some of youse think that the new crop of successful and popular nu wavers are dumbing something down. So, what, Franz Ferdinand are dumbing down the Chromatics? The Yeah Yeah Yeahs are dumbing down Glass Candy and the Shattered Theater? The Killers are dumbing down Gogogoairheart? Now, maybe youse guys aren't really into the Chromatics, Glass Candy and the Shattered Theater, and Gogogoairheart, but I'd guess that you don't feel so vehemently opposed to them as you do to the Killers and Frank Ferdinand.

My point is that THERE WAS NOTHING TO DUMB DOWN IN THAT MUSIC IN THE FIRST PLACE. There is no CONTENT in the music of those bands that is missing in bands like the Killers or Franz Ferdinand. In fact, a band like the Killers seem to be GOOFING on the lack of content in this genre with their ridiculous lyrics and the guy's ridiculous singing (which is what I was getting at with that "Believe Me, Natalie" thread).

Also: it's only "fucking Dawson's Creek music" because these bands have better production value.

PEACE-OUT!

T.

-- Tim Ellison (timejeanne...), January 10th, 2005.

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Although I've found something called "Born to Fail" by what must be a different band called The Killers. It's not bad for regular punk rock stuff. Reminds me a little of "Masochism World", I think.

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sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 07:41 (nineteen years ago) link

thats probably, ex-iron maiden frontman, Paul Dianno's band

chaki in charge (chaki), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 10:00 (nineteen years ago) link

they are so fucking bad I can't believe it. one of the worst bands to come with a wave of praise behind them, mildly disappointing acts like Interpol or the Strokes after the first album can't even compete with the Killers.

I simply can't believe that even indie critics would accept this sub teen movie crap as something good, and beyond good, as something cool!!!!!

Do people have any standards whatsoever?

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 10:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha! I listened to the album the other day - I quite enjoy it. It's good bubblegum synthpunk. Nice hooks.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 10:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought i hated them and then i heard jacques lu cont play 'mr brightside' and i didn't hate them so much, but i think i still kinda hate them. they seem a lot more absurd than interpol or whoever so i can appreciate that.

pete b. (pete b.), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:04 (nineteen years ago) link

my reaction the first time i heard them was exactly like ronan's though, do people have any standards, indeed.

pete b. (pete b.), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Somebody Told Me is wicked. The last track on the album was A Fucking Bad Idea though.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link

wtf! are these guys american!!??!!??!!?? i thought we'd all gone back to 1994 or some shit. but if they're american that wd explain it: they are the new green day, if you catch my drift.

henry miller, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

sub teen movie crap

Sounds good to me.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:17 (nineteen years ago) link

dasbootfast club

henry miller, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, but you're actually teenage, whereas Ronan is now early 20s and so kicking against it with all his might. I however am mid-20s, and thus do nothing but read comics and play video games.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I find the huge praise and popularity very bemusing: I suppose "Somebody Told Me" isn't too bad (I was pleasantly surprised that it had a tune &c, after the debacle of every Libertines song I've tried to listen to) but this band are just so unremittingly mediocre and uninteresting.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been obsessing over "Mr Brightside". Maybe my favourite Placebo song right now (and I like Placebo plenty).

The problem with The Killers is that they take all that was annoying about Placebo and nothing that was good (ie, the first two albums).

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

The second Placebo album is the best thing they ever made, though, Dom! And I can't hear any of it in The Killers...lots and lots of Rick Witter, however. And Duran. Mmm.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm implying that "Placebo" and "Without You I'm Nothing" are the only two Placebo albums that don't make me want to cry with embarassment that I own them.

The Killers totally sound like early Placebo, when they were in NME rather than Kerrang.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm literally flabbergasted these guys are from vegas and want to sound like a fucking melody maker singles review page from autumn 1996.

Miles Finch, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, but you're actually teenage, whereas Ronan is now early 20s and so kicking against it with all his might. I however am mid-20s, and thus do nothing but read comics and play video games.

Is this what I have to expect for the next seven years of my life?

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link

no, you don't have to hate teen movies in your early twenties. i'm mid-twenties and still like 'em but never felt the need to harsh on them. however, this doesn't stop ver killers from being teh sukc, because they are repro through and through. whereas teen movies progress.

Miles Finch, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

irrelevant since I'm not british anyway.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Does anyone need The Killers now The Bravery have arrived?

mnm, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Perhaps Dawsons Creek is a better reference point than the fairly broad "teen movies", but I said that elsewhere!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 12:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Fun as it is, I'm pretty surprised that The Killers' Hot Fuss has been nominated for a Brit Award...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Slag against the Strokes: check; first 34 posts in; 2.5 occurences total
Disparaging remark about "hipster[s]": check; first 2 posts in; 2 occurences total
Usage of the term "rubbish": astonishingly, zero

I am going to use this judging system for every single "[insert new rock band that sounds vaguely like '70s/'80s/'90s Britpop band] sucks" thread from here on in.

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Mr. Brightside is totally wasted on a shitty video...

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

WTF that video is one of the best of the year! Eric Roberts and the singer plays checkers over a girl in a bordello! DANCING! Lots of shameless Robert Smith-Simon Le Bon style mugging. He even knocks over a table in slo-mo a la "Hungry Like The Wolf!" AFTER Eric Roberts makes a kissy face at him!

FUCKING CLASSIC.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Between that and "She Will Be Loved," Sophie Muller was easily the best video director of '04. Drama!

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I still think this album is thoroughly enjoyable.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

My review of Hot Fuss for Stylus. Teeny OTM.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

ironically, anthony is wrong...

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

(wrt the video part)

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

dude I listed nothing but factual evidence in my description. You probably think "Paranoid Android" is some heavy shit or something.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Nate I'm not sure if you think you're masking bullshit American "anti-British" attitudes as discussions of music or not, but if you are you really need to wake up and take a good look at yourself.

Because if anyone, who had never been outside their own country, presumably, was talking about other countries in a hugely generalised manner and throwing out bilious and random criticisms aimed at people from that country on threads where a great deal of the posters are not in fact British, well then that person would be a fucking insular prejudiced idiot at a time when those idiots are running the world.

I'm sure you're not doing this though are you

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish the lyrics were better, but I really like this album. The hooks are huge and it's sort of relentless and fun. Apparently there's a Mylo remix of "Somebody Told Me" that just came out that's good?

Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Radiohead is poo.

More about the video; it's poorly spaced and under casted, badly shot esp. considering it's Moulin Rouged out; to make things worse, what's-his-name the lead singer can't even pretend to mime the words like he gives a flying fuck -- and it's one thing to be young and bored, but you're trying to sell the song...

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

dude he is sooooo not pretending to be bored! he even shakes his body and flips his arms around "voila!"-style! and how can a video be under casted if its got Eric Roberts, some dancing lothario, tons of courtesans AND what appears to be a second-long shot of Scarlett Johnannsen dressed like a man!

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

what did you want, Corey Feldman dressed as a pirate too?

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link

MULTIPLE SHOTS OF ERIC ROBERTS THROWING AN APPLE! YOU ARE BLIND.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

ooh I just watched the video and it's okay on a certain level but really it should have been set in a really nasty goth club.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sure you're not doing this though are you

Sarcasm aside, no I'm not doing that. I'm just sick of the predictable "done before and better feh poo blah" attitude that permeates Every. Single. Thread. about any nu-rock band that commits the unpardonable sin of, you know, using guitars. I'm also sick of the sweeping condemnation of said bands sucking for no discernible reason than these people care to explain other than "they exist" and "it was done better by some band nobody cares about anymore". And I'm sick of the "hipster" strawman being delivered by people more provincial and snobbish than any hipster I've ever met.

If it makes you feel better, Thin Lizzy's Live and Dangerous is my favorite late '70s rock album right now. Feel that voib, whydon't'cha.

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link


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