Are you cool with forks making Spotify playlists out of every rolling thread without permission?

"check out our new curated playlists, What's Next In Fruity Swag Goon Music 2016 - EDITOR'S PICKS!!!" ...?

They do do this fwiw. See my last post on the Spotify thread re: stealing my friends' online radio station playlists.

ps i miss forks' scare quotes (not scare quotes) comedy title edits

I'm cool with enthusiasm.

i don't use spotify and i don't mind forks making playlists, but i would be bummed if mattress stopped posting on bobbins threads

If you wanna trash spotify, fine, but don't trash forks.

Just for the record, that is exactly what I've been doing. I don't know forks but I enjoy his posts and will concede that he's made some good points / offered some food for thought wrt Spotify and its place here on ILX

is this really about you riding on a community of experts to put yourself in a good light with a certain organization? because that's sure what it looks like.

This literally has never ever crossed my mind as being a thing that forks' project could possibly look like. What it looks like is a music dork obsessively compiling lists, and then being nice and sharing them with people.

or is this really about you riding on a community of experts to put yourself in a good light with a certain organization? because that's sure what it looks like.

I know that you specified "...to me" afterwards, but I want to foreground it, because I've worked in the music business for 20 years and I cannot imagine viewing forks's project in this light, nor can I imagine anyone I know coming to any comparable conclusion

Incredibly stupid thread. Fuck off. The playlists are cool. Private message each other. Christ.

Lol "experts"

i'm all for enthusiasm and big projects too. but when that gets used as a tactic to shut down legitimate concerns.. i have to admit that's a pet peeve of mine. since this is such a selfless project, i imagine forks will take into account the preferences of the many artists mentioned in these threads who don't like spotify and who make money from other avenues and include some equivalent way of showing support for these artists in his list-making enthusiasm.

xp to emil.y and joan, fair enough.

Mod Request: please move this thread to Ask Dr. Freud.

Incredibly stupid thread. Fuck off. The playlists are cool. Private message each other. Christ.

lol this is one of his better ones

the rolling threads should be paywalled with proceeds going to the experts, who may or may not choose to share with the artists extolled therein

god you're a fucking lowlife, go back to bed

Okay, just expunged some of the weird mojo of this thread by following some of forks other playlists, in particular Meet Elmo Hope.

this is an open community with experts in it (i never claimed to be one of them ffs). i'd hate to see it linked to one company out of hand. i care about the bobbins thread and i want more exposure for those artists (i'm under no illusion that some doofus on a message board has an appreciable amount of influence, but why not be enthusiastic about it and do it in a way you think will benefit someone the most?). i wouldn't mind doing a list for just bobbins with links to youtube, discogs, bandcamp, etc. it would probably make more sense anyway because a fair amount of those people release on vinyl only. if forks wants to talk about it more, he can shout at me off this, struggin @ gmail.

i voted no bc the project seems a little compulsive and forks has discussed it using those v words and maybe it would be liberating to be freed from the self-imposed obligation w/ a majority of 'no' votes

xp i could also put in links to whatever spotify playlist forks wants to make so it's not like a turf thing, just equal opportunity consumption. that's really my issue i guess, artists or listeners who choose not to use spotify are left out. there's the chance to do something that supplements this project (and i'm realizing it isn't neccessarily forks' responsibility to do it). i started this off in a counterproductive way as per usual, hope i can still talk to forks about doing an alternative with the bobbins thread.

we should go back to just downloading mp3s on napster and talking about those

god you're a fucking lowlife, go back to bed

start a poll just to be sure

Haha, what the fuck is this thread for? Seriously this "issue" needs a thread? Forks, I'm fucking honored that you've included my 2016 Indie thread to your playlist. I have no idea of the internal ILM politics of this endeavor. And frankly, I could give two fucks what those politics are. Seriously, please add whatever contributions are given in that thread.

Lol thomp otm

wait hold the presses an indie fan doesn't care about politics

100% added value to each thread when there is an associated playlist.

i am cool with forks making Spotify playlists out of every rolling thread without permission

start a poll just to be sure

only if forks will make a spotify playlist for it. can put all of New Order's Low Life and "Low Life" by the Police, maybe "Speed of Life" off Low...dunno man just spitballin here. I'm just the ideas guy. don't worry I will post Soundcloud links where applicable.

hey so this is a p silly clusterfuck huh

pottery

http://i.imgur.com/KHPIjHf.gif

Make my forks the p-forks

we should go back to just downloading mp3s on napster and talking about those

― carly rae jetson (thomp), Wednesday, February 3, 2016 9:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Gotta get back to the base.

if forks wants to talk about it more, he can shout at me off this, struggin @ gmail

how exportable are their playlists?

would you be open to modifying your project somewhat to include links to bandcamp, discogs, artist websites, youtube? maybe in a platform-neutral format?

I am dead positive that you don't have the slightest idea how much time and effort it takes to read every goddamn post in every goddamn thread and look up every goddamn song and then catalogue every goddamn song and then check back again to see if a new song has been added to the service a month later. And just so I'm entirely clear: your beef is not based on some sort of principled concern but simply that you aren't pleased with the way I am managing a massive, personally motivated and unpaid project? That not only is the soup terrible, but in such small portions? Because seriously, you don't have to give a shit if I do this. That's fine. But you wanna tell me the dance I'm doing that I just made up by myself is wrong?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/a77b23ae0d11eb0a06b7b612f1c26622/tumblr_n02ttfbgEv1t13eyho1_400.gif

is this really about you riding on a community of experts to put yourself in a good light with a certain organization?

As to why I'm using Spotify exclusively, I've answered THAT multiple times (including about ten posts up), but here we go again: it has about an 85% hit ratio; it's a service i personally use (and pay for! in addition to buying music and concert tickets and merch elsewhere!); it's reliable and easy to take on a portable device; it has a less-than-totally janky search engine and a small footprint on my mac (NB: I backtracked to .8.5 and find it prone to crashing but otherwise preferable to the social network bloat it otherwise packs in its current state); it's available internationally so out-of-America ILXors have access; and, crucially, it is available for free on the internet, meaning that it is egalitarian and not class-restricted for the listener! If you can access ILX, you can access spotify and they cost the same! The counterintuitive presumption that I am deep cover astroturfing, even after i have REPEATEDLY avowed that I have no affiliation with the company, is so wrong headed as to be genuinely funny.

my tone about all of this has been so dickish, for which i apologize

i imagine forks will take into account the preferences of the many artists mentioned in these threads who don't like spotify and who make money from other avenues and include some equivalent way of showing support for these artists in his list-making enthusiasm.

i wouldn't mind doing a list for just bobbins with links to youtube, discogs, bandcamp, etc.

http://cdn1.theodysseyonline.com/files/2015/10/15/635805362411119546-1401372307_tumblr_nr7zqaDQjg1roohd8o1_400.gif

I will subscribe and listen! I wish people would grassroots this shit and fill in the blanks and make my project obsolete! It would make me SO HAPPY! But hey, little something for you to think about: when you do finally get around to making that bobbins list, take a moment to think about how it would feel to make that same list... twenty-seven more times. Then update all those lists nonstop for a year. Then, just as you start your second year on this mad sisyphean task, imagine some rando, holier-than-thou motherfucker leans in and starts screaming FUCK YOU SOUNDCLOUD IS MURDER ARTISTS RIGHTS as the first step toward voicing their opinion, then follows that up with a poll asking who gave you permission to do the thing you felt like doing in the first place, then accuses you of being a double agent for The Orchard. Once you've worked through that particular thought exercise, I believe you might understand why I find you, your argument and this thread utterly fucking absurd.

Mordy OTM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvZeYDBY4fw

ILM's Rolling 'Are you cool with forks making Spotify playlists out of every rolling thread without permission?' 2016 Spotify Playlist

Let me go on record as saying that James Redd is cool with forksclovetofu and is slightly disappointed that he has yet to cross paths with him at some musical event in NYC. As far as the rolling playlists, I briefly looked at a few related to threads I participated on and found it a really interesting and useful exercise to try to pair up the tunes with the posts and think about how much I forgot or misread.

I'm going to this tomorrow if you wanna come out JR:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?799857

And KING at LPR Friday!

forks can you please make a separate playlist for each David Bowie guitarist. thanking you in advance.

oh shit, i wanna see KING!

also forks your most recent playlist, linked just above, is some of your best work.

ILM's Rolling David Bowie's Guitarists 2016 Spotify Playlist

xavier mcdaniel.

I'm going to this tomorrow if you wanna come out JR:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?799857🔗

And KING at LPR Friday!

Oh hey, I just realized what this thread might be good for: I've been transferring old audio tapes to spotify. My father (who's a rare record dealer and an ethnomusicologist) made most of these for me when I was a kid. They're important mixes and the sequencing has defined the way I understand the music. That "Elmo Hope" playlist referenced up there is one of those. But the blues and funk and jazz mixes are SO important to me because I was like this as a kid too, so I listened to those C90s front to back a gazillion times and they are burned into my brain forever. I should maybe post links here.

Blues 1
Blues 2
Blues 3
Blues 4

hey matt prick what is your (long standing) problem?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker

thought "Blues 4" playlist would have 50 Eve 6's "Here's to the Night"s

lol, no those are legit.

So denied so I lied, are you the now or never kind?
In a day and a day love I'm gonna be gone for good again
Are you willing to be had? Are you cool with forks tonight?
Here's a toast to all those who hear me all too well

the neat thing about getting your old dubbed tapes into digital format playlists is that you can relive pivotal moments.

like 'Dewey Square' was the first time i consciously remember hearing bird
Charlie Parker

and 'Pee Pee Cluck Cluck' was my first time hearing Toots
Ska and Reggae 1