Are you cool with forks making Spotify playlists out of every rolling thread without permission?

also forks your most recent playlist, linked just above, is some of your best work.

ILM's Rolling David Bowie's Guitarists 2016 Spotify Playlist

xavier mcdaniel.

I'm going to this tomorrow if you wanna come out JR:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?799857🔗

And KING at LPR Friday!

Oh hey, I just realized what this thread might be good for: I've been transferring old audio tapes to spotify. My father (who's a rare record dealer and an ethnomusicologist) made most of these for me when I was a kid. They're important mixes and the sequencing has defined the way I understand the music. That "Elmo Hope" playlist referenced up there is one of those. But the blues and funk and jazz mixes are SO important to me because I was like this as a kid too, so I listened to those C90s front to back a gazillion times and they are burned into my brain forever. I should maybe post links here.

Blues 1
Blues 2
Blues 3
Blues 4

hey matt prick what is your (long standing) problem?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker

thought "Blues 4" playlist would have 50 Eve 6's "Here's to the Night"s

lol, no those are legit.

So denied so I lied, are you the now or never kind?
In a day and a day love I'm gonna be gone for good again
Are you willing to be had? Are you cool with forks tonight?
Here's a toast to all those who hear me all too well

the neat thing about getting your old dubbed tapes into digital format playlists is that you can relive pivotal moments.

like 'Dewey Square' was the first time i consciously remember hearing bird
Charlie Parker

and 'Pee Pee Cluck Cluck' was my first time hearing Toots
Ska and Reggae 1

or all these mixes that my sister mailed to me when she was at school in Memphis and i was working at a library in Murfreesboro killing time in the stacks with my walkman on, wondering what the fuck my life was gonna be, just about to drop out and get a job at the local salvation army. i wish we were closer now but man does this sequencing evoke a fragile time for me.

Jole's Playlist 1
Jole's Playlist 2
Jole's Playlist 3

Or this sterling playlist of Percy Mayfield, Charles Brown, King Pleasure, Eddie Jefferson and Peppermint Harris, which I guarantee you cannot find a bad track on. I've tried!

More Vocal Jazz

uh wow this thread

i for one am completely psyched when forks makes playlists out of the emo thread, it is a delight

if you would like a platform neutral format to check out the songs mentioned in the rolling threads, might i suggest......,,...the rolling threads

also forks see u at king friday

I refused to use Spotify for years because I felt it was part of a general movement against people owning music - my MP3s may not be physical artifacts, but often they are a different version to the one on Spotify, or I edited them, and I'm easily able to make mixes with them. Spotify has a lot of music missing, and sometimes tracks get pulled for no obvious reason.

...but even I think this thread is ridiculous. If you don't like the links then don't click them, problem solved surely?

I don't want to read the whole thing, is this an actually serious thread? Why?

Are we discussing Spotify's evil empire? There's another thread for that.

Leave forks alone

scott williams

mattresslessness is a complete clown, ban him instead. seriously

forks i have no beef with you and ultimately i'm not hugely concerned about issues of ownership around words on the internet but

there is maybe something a shade careless about co-opting people into a private game gone public without some kind of "asking if they're OK with it first" approach. imo

obv tho this is the internet so my moral reservation is tempered with caution, and is coloured by my general antagonism to aggregation of data/transfiguration of cultural product into same

also, a lot of the least helpful posts on this thread have not been from yourself or matt but from people dorkishly refusing to accept that anybody might have qualms about their idea of fun

Co-opting people? Am I co-opting people in the classical thread making my Bach playlist? That makes zero sense.

Yeah I absolutely refuse to accept that creating playlists with artists on a platform where the artists are publically available is offensive to anyone. I'd much rather accept complaints about those offended boarders co-opting artists into their moral grandstanding.

thanks for so lucidly underlining my second point

I do think what you're doing is offensive and you should apologize to forks.

forks i'm sorry for the crazed tirade i just unleashed on you

Wait a sec, I have to put my youtube playlists on private and go around all the internet places where I found music reccomendations the past five years to check if they're ok with me organizing these officially uploaded music videos in a vertical list of links.

t/f: the rap mixtape game on spotify is not strong

t

We have to STOP this enthusiast who's spending hours making the rolling threads more accessible to the people in them.

you are strong spirited

Listening to page after page of illegally uploaded youtube embeds? Great! Music to the people! But a playlist of officially uploaded material? Hang him!

as per rap mixtapes, spotify is.... spotty.
requires some creative exploration and shit disappears randomly.
it's also regularly mislabeled and/or confusingly filed for legal reasons or just out of sheer haphazard cataloguing.
there's dozens of young thug mixtapes for instance but some are labeled as Yung THUGG and plenty show up under the DJs name.
the deep curation is often meh. I've complained about it before but what that service needs imo is regular editors to manage, maintain, recommend and provide greater context than an allmusicguide bio.

nah they need to leave curation up to the users/artists, imo

someone please point me to the spotify playlist for this thread

Why does it make you uncomfortable? He doesn't use your name or any content of posting aside from artists and song titles to make something that everyone can access and listen to if they're interested in the genre.

― emil.y, Thursday, 4 February 2016 01:01 Bookmark

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After all these years of having a strong artist-centric anti-spotify stance, I finally broke down and subscribed to spotify for the first time last month. The primary reason I did it was to access the rolling thread and eoy nom playlists. I've found that it's really good for sampling music for the purpose of deciding that I like it.

My primary time for listening to music is on my commute and youtube embeds or soundcloud links just don't work there. I've spent thousands of dollars on music from iTunes based on 30-second song samples, only to rack up a playcount of 1 for half the tracks and leaving the rest unplayed when I realized that I actually didn't like it. Using spotify, I've been able explore dozens of albums that I thought I would like, but haven't ended up liking at all. And a handful that I'm really really happy with. For the ones I'm really happy with, I'm totally going to buy something from the bands, whether it's a hard copy of their album, a shirt, a concert ticket, etc.

I know this probably isn't how most people use spotify, and that's why it's so bad for artists right now. But that's how I'm using it and it's working well to help me enjoy music I like while saving money on purchases made by errant recommendations/research.

Ethics aside, it's hard to resist something like Spotify.

ethics aside it's hard to resist fill in the blank

i agree it takes actual thinking, though

ok not wanting to be a dick but i'm Not A Fan either. i don't think spotify is ethically sound but it'd be hypocritical of me to hammer that point home so

- up to forks if he wants to do this for himself + i recognise it's handy for many others but it feels so much like ILX Sponsored By Spotify, it's v hard to ignore! especially when there are these regular bot-like bumps which are v disappointing when you click on a thread hoping for discussion or insight

- feel like it's just giving into the anti-rolling thread whingers and allowing them a means to bypass actually engaging with genre threads and their regulars, genre discussions, the nitty-gritty of what's actually changing or going on. analogous to the wider trend of plucking some cool sound you heard on the internet out of its context and then abdicating any need to learn about that context bc "convenience" "spoonfeeding" whatever. none of the rolling threads move especially fast these days and if you have so little interest in house or r&b or afropop or whatever that you can't even bring yourself to read them...i mean it doesn't matter how little you know, i'm a complete novice/dilettante in the afropop thread but the absolute least i can do when i catch up is to post about what i like and why i like it, not scurry off to the safety bubble of a spotify playlist

i just don't get the whole listening to music as science experiment thing, but w/e floats yr boat.. please stay away from the music 'industry', though, please

cue bitter people obsessed with the elusive "gatekeepers" of good hip music or whatever.

well yeah the entire "listening to music as data dump" concept is completely baffling to me and not how i'd ever want to consume music.

I'm a contributing regular in threads where forks has made playlists and I'm eternally thankful someone does the job for me so I can get a feel for what's being discussed across a year and a reminder of tracks i've forgotten, even when I've discussed through most of it myself.

The idea of someone who would potentially contribute to a thread skipping that because of a playlist is to me absurd and I don't believe it's ever applied to anyone.

The moral stance falls short when the threads are basically a playlist itself except heavier to load and one that doesn't give _anything_ back to the artist. At worst a playlist will keep a person from playing these.

The idea of someone who would potentially contribute to a thread skipping that because of a playlist is to me absurd and I don't believe it's ever applied to anyone.

the entire idea was born out of people whinging on EOY threads that they wanted to "keep up" in the vaguest way with various genres but were too "intimidated" to set foot in rolling threads

forks' playlists led me to discover a ton of music I never would have discovered otherwise. I don't get the complaint.

No cunt here ever made a tape I spose

pottery

― iatee, Thursday, 4 February 2016 05:38 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Classic ref btw

i dont do spotify cos i have an archive full of undiscovered gems i need to listen to,
however, i have absolutely no problem with forks, or glenn, doing their thing on ilm.