A good old-fashioned tune never goes out of fashion. Rap and techno are going to die!!!!!

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I really miss threads like this on ILM.

Oh, no, wait.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 20 November 2003 23:14 (twenty years ago) link

i wonder what geir would think of yo la tengo's "nuclear war". it's just voice and drums after all

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 20 November 2003 23:15 (twenty years ago) link

He'd probably hate it, because he only likes MELODY!!! Eh? Eh?

― F. Anthony O'Reilly (Ferg), Thursday, 20 November 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

I predict that this thread will inspire four young fresh-faced Wallys from up the 'Pool to write and rock.

― IOW, Friday, 21 November 2003 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

Ha, the first time I read the title of this thread I thought it was calling "Rap and techno are going to die!!" an old-fashioned tune--that is, the same old song about how the "new" music is a fad that the trad folks are always humming. And in a way, that's exactly what this thread has turned out to be.

― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Friday, 21 November 2003 06:14 (twenty years ago) link

Geir, how long do you think these "fads" of rap and techno are going to last before they inevitably fall out of favor?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 21 November 2003 06:38 (twenty years ago) link

I already answered that in another thread: Until the kids discover that their parents and teachers are hip-hop fans. :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 21 November 2003 11:19 (twenty years ago) link

but your parents are beatles and britpop fans....

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 21 November 2003 11:28 (twenty years ago) link

Everybody can put together some
sounds on a sequencer and/or shout some rude words backed by a record
player.

... Hang on a mo!!! If it's so easy that anyone can do it, then that kind of suggests it's a bit more accessible to the average Joe & Jill Public, and therefore it won't die because it's obvious "entry-level" muzikkxxz for tha popstars of 2morrow!!!!!!

It'll be like skiffle again- only with USB drives!!!!!!

― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:16 (twenty years ago) link

but your parents are beatles and britpop fans....

I never bought the pathetic idea of generational rebellion. Lots of kids do, though, and they are the ones that get into hip-hop and stuff like that.

Metal manages to have an everlasting rebellious effect as it gets noisier and noiser while the lyrical content gets more and more satanic and violent. Rap, I cannot see have any way to go to be able to piss off older hip-hop fans, other than simply not being hip-hop anymore.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

Geir, you should REALLY pay more attention to the undie-hop vs mainstream arguments.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

Is it possible that, quite like rock music which started out very simplistically and RHYTHMIC, hip-hop and techo might *LOUD [SARCASTIC] GASP* der her her EVOLVE into things beyond what originally defined them as styles of music? Or possibly that *EVEN LOUDER [MORE SARCASTIC] GASP* it might already be happening, and you, in your predisposition to not listening to anything in these genres, might be missing out on it?

No, no, couldn't be.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

Like Outkast ferinstance?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...

this thread is so hilariously stupid ... that it MUST be revived!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 7 February 2004 07:42 (twenty years ago) link

[[grimaces]] really?

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Saturday, 7 February 2004 08:23 (twenty years ago) link

Long live real music played by real people!!!!
Long live Milli Vanilli.

― nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 7 February 2004 08:36 (twenty years ago) link

Long live Milli Vanilli.

Well Milli at least

― mentalist (mentalist), Saturday, 7 February 2004 10:06 (twenty years ago) link

Is it my imagination or were the very earliest forms of music entirely rhythmic, making rhythmic music more "real" than melodic music?

No, I don't think it is my imagination...

― Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 7 February 2004 10:13 (twenty years ago) link

Do you have any recorded examples of the earliest forms of music, Stupid?

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Saturday, 7 February 2004 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

Only death is real

― Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Saturday, 7 February 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

How do you know that until you've experienced it?

― dave q, Saturday, 7 February 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

Only cheese is real

I *have* experienced it

― omg, Saturday, 7 February 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

Voice: "I used to dream about this when I was a little boy, never thought it would end up this way.....DRUMS!"
Drums: "Bop-shh-bopbop-shh...." etc

So voice came first.

― Nick H (Nick H), Saturday, 7 February 2004 16:08 (twenty years ago) link

I for one would like to hear Geir's unique take on grime.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 7 February 2004 16:41 (twenty years ago) link

It would be most melodic.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 February 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

Ned that would make a cool catchphrase eg "How was your morning?"
"It was most melodic, thank you" or "How do you find those new trousers you bought" "Very unmelodic unfortunately, too tight around the hips" etc.

― pete s, Saturday, 7 February 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link

Haha! Yay new memes!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 February 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago) link

U R ALL UNMELODIC

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 7 February 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...

Try as it may to convince us otherwise, rap is a silly thing. So much so that it becomes self-defeating, too: rappers swagger and boast, strutting like peacocks as they spin fantastical yarns and spend countless hours in comical self agrandizement so farcical you'd have to be a suburban adolescent to swallow it all. And all this in the name of realness.

(Brainwashed.com on DangerDoom

― Yawn (Wintermute), Sunday, 18 December 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Inevitably, the record will collect sneers: it's just too silly or childish to be a rap record. Those who get the irony—like the surprising guest MCs Talib Kweli and Ghostface Killa—will know the truth: Danger Doom's just old school like that, and the most laughable rappers are still on BET's 106 and Park.

― gear (gear), Sunday, 18 December 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, I knew that sounded familiar:

http://groups.google.com/groups?client=safari&rls=en&q=A%20good%20old-fashioned%20tune%20never%20goes%20out%20of%20fashion.&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wg

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 18 December 2005 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

In retrospect, we sll had some points but nobody was 100% right.

Melody did return. But hip-hop sure didn't die. And if techno/dance may have died to some extent in the 00s (plus it got more melodic), it sure came back with a bang in the form of EDM.

In the age of retro, everything goes round in circles.

― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

:-)

― Vape Store (crüt), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

hi geir!

how do you feel about rap becoming more melodic now?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link

[faint sound of 'Mr Blue Sky' can be heard in the distance] by gahd... is that... is that Geir's music?

― wot's the tea mum? (not beef again) (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link

You poll a Genesis album's tracks, you pull the wooden stake from out of Geir's heart.

― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

Actuslly, yes, modern rap is often more melodic and also based upon originally composed material.

― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link

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