Are you cool with forks making Spotify playlists out of every rolling thread without permission?

hey so this is a p silly clusterfuck huh

pottery

http://i.imgur.com/KHPIjHf.gif

Make my forks the p-forks

we should go back to just downloading mp3s on napster and talking about those

― carly rae jetson (thomp), Wednesday, February 3, 2016 9:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Gotta get back to the base.

if forks wants to talk about it more, he can shout at me off this, struggin @ gmail

how exportable are their playlists?

would you be open to modifying your project somewhat to include links to bandcamp, discogs, artist websites, youtube? maybe in a platform-neutral format?

I am dead positive that you don't have the slightest idea how much time and effort it takes to read every goddamn post in every goddamn thread and look up every goddamn song and then catalogue every goddamn song and then check back again to see if a new song has been added to the service a month later. And just so I'm entirely clear: your beef is not based on some sort of principled concern but simply that you aren't pleased with the way I am managing a massive, personally motivated and unpaid project? That not only is the soup terrible, but in such small portions? Because seriously, you don't have to give a shit if I do this. That's fine. But you wanna tell me the dance I'm doing that I just made up by myself is wrong?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/a77b23ae0d11eb0a06b7b612f1c26622/tumblr_n02ttfbgEv1t13eyho1_400.gif

is this really about you riding on a community of experts to put yourself in a good light with a certain organization?

As to why I'm using Spotify exclusively, I've answered THAT multiple times (including about ten posts up), but here we go again: it has about an 85% hit ratio; it's a service i personally use (and pay for! in addition to buying music and concert tickets and merch elsewhere!); it's reliable and easy to take on a portable device; it has a less-than-totally janky search engine and a small footprint on my mac (NB: I backtracked to .8.5 and find it prone to crashing but otherwise preferable to the social network bloat it otherwise packs in its current state); it's available internationally so out-of-America ILXors have access; and, crucially, it is available for free on the internet, meaning that it is egalitarian and not class-restricted for the listener! If you can access ILX, you can access spotify and they cost the same! The counterintuitive presumption that I am deep cover astroturfing, even after i have REPEATEDLY avowed that I have no affiliation with the company, is so wrong headed as to be genuinely funny.

my tone about all of this has been so dickish, for which i apologize

i imagine forks will take into account the preferences of the many artists mentioned in these threads who don't like spotify and who make money from other avenues and include some equivalent way of showing support for these artists in his list-making enthusiasm.

i wouldn't mind doing a list for just bobbins with links to youtube, discogs, bandcamp, etc.

http://cdn1.theodysseyonline.com/files/2015/10/15/635805362411119546-1401372307_tumblr_nr7zqaDQjg1roohd8o1_400.gif

I will subscribe and listen! I wish people would grassroots this shit and fill in the blanks and make my project obsolete! It would make me SO HAPPY! But hey, little something for you to think about: when you do finally get around to making that bobbins list, take a moment to think about how it would feel to make that same list... twenty-seven more times. Then update all those lists nonstop for a year. Then, just as you start your second year on this mad sisyphean task, imagine some rando, holier-than-thou motherfucker leans in and starts screaming FUCK YOU SOUNDCLOUD IS MURDER ARTISTS RIGHTS as the first step toward voicing their opinion, then follows that up with a poll asking who gave you permission to do the thing you felt like doing in the first place, then accuses you of being a double agent for The Orchard. Once you've worked through that particular thought exercise, I believe you might understand why I find you, your argument and this thread utterly fucking absurd.

Mordy OTM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvZeYDBY4fw

ILM's Rolling 'Are you cool with forks making Spotify playlists out of every rolling thread without permission?' 2016 Spotify Playlist

Let me go on record as saying that James Redd is cool with forksclovetofu and is slightly disappointed that he has yet to cross paths with him at some musical event in NYC. As far as the rolling playlists, I briefly looked at a few related to threads I participated on and found it a really interesting and useful exercise to try to pair up the tunes with the posts and think about how much I forgot or misread.

I'm going to this tomorrow if you wanna come out JR:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?799857

And KING at LPR Friday!

forks can you please make a separate playlist for each David Bowie guitarist. thanking you in advance.

oh shit, i wanna see KING!

also forks your most recent playlist, linked just above, is some of your best work.

ILM's Rolling David Bowie's Guitarists 2016 Spotify Playlist

xavier mcdaniel.

I'm going to this tomorrow if you wanna come out JR:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?799857🔗

And KING at LPR Friday!

Oh hey, I just realized what this thread might be good for: I've been transferring old audio tapes to spotify. My father (who's a rare record dealer and an ethnomusicologist) made most of these for me when I was a kid. They're important mixes and the sequencing has defined the way I understand the music. That "Elmo Hope" playlist referenced up there is one of those. But the blues and funk and jazz mixes are SO important to me because I was like this as a kid too, so I listened to those C90s front to back a gazillion times and they are burned into my brain forever. I should maybe post links here.

Blues 1
Blues 2
Blues 3
Blues 4

hey matt prick what is your (long standing) problem?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker

thought "Blues 4" playlist would have 50 Eve 6's "Here's to the Night"s

lol, no those are legit.

So denied so I lied, are you the now or never kind?
In a day and a day love I'm gonna be gone for good again
Are you willing to be had? Are you cool with forks tonight?
Here's a toast to all those who hear me all too well

the neat thing about getting your old dubbed tapes into digital format playlists is that you can relive pivotal moments.

like 'Dewey Square' was the first time i consciously remember hearing bird
Charlie Parker

and 'Pee Pee Cluck Cluck' was my first time hearing Toots
Ska and Reggae 1

or all these mixes that my sister mailed to me when she was at school in Memphis and i was working at a library in Murfreesboro killing time in the stacks with my walkman on, wondering what the fuck my life was gonna be, just about to drop out and get a job at the local salvation army. i wish we were closer now but man does this sequencing evoke a fragile time for me.

Jole's Playlist 1
Jole's Playlist 2
Jole's Playlist 3

Or this sterling playlist of Percy Mayfield, Charles Brown, King Pleasure, Eddie Jefferson and Peppermint Harris, which I guarantee you cannot find a bad track on. I've tried!

More Vocal Jazz

uh wow this thread

i for one am completely psyched when forks makes playlists out of the emo thread, it is a delight

if you would like a platform neutral format to check out the songs mentioned in the rolling threads, might i suggest......,,...the rolling threads

also forks see u at king friday

I refused to use Spotify for years because I felt it was part of a general movement against people owning music - my MP3s may not be physical artifacts, but often they are a different version to the one on Spotify, or I edited them, and I'm easily able to make mixes with them. Spotify has a lot of music missing, and sometimes tracks get pulled for no obvious reason.

...but even I think this thread is ridiculous. If you don't like the links then don't click them, problem solved surely?

I don't want to read the whole thing, is this an actually serious thread? Why?

Are we discussing Spotify's evil empire? There's another thread for that.

Leave forks alone

scott williams

mattresslessness is a complete clown, ban him instead. seriously

forks i have no beef with you and ultimately i'm not hugely concerned about issues of ownership around words on the internet but

there is maybe something a shade careless about co-opting people into a private game gone public without some kind of "asking if they're OK with it first" approach. imo

obv tho this is the internet so my moral reservation is tempered with caution, and is coloured by my general antagonism to aggregation of data/transfiguration of cultural product into same

also, a lot of the least helpful posts on this thread have not been from yourself or matt but from people dorkishly refusing to accept that anybody might have qualms about their idea of fun

Co-opting people? Am I co-opting people in the classical thread making my Bach playlist? That makes zero sense.

Yeah I absolutely refuse to accept that creating playlists with artists on a platform where the artists are publically available is offensive to anyone. I'd much rather accept complaints about those offended boarders co-opting artists into their moral grandstanding.

thanks for so lucidly underlining my second point

I do think what you're doing is offensive and you should apologize to forks.

forks i'm sorry for the crazed tirade i just unleashed on you

Wait a sec, I have to put my youtube playlists on private and go around all the internet places where I found music reccomendations the past five years to check if they're ok with me organizing these officially uploaded music videos in a vertical list of links.

t/f: the rap mixtape game on spotify is not strong

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We have to STOP this enthusiast who's spending hours making the rolling threads more accessible to the people in them.

you are strong spirited

Listening to page after page of illegally uploaded youtube embeds? Great! Music to the people! But a playlist of officially uploaded material? Hang him!

as per rap mixtapes, spotify is.... spotty.
requires some creative exploration and shit disappears randomly.
it's also regularly mislabeled and/or confusingly filed for legal reasons or just out of sheer haphazard cataloguing.
there's dozens of young thug mixtapes for instance but some are labeled as Yung THUGG and plenty show up under the DJs name.
the deep curation is often meh. I've complained about it before but what that service needs imo is regular editors to manage, maintain, recommend and provide greater context than an allmusicguide bio.

nah they need to leave curation up to the users/artists, imo

someone please point me to the spotify playlist for this thread

Why does it make you uncomfortable? He doesn't use your name or any content of posting aside from artists and song titles to make something that everyone can access and listen to if they're interested in the genre.

― emil.y, Thursday, 4 February 2016 01:01 Bookmark

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After all these years of having a strong artist-centric anti-spotify stance, I finally broke down and subscribed to spotify for the first time last month. The primary reason I did it was to access the rolling thread and eoy nom playlists. I've found that it's really good for sampling music for the purpose of deciding that I like it.

My primary time for listening to music is on my commute and youtube embeds or soundcloud links just don't work there. I've spent thousands of dollars on music from iTunes based on 30-second song samples, only to rack up a playcount of 1 for half the tracks and leaving the rest unplayed when I realized that I actually didn't like it. Using spotify, I've been able explore dozens of albums that I thought I would like, but haven't ended up liking at all. And a handful that I'm really really happy with. For the ones I'm really happy with, I'm totally going to buy something from the bands, whether it's a hard copy of their album, a shirt, a concert ticket, etc.

I know this probably isn't how most people use spotify, and that's why it's so bad for artists right now. But that's how I'm using it and it's working well to help me enjoy music I like while saving money on purchases made by errant recommendations/research.