Top 100 Artists who you suspect are common soundtracks to sexual assault

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I heard there was an instance of

75)Nirvana's 'Polly'

being sung by two guys while sexually assaulting someone. I think they may have missed the point.

Bob, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 12:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

74) Ocean Colour Scene

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 12:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

73) Ja Rule and his stupid moustache

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 12:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

IN MY EXPERIENCE... (I am only typing that once, so I don't get accused of generalisations throughout this post.)

...one of the worst parts of the aftermath of sexual assault is other people trying to dictate your reactions for you. JBR and John D have (perhaps unintentionally) tweaked two of my biggest bugbears. I am reacting to the stereotypes, rather than the people expressing the viewpoints.

First off, there is the Sensitive New Age Guy who acts as if anyone even talking about rape is SOOOOO offensive to women that we mustn't discuss it at all. They do this under the guise of being sensitive towards women, but really... it's because it makes THEM uncomfortable to talk about it.

Second, there's the Survivor who gets so defensive that if you even mention your own experiences, you're accused of "hiding behind victim mentality" or the like.

Rape is a double assault in that you are not just physically assaulted, but you are also made to feel ashamed, made to feel that it is your fault, and made to feel that you CAN NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT what has been DONE TO YOU. Do people who are hit by cars or have their houses broken into get this kind of enforced shame? No. Talking about rape, even in a lighthearted way, is not offensive. NOT TALKING about rape, and making it seem like something shameful that you should keep quiet about for fear of being seen to "boast" - THAT is FAR more offensive to me.

As trolling as the genesis of this thread may have been, I think it's a valid question, something really interesting and important to discuss. And yes, ILM often discusses things in very flippant and potentially offensive ways, but I'm not going to stand back from the discussion cause someone makes a flippant "Serial date rapist, what's on your walkman?" comment.

Music affects all of our emotions - it heightens our romantic feelings when we're in love, it heightens our desolation and depression when we're sad. The music doesn't cause the emotion, but it does stir and affect it. So why not discuss what kind of music potentially stirs and heightens aggressive and mysogynist emotions?

People talk about Frat Boy Rock in regards to date rape. Interesting. Let's talk about nu metal and its relation to the assaults that take place in the moshpits of debacles like the last Woodstock. And talk about Nirvana, and men missing the point of lyrics like "Rape me, do it again" while perpetrating rape. (Did this really happen, or is it another urban myth? I'm curious...) I'm interested in the *assumptions* about what a rapist would listen to as much as what they *actually* listened to.

BTW, do I think it was a coicidence that the boy who assaulted me was listening to Metallica? I don't think so.

kate, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

'BTW, do I think it was a coicidence that the boy who assaulted me was listening to Metallica? I don't think so'

Seriously, why?

dave q, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I mean, I'd hate for somebody to scan my CD collection and come to the conclusion that I was Ted Bundy.

dave q, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did you read my post at all, Dave Q? I didn't say that the music *caused* his aggressive emotions, but that listening to aggressive music when you are feeling aggressive is probably far more likely to make you *act* on that aggression.

kate, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well this gets into subjectivity problems. If somebody listens to powerviolence or gabba or something, Metallica might be 'mellow' to them. Attributing essentials to specific records, too many situational factors come into play. I listen to Geto Boys to relax and get my mind off shit.

dave q, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

IIRC, most power violence is quite PC.

kate, thanks for posting that.

Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 14:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Go, Kate, go.

Sublime's "Date Rape" is about a date rapist that gets sent to jail for said offense and then gets raped in jail IIRC.

How has no one mentioned
72) Eminem? Hello?

praying mantis (praying mantis), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 20:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

four months pass...
Michel Polnareff

dave q, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

to me, the point is that a person with aggressive tendencies is more likely to listen to aggressive music. the music isn't responsible; it merely reflects the individual. and if a person is really hell-bent on rape, he isn't going to give a shit what's on the stereo, whether it's low or mortiis.

call mr. lee (call mr. lee), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 22:32 (twenty years ago) link

To people who were offended by this thread, see: George Carlin - Rape Can Be Funny, for further explanation on why you're a moron.

David Allen, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:17 (twenty years ago) link

Oh PC, the death of me![/mocka]

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Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 02:37 (twenty years ago) link

Oh crap, my masterpiece is ruined.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 02:38 (twenty years ago) link

Ministry
The Mentors
Etc.

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 03:42 (twenty years ago) link


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