― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 13 January 2007 07:48 (seventeen years ago) link
does not compute
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 13 January 2007 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Froggy went a courtin' (Bimble...), Saturday, 13 January 2007 08:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 13 January 2007 08:52 (seventeen years ago) link
Not enough Johnny Fever. Thou must experience early Xymox to understand, I think. "Medusa" was just amazing when it first came out. I don't know what I would think of it now...first album was pretty cool too.
― White Dopes on Punk (Bimble...), Saturday, 13 January 2007 08:54 (seventeen years ago) link
I agree with most of that. Even the new Kristin Hersh is only OK by her standards (so far; may well reveal itself over time)
― Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 13 January 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link
it's still great!
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― tears, and urine (blood bitch), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― White Drunks on Pope (Bimble...), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Cuba (or Air Cuba, as they cam to be known stateside)TarnationLiquoriceThat Dog (well, Guernica, but basically the same label)
way underrated 4AD releases:
Cass McCombs - AInsides - Euphoria, ClearskinAir Miami - Me Me MeUnderground Lovers - Leaves Me BlindThe Late Cord - Lights From The Wheelhouse
in fact, the Guernica offshoot more than deserves it's own thread...don't you think?
― hank (hank s), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link
insides = classic.
― tears (blood bitch), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― emekars (emekars), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 13 January 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link
Tarnation"
I disagree. I rather like Tarnation, and am pleased that there is a 2007 release planned for these guys.
― jodi, samurai photographer (burun), Saturday, 13 January 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link
But yeah, anyone putting Tarnation on a list of 4AD duds is RETARDED!
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 13 January 2007 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― hank (hank s), Saturday, 13 January 2007 23:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 14 January 2007 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― PAUL FUCKING ROBINSON (electricsound), Sunday, 14 January 2007 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― White Dopes on Punk (Bimble...), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link
I nominate Thievery Corporation be accorded "dud" status, effective immediately...
the hell were they doing on 4AD?
― hank (hank s), Sunday, 14 January 2007 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― PAUL FUCKING ROBINSON (electricsound), Sunday, 14 January 2007 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 14 January 2007 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 January 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link
just noticed that 4ad have signed camera obscura.. will be interesting to see how that pairing goes
other new signings broken records i like a lot, the singles so far haven't been amazing but i can see real potential there
― electrodribble sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 13 February 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link
there's a new single on itunes, er, My Maudlin Career, but i didn't notice the label when i listened to it.
― koogs, Friday, 13 February 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
4A-twee
― f. hazel, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe i wasn't paying attention but it completely passed me by that 4AD signed up ariel pink, tindersticks and serena-maneesh.
― blarinet (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link
...as a supergroup.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link
oooh
― blarinet (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link
This Mortal. Just that, This Mortal.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 00:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Weren't Tindersticks sort of in the same neighborhood as 4AD, anyway, under the Beggars Group umbrella? Or is that just in the US?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link
they were signed to Constellation in North America as far as I know.
Anyway, I'm just pleased they're still kicking.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 16 December 2009 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link
i feel like the label is kind of a hodgepodge these days and filled with stuff that doesn't necessarily reflect the 'brand', in fact, it seems much more like beggar's banquet now. but whatever.
― akm, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link
and yet they seem to be killin' it in the eoy polls, hmm
― blarinet (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah all the stuff is good and some of it is exceptional (the mountain goats album is my second favorite album of the year), it just seems more hodgepodge than it has in many many years.
― akm, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link
oh i agree, but i don't think it's to their detriment..
― blarinet (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link
They ARE Beggar's Banquet these days. All their other labels were folded into 4AD last year or the year before. 4AD as a curated collection is over.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 06:29 (fourteen years ago) link
well there you go, I didn't even notice that. makes sense then.
― akm, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Says something about the value and impact of relative brands that it was 4AD that survived as the label instead of Beggars.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link
bloke I work with has just signed (pretty great three record deal tbh) with 4AD and his band is indeed more beggars-friendly.
― what kind of present your naked body (Upt0eleven), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
4ad turn 30 next year and they offer a free download of another 30 song sampler for christmas.
― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
"but I had a moment of blissful personal revelation a couple of years back when I realised that the whole 4AD aesthetic was a gothick romantic gauzy great DUD"
I think I realized this in 1990.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I enjoy most of those adjectives. Well, except the last one.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 17 December 2009 07:36 (fourteen years ago) link
"I think I realized this in 1990."
I recall feeling this way some time ago - maybe around the time I discovered American indie guitar rock in the early 90's. But recently I've started out my 4ad records and tapes out and I'm having far too much fun listening to them to dismiss it all. And some of them have aged really well to my ears. The Nooten/Brook record mentioned up thread is really amazing. I listened to Clan of Xymox Medusa last night and that one sounds really great as well. And I still love This Mortal Coil.
― sknybrg, Thursday, 17 December 2009 08:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Nooten/Brook album is one of teh five best 4ad albums ever.
― akm, Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Personally I'd take the 4AD back catalogue over the entire dreary legions of "American indie guitar rock" in an instant. The idea that a group like Pavement could be responsible for any kind of paradigm shift in anyone's thinking is just baffling to me.
― anagram, Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
If they're bankrolling Scott Walker they can have my money forever.
― Thulsa Doob (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link