true, but it also rocks
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 00:48 (eight years ago) link
"Elite" blew my mind when I first heard it (at 13 or so), easily the most intense thing I'd ever heard up to that point. I almost couldn't even deal with it at first.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2016 01:19 (eight years ago) link
wait wait back up
is "Rodleen Getsic" her real name?
― example (crüt), Friday, 5 February 2016 01:27 (eight years ago) link
since this is the hopping Deftones thread right now just gonna leave this here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=JAmt6zN9vOk&app=desktop
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2016 03:04 (eight years ago) link
it's amazing
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 03:05 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I dig it! Sounds like a nice serpentine opener.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2016 03:10 (eight years ago) link
oh hey pfork covered this without snark, I guess it's time for their long overdue about-face on them
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2016 03:13 (eight years ago) link
lol I forgot that between the alternate covers of this album, they paid specific and extremely geeky tribute to two different Hum albums
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2016 03:53 (eight years ago) link
hey waitaminute saturday night wrist definitely includes a track where chino plays lead guitar and stephen carpenter plays drums
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 06:31 (eight years ago) link
anyway i think it's hard to reduce their process to "chino adds vocals later" though that was probably the process for the new record as chino was in like five side projects over the past three years
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 06:45 (eight years ago) link
yeah not sure what the timeline was there
In any case I find the relationship between the vox and the instrumentals fascinating and 100% unique
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link
In terms of pure recording order, everything I've recorded (and everything that was't just a recorded studio jam) has always been rhythm section -> guitar/keys -> vocals so this doesn't seem all that unique to me, unless the songwriting process is actually to create a fully-formed instrumental that a vocal melody is composed and put on top of without any tweaking/reordering/rewriting of the instrumental.
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 5 February 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link
'Street Carp'
Unsure as to whether this is the "peak" of "nu-metal", though. For me personally that accolade goes to System of a Down's Toxicity.
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Friday, 5 February 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link
that could be a whole other poll...
I love(d?) SOaD too, though having Serj actually appear on a Deftones track ("Mein") turned out to be a bit of a failed experiment imo. Their worlds are too different.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link
lol what poll choices would one even include for a "peak of nu metal" poll
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link
lol I meant for just those two options
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link
well if i were doing it seriously then
sepultura: rootskorn: korndeftones: white ponysystem of a down: toxicityincubus: make yourselfslipknot: iowaevanescence: fallen?disturbed: believe?linkin park: meteora?dir en grey: uroboros?chevelle: wonder what's next?vanilla ice: hard to swallow
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link
ugh can't believe i forgot significant other
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link
Hmm. Unsure as to whether Incubus could be considered "nu-metal"...
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
have you heard s.c.i.e.n.c.e.? they absolutely were
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
Septultura: Roots]Korn: KornDeftones: White PonySystem of a Down: ToxicitySlipknot: Slipknot
^ Certainly these.
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link
i hate at least half of the first slipknot record. iowa is 100000x better
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link
xpost:
I've heard them all up to Morning View, Brad, and my ears haven't forgiven me since as a result.
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link
lol
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:27 (eight years ago) link
i mean incubus were a false faith no more there for a while, kinda think that qualifies a band for nu-metal status
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:28 (eight years ago) link
yeah that incubus album should be in there for sure.
― Spottie, Friday, 5 February 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link
really recommend that dir en grey album to anybody who enjoys both white pony and toxicity
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link
never heard of them. will check it.
― Spottie, Friday, 5 February 2016 19:48 (eight years ago) link
i hate at least half of the first slipknot record. iowa is 100000x better― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, February 5, 2016 7:24 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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I agree, Iowa is a better record than the self-titled release, but the self-titled release had far more commercial impact.
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:49 (eight years ago) link
well by peak i'm not necessarily talking about sales but that elusive artistic quality thing
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:50 (eight years ago) link
Thanks to this thread I went and listened to this album for the first time in at least 12 years. I was way into it from roughly ages 11-13, thanks to my older brother (from whom I got basically all musical knowledge at the time). In retrospect it may have had a bigger influence on the kind of punk/post-punk/indie music I got into subsequently than I ever realized.
Anyway, it's going to be "Digital Bath" for me. Great song, awesome drumming.
― JRN, Friday, 5 February 2016 23:32 (eight years ago) link
Also, even though the band apparently hated it and recorded it begrudgingly, I'm grateful for "Back to School". My brother and I were into Limp Bizkit, Korn, and RATM around this time, and without that song we probably would have never heard White Pony. There really couldn't have been a more perfect gateway.
― JRN, Friday, 5 February 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link
"Back to School" is super fun. It would have made a fine Track 2. Just don't like it as an opener when contrasted to "Feiticeira."
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 6 February 2016 00:32 (eight years ago) link
I think it works great as an opener, but then I've never heard the album any other way.
― JRN, Saturday, 6 February 2016 01:14 (eight years ago) link
fuck "back to school" tbh
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 February 2016 01:16 (eight years ago) link
I can't bring myself to dislike it. The rap verses do make me cringe a little, and they stick out like a sore thumb in the context of the rest of the album. But everything else about it works for me.
― JRN, Saturday, 6 February 2016 01:33 (eight years ago) link
I remember how appalled I was when I heard 'Back To School' for the first time, because when White Pony first came out I remember hearing 'Pink Maggit' and thinking "man, that's actually one hell of a catchy melody, they should go all-out and release that as a single", but then when I heard 'Back To School' and what they'd done with it, I was all like "oh, for fucks sake, what have you done?" ... I always thought they should have just put out 'Pink Maggit' as it was and be done with it.
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Saturday, 6 February 2016 01:38 (eight years ago) link
That was nothing compared to when I fucking saw the video, mind.
the video is hilarious
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 6 February 2016 01:54 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r5_qKDBIv4
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 6 February 2016 04:05 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 15 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
aw that's weird, two of the best songs got no votes
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 00:19 (eight years ago) link
genuinely surprised that "digital bath" didn't take this though, which is kinda nice
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 00:20 (eight years ago) link
So this video had taught me 2 things.
https://youtu.be/0SRd3xhLnMU
1. Hayley Williams needs to do a metal album ASAP.2. I might finally be ready to appreciate the Deftones beyond Adrenaline (the only album of theirs that I like but wow what an album).
― Chard Michaels (Leee), Sunday, 18 February 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link
https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/music/2020/6/17/21293057/oral-history-deftones-white-pony-20th-anniversary
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, February 5, 2016 12:24 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink
man, this is a corny old opinion of mine. slipknot s/t loses momentum in the second half but so much of it is great
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
Terry Date, producer: I didn’t want them to feel stifled by one person. I wanted to make sure that if they go in a different direction with someone else, I’d be happy with that. It was a conversation [Soundgarden singer/guitarist] Chris Cornell and I had once or twice. [Cornell] didn’t think it was healthy for a band to work with the same person too much.Cunningham: We did meet with Jerry Harrison from Talking Heads, and Rick Rubin. Rick would come out to our shows over the years, but he would just call us “The Tones,” you know, because he had that whole funeral thing for the word “def.” He wouldn’t say the word “def.”
Cunningham: We did meet with Jerry Harrison from Talking Heads, and Rick Rubin. Rick would come out to our shows over the years, but he would just call us “The Tones,” you know, because he had that whole funeral thing for the word “def.” He wouldn’t say the word “def.”
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link
the more I read about Rick Rubin the more he seems like the most annoying person alive
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
so basically, bullet dodged
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link