Alex Chilton S&D

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Wow, this edition is apparently really rare. I wonder what I could get for it.

WmC, Friday, 10 April 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, 1970 is good, he's trying out different things like country rock, funk, almost bubblegum-y ballads

velko, Friday, 10 April 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

fuck the "Jumpin' Jack Flash" on 1970 is tight. The drum sound in particular is amazing, as you'd expect from a Terry Manning production, as is the bass. And Chilton's lead guitar mines the song's implicit funk, brings it forth. The vocal is good and hoarse too but the rhythm section sells this one.

Euler, Saturday, 3 October 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

kinda cool
Ray Davies , whose new album See My Friends contains special contributions from artists like Billy Corgan and Bruce Springsteen, recently talked about working with Alex Chilton. The Big Star icon died earlier this year, but he recorded “Till the End of the Day” with Ray Davies before he became sick.

Speaking to ClashMusic, Ray Davies elaborates on the collaboration: “Way back in 2004 I was in New Orleans, recovering from an injury, and I was befriended by a neighbor called Alex Chilton. Alex had been in a band called Big Star, and had sung on a record called ‘The Letter’ by The Box Tops. We didn’t talk about music much, but he did say to me before I came back to England, ‘You know, I’ve recorded one of your songs, ‘Till the End of the Day’, with Big Star, and I’d love to do another song with you. And he asked me to write some songs for him – I felt really flattered, because by then I had found out about his history. A very unassuming guy.”

Then, in 2009, Chilton and Davies did indeed get together to record. Davies recalls: “In 2009, on July 4th, Independence Day, he came up to Konk Studios. He was a real character – he was wearing a New Orleans beret, he had a cigarette holder, he was a chain smoker, and I think a recovering drinker – and he said, ‘Let’s do it!’ I said, ‘What would you like to do?’ He said, ‘Till the End of the Day’ and ‘Set Me Free.’ So I just had an acoustic guitar and a rhythm box, because I hadn’t organized anything. I played guitar and Alex sang.”

tylerw, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.gibson.com/Files/aaFeaturesImages2010/ray-davies_see-my-friends.jpg
artists listed on the cover of this tribute makes it look fucking horrible

tylerw, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.empsfm.org/education/index.asp?categoryID=26&ccID=127&xPopConfBioID=1436&year=2011

Wish I could make it to Los Angeles and hear this Holly George-Warren presentation on Alex Chilton at the February 2010 EMP Pop conference

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

She's writing a bio of him that is scheduled for a 2012 release.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

ooh that does look good. interesting that there's a bio in the works. would read.

tylerw, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

thought i'd bumped one of the AC threads to say this a while back but either way, damn, cliches still sounds exquisite to me

and my soul said you can't go there (schlump), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

I picked up Cliches in a used cd shop last year and still haven't gotten around to it. This week!

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

would be really interested to hear from anyone else who likes/hates it etc, i'd never heard anything about it before hearing it. it's a really good showcase for his guitar playing, &c, but it's also just such a satisfying fit for him, knowing how into the standards he was, & how much working in that sorta context was what he was drawn to, eg playing with pick-up groups etc.

and my soul said you can't go there (schlump), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

It makes me feel great listening to it, his guitar is so enveloping.

Also note the Box Tops reunion album is surprisingly alright, with a few of the tracks absolutely essential for AC fans.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

Cliches is really great, I wish there were five more Chilton albums like it. OTM about his guitar, he was such a fun player.
haven't heard the box tops reunion album! which songs are the good ones?

tylerw, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

"Flying Saucers Rock'n'Roll", "Wang Dang Doodle" and "Little Latin Lupe Lu" are my faves. All covers, I believe, but then few can choose covers and make them their own like Alex.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

cool, i'll check it out.
listening to cliches right now, you can really tell how much chilton loved these songs. sometimes his covers sound kinda jaded (guess i'm thinking of Set/Loose Shoes), but this one just overflows with warmth/affection. his friendliest record?

tylerw, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

Set/Loose Shoes

No, that's the one irredeemable album he ever released, as far as I'm concerned. Beyond tossed off, really embarrassing when you think about how much raw talent he's got.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

i like some of the stuff on Set, but it definitely just keeps going downhill as the album progresses. it's too bad, because the material itself is great, and I can imagine alex doing far better versions of those songs.

tylerw, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

Picked up that new 1970 sessions disc over lunch, excited to dig in.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

I have an earlier reissue, pfork review raised some things that struck me as odd - like complaining about a "rave-up" at the end of "Every Day As We Grow Closer"...? that must have been tacked on, I'm guessing? cuz there's no such rave-up on my copy

locally sourced stabbage (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

in general it's like half a great album imho

locally sourced stabbage (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Well, even half a great album means more good Chilton in my life.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

I remember coming across a 45" of Teenage Fanclub covering "Free Again" in the early 90s and being really frustrated that I couldn't find the original. just took 20 years lol.

locally sourced stabbage (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

free again, although a diff version, was available on an alex chilton comp that came out in the 90s. it's from roughly the same era as the 1970 version i think

buzza, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

19 years: a collection it was called. came out in 1991

buzza, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

hm yeah, can anyone report back as to what the differences between this and the earlier 1970 album are? if you've got that, do you need the new one?

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

From what I can tell from the tracklists alone, subtract "Funk National" from 1970 and add the following new tracks:

13. All We Ever Got From Them Was Pain
14. I Want You To Have My Babies
15. Another Place, Another Time And You
16. Every Day As We Grow Closer (Original Mono Mix)
17. The EMI Song (Smile For Me) (Original Mono Mix)
18. Free Again (Original Mono Mix)
19. Come On Honey (Original Mono Mix)
20. All I Really Want Is Money (Original Mono Mix)
21. I Wish I Could Meet Elvis (Original Mono Mix)
22. The Happy Song (Original Mono Mix)

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

"Funky National"

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

oh cool that Another Place, Another Time And You is being put out officially -- it's on a big star bootleg, always wondered why it wasn't on the recent box set. guess it was more of a chilton solo thing. an instrumental, verrrrry pretty.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

listened to Free Again this morning -- really a nice collection of songs. Think I prefer the 1970 sequencing, but that might be because I'm more used to it. shocking that these tracks remained unreleased for so long -- to my ears there are at least three or four hit songs. amazing that some record exec didn't hear them and want to put 'em out. no idea if they were shopped around extensively or what. obviously chilton was trying out a wide range of styles, but i can imagine a lot of these becoming radio staples in the early 70s, even more so than his big star tunes.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

which songs are you talking about?

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

the hits? Every Day As We Grow Closer, The EMI Song (Smile For Me), Free Again ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

http://hasitleaked.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/artworks-000054834936-lp94sw-t500x500.jpg

On the night of February 13, 1997 Alex Chilton and his band were getting ready to play their second set of the night at the Knitting Factory in New York City when the lights went out. What happened was this album, a spontaneous off the cuff performance. This is Alex thinking on his feet, in the moment, bouncing songs and ideas off the folks that stuck around for a real one-of-a-kind exchange. This is as close and personal as it gets. Much of the material will be new to even hard core fans, there's Johnny Cash to the Beach Boys.--Amazon Release: Oct.8

1. Last Bouquet 2:44
2. Step Right This Way 2:50
3. Let's Get Lost 2:20
4. D-I-V-O-R-C-E 1:40
5. Raining In My Heart 3:14
6. Lovesick Blues 2:33
7. Girl From Ipanema 3:15
8. My Baby Just Cares For Me 3:49
9. Motel Blues 3:08
10. Someone To Watch Over Me 1:35
11. Footprints In The Snow 2:49
12. A Case Of You 2:02
13. Wouldn't It Be Nice 2:57
14. Surfer Girl 1:59
15. Solar System 2:50
16. I Walk The Line 2:05
17. If I Had A Hammer 2:56
18. You Can Beat Your Heart On Me 2:51

dow, Monday, 7 October 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

looove his take on my baby just cares for me. let's get lost too.

schlump, Monday, 7 October 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link

Have you heard this whole set? How's the rest?

dow, Monday, 7 October 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

Pretty sure this set surfaced on Dime A Dozen a while back. Loose & fun pretty much covers it. Will undoubtedly buy the official version, but must dig the CDr out & see if the missed anything off.

Wandering Boy Poet, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 12:21 (ten years ago) link

whole thing is great, and yeah, the tape has floated around for a while -- i think pretty much everything is there on this official release (they may have snipped some dead air). totally a fun listen, though it kinda seems like a weird thing to release. would chilton have approved it had he been alive?

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link

There has been quite a bit of Big Star-related activity since his death which I'm unsure he would have been that keen on

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link

yeah... then again, he might've just thought it was funny that he was getting paid for an audience tape made in 1997.

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

My understanding is it is released as a deliberate counterpoint to the Big Star stuff, trying to show more of what Chilton as a solo performer could be like. The Lovesick Blues version is particularly great.

Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link

I'll check it out, thanks yall. Gonna try posting the cover again (AC doing his best Ray Davies)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51n8asTjzZL.jpg

dow, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

lol at Ray Davies

Gallucci Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link

Just put this on. Not familiar with "Last Bouquet" but from the sound of it I'd guess it was a Kitty Wells number.

Gallucci Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link

Just posted this on the Tav Falco thread, never seen Alex's hair so short:

talv falco & his panther burns, killer awesome fuckin choice or what

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 October 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Noticed in the EMP participants bios that her book is due next month:

Holly George-Warren is the author of the forthcoming biography of Alex Chilton, A Man Called Destruction (Viking, April 2014)

curmudgeon, Friday, 7 March 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link

hope it's good!

tylerw, Friday, 7 March 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link

Yall all know about Tyler's AC/Big Star re-posts, rat? On http://www.doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com

Here's a bit of HGW's bio:
http://www.spin.com/articles/read-an-excerpt-from-alex-chilton-biography-a-man-called-destruction/

dow, Friday, 21 March 2014 14:46 (ten years ago) link

Steve Danzinger's pretty frustrated by the bio in this weekend's WSJ (overall, he conveys the appeal and struggles of Big Star pretty well):

Somewhere in "A Man Called Destruction" is a story about the mysteries of creativity, collaboration and luck, the agonizing loss of wasted potential, the multitude of factors that must align for artistic success. But potential insights are obstructed by minutiae and redundancies, investigations supplanted by undeveloped allusions about Chilton's resentments. The missed opportunity is substantial; even the trifles portray early 1970s Memphis as a singular world of musically precocious, emotionally fragile man-children struggling to attain some state of grace. Ms. George-Warren gives a glimpse of that lost world, but it remains largely unexplored.

So does Chilton. By 25, he was barely more than impish grin, inclined more to nullity than destruction. He urinated off one stage, was fellated on another. He sat on curbs watching Catholic-school girls go by, prospecting for dates. He smoked pot and drifted through his days like a sixth-year undergrad who doesn't want to leave the dorms. He laughed his way through shambling performances, as if he couldn't believe his acolytes were taking him seriously. These post-Big Star years reek of disdain, not least toward the fans who laughed awkwardly along with him, as if to convince themselves there was actually a joke to witness, rather than the remnants of a great talent.

It's a petty, dismal litany, seemingly endless in Ms. George-Warren's lethargic telling. But in life, it was mercifully brief, and Chilton's life would end positively, if more in resignation than redemption. At 31, he quit drinking, moved to New Orleans and lived contentedly, working at jobs like tree trimmer and "human jukebox," playing requests in a tourist bar. Big Star reissues inspired an international cult ("influenced R.E.M." became the general Big Star legitimizer, and the Replacements' 1987 tribute "Alex Chilton" made him famous for being loved by the Replacements). There would be new records, like Feudalist Tarts from 1985, a gritty return to form with covers of songs by Isaac Hayes, Slim Harpo and Willie Tee, residuals and reunions and the comparative triumph of replacing self-mockery with nonchalance.

Chilton died in 2010 of a heart attack, aged 59. To the end, he claimed not to understand the fuss about Big Star. After "A Man Called Destruction," readers might not, either... Ooh! But the anecdotal material seems like it might be interesting, at least judging by his glosses.

dow, Saturday, 22 March 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...
eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-eVsH49_2U
video footage by william eggleston

drash, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

Weightless guitar, Reggie Young meets Hendrix meets Mick Ronson and goes out for a grilled cheese sandwich. Pretty much how I remember his guitar playing when he was in a good mood and on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcZk3PYeTkk

Edd Hurt (whatstalker), Monday, 3 January 2022 19:16 (two years ago) link

Wow, thanks! Also,
...exemplary blues-rock guitar 101, chugging along as the rhythmic pulse and one slangy lick that anchors the turnaround, the psychology of which he totally respects even as the "solo" careers almost out of the picture, like Richard Lloyd in Tops Barbeque in Memphis. Take it down into your own thang, son, and don't forget the sauce while you're down here with us is pretty much my impression of how he fit (esp. instrumentally: vocals are also respectful enough, while slightly campy, w/o irony [of lol what am I goofy white pop-rock boy doing here] getting too underlined) w Hi Rhythm on the xpost live one-off (I'm assuming it's that, but hope he did perform with them again at some point, recorded or not).

dow, Monday, 3 January 2022 19:18 (two years ago) link

Alex had never met the Hi players in toto, except for Charles Hodges, who played on one track on Man Called Destruction, and never played with 'em again.

Edd Hurt (whatstalker), Monday, 3 January 2022 19:25 (two years ago) link

Did you note the "(Theme From) A Summer Place" quotation solo at the end of the first song on that video?

(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Razor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 3 January 2022 19:45 (two years ago) link

Excuse the typos. Alex also was actually literate, so I guess I need to be more careful. Also, I think the bio by George-Warren is very flawed. There's not one bit about his style or approach in a practical sense. No discussion of how he got his guitar sound. Very light on his last decade. Alex needed a very tough person who was also a discerning ear to how musicians achieve their effects, which she's just too travails-of-thwarted-star to bother with. I actually can't think of one piece or book that gets him. I've read just about every interview ever done with him and listened to every interview I can find. From that you begin to get the picture. Alex was both a synoptic student of pop and rock and a guy who actually contributed to it, fundamentally at a Sun Records level. Which is completely singular.

Edd, judging from the most recent thread revive, I think you are the one to write the book on LX.

Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Monday, 3 January 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link

Or if that's too stressful maybe we can have you hypnotized like the guy in PKD's Time Out of Joint so that you can write the book while you think you are doing something else.

(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Razor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 3 January 2022 19:51 (two years ago) link

Just was moved through the ILX pachinko game from the Doris Day to the Terry Melcher thread, which led me to listen to his jaw-dropping Is It Tone Deaf Or Genius? take on “Stagger Lee” which somehow reminded me of Alex’s approach.

(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Razor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 3 January 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Edd is now one of the lobes (along with ov mastermynd---Dickinson-Chilton-inspired---thee spirit and letter, incl. covers ov "Bangkok" and "Take Me Home and Make Me Like It," also a dystopian vision of Spooner and Karen Oldham----It Came From Nashville: https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0267189080_10.jpg

In late 2020, after figuring out that the only thing I wanted to do musically was a kind of cabaret-style retrospect of some great songs I thought other people ought to know about, I assembled a group of Nashville musicians at Sundog Recording Studio with engineer and producer Michael Esser. We recorded six songs drawn from the mists of the 1970s, and added one instrumental I wrote myself. We cut with almost no rehearsal, and trusted to the unguarded moment to guide us in our reconstructions of these timeless tunes.
...Fayetteville, Paris, Nashville, Memphis, man, it's all the same on this record.

https://thecontactgroup1.bandcamp.com/album/varnished-suffrages
https://thecontactgroup1.bandcamp.com/album/varnished-suffrages

dow, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link

Sorry, I meant (along with *Michael Esser*)

dow, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link

Also meant *"1980,"* a dystopian vision of Spooner and Karen Oldham.

dow, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:07 (two years ago) link

Nice!

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link

Good production job Edd

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:48 (two years ago) link


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