Jacques Rivette

Jane Birkin did a Q&A after the Jane B par Agnes V screening here last night, and talked a little about Rivette; i didn't know she'd done 3 with him. On her first meeting she was thrown by the lack of a script, and the prospect of doing a 'circus' movie. Then she watched Celine et Julie and phoned Geraldine Chaplin in a panic to see if ahe could get back into JR's good graces.

Hmmm - the circus-themed Rivette is Around a Small Mountain, the third of the three films Birkin and Rivette made together (and, as it turned out, JR's final movie.) It could be that Mountain was an older project revived much later, I suppose (it never got any kind of release in the UK so I've not actually seen it).

Checking his filmog I've seen less than I thought I had. Le Pont du Nord is something I want to see as soon-ish as poss. Got a hunch about that one.

(xxpost) at one point in the 70s he was going to do something called "Carnaval" (sp?) that was also circus themed. Maybe Jane B was referring to an earlier request to work on that project?

"Le Pont du Nord" is fantastic. Paris never felt so threatening.

Yeah, Pont du Nord is another Paris-as-playground one; Duelle also has lots of fantastically empty Parisian locations.

I don't know; it's possible she was confused, or i am.

I've seen Pont du Nord, tho at least ten yerars ago, and ... it didn't work on me. Willing to revisit.

The weirdest thing about Pont du Nord is a sudden non-diagetic burst of Astor Piazolla on the soundtrack

Acid Hose, I think I saw somewhere on ILX that you'd watched the earlier, 'trial run' of Pont du Nord - I take it this was a non-official source (it isn't on the Masters of Cinema Pont du Nord disc)?

"Paris vu par". And yes - non official source most probably.

"Paris Goes Away," the sort, somewhat abstract companion film to Pont du Nord, is also available online: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TiuNS59K8rg

*short, I mean

ty ows, will watch later

whats the deal w the doc claire denis did on him? seems like the perfect time for someone to put that out if its possible wrt to the rights etc

On YT as well ( the doc ).

Yes, thanks ows and ah

RIP. though i always preferred jacques demy. i will never watch out. i dont care how much less of a true card carrying cinephile that makes me.

please tell us more about the other films you're never going to watch

StillAdvance - are you comparing Rivette and Demy just because they are called Jacques (as per the poll you just posted)? Just how fucking dumb can you get.

oh STFU you received-wisdom-parroting dullard

of course they cant really be compared, fucking DUH!

[jingle]Iconoclasm on ILX[/jingle]

Fuck you - stop the contrarian routine first.

im not trying to be 'iconoclastic', i find the over reverence a bit stultifying. rivettes films are treated as a sort of holy entrance exam for a particular kind of film fan.

which posts on this thread about Jacques Rivette are you actually referring to?

im not trying to be 'iconoclastic', i find the over reverence a bit stultifying. rivettes films are treated as a sort of holy entrance exam for a particular kind of film fan.

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I don't fancy your chances when Godard goes over.

I just find JLG more interesting tbh, even at his most indulgent. *shrug* Even something like Un Film comme les autres (which i only saw recently) has a lot going for it, even if visually it isnt exactly riveting to watch, though even then, you have to admire his gall in keeping the camera so still, and never truly revealing his subjects. I should probably try rivette again, but that kind of hip whimsy (combined with the running time!) i saw in celine... makes me not want to. reminds me a little of vera chytilova's daisies, thinking about it now. i might try le pont du nord though, its on mubi at the moment.

Can't you wait at least a couple of fucking weeks to tell us about your tedious contempt for this not-dead-even-a-week artist whose films you haven't seen and who other posters here actually have some affection for?

Un Film comme les autres (which i only saw recently) has a lot going for it, even if visually it isnt exactly riveting to watch, though even then, you have to admire his gall in keeping the camera so still, and never truly revealing his subjects

Saw this too. You can easily all of this about Rivette, i.e. you have to admire Rivette's gall in making a 12.5 hr film/shooting extended takes of rehearsals etc etc.

Morbs is at least willing to re-watch. Just save your bullshit for another time.

sure. hopefully you will have dismounted that rather tall horse of willful offence-taking of yours by then too.

Would someone who knows mind posting a link to the Claire Denis documentary? Somehow I can't find it. Thanks...

My copy of the Arrow box set was delivered on the day he died. RIP.

"... it isnt exactly riveting to watch..."

I see what you did there.

http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/rosie-riveter-1.jpg

sure. hopefully you will have dismounted that rather tall horse of willful offence-taking of yours by then too.

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Don't have such a high opinion of yourself - you haven't offended anyone.

i think i will watch 'the nun' this weekend. any thoughts on this one? conventional wisdom seems to suggest it's one of his more conventional.

i am not proud of the fact that i am totally allergic to celine and julie go boating. i saw it for the first time about 15 years ago, and was just bored. i tried it one more time about 8 years ago, and had to walk out after 40 minutes. the relentless tweeness made me want to rip the heads off of kittens or something. and also i just don't think he was much of a visual stylist at that point! i think he got better -- much of "Secret defense" is extremely evocative.

i say "i am not proud" b/c people whose opinions i respect a great deal think it's the bee knees, but i just don't get it.

i am proud. they are wrong.

we're unusually simpatico this evening, morbs.

As someone who is allergic to tweeness I felt the stretching of time deployed by Rivette cut that right off.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/interviews/jacques-rivette-out-1-celine-julie-go-boating?utm_content=bufferfc600&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitterbfi&utm_campaign=buffer

Excellent interview from the S&S archives - lots of tibbits on Bioy (who is of course had a couple of tasty reissues recently). Finds Henry James "unfilmmable".

Imagine reading this in '74 and not being able to see Out 1. Would've made me crazy.

Thank you, love the way Rivette talks about films (his own and other people's)

"Contrary to what people think, I’m not particularly well read."

Checking his filmog I've seen less than I thought I had. Le Pont du Nord is something I want to see as soon-ish as poss. Got a hunch about that one.

do you subscribe to Mubi xyzzzz__because this is on there at the moment. I started watching it yesterday.

I listened to Rosenbaum talking about Out 1 on The Cinephiliacs podcast about a week before Rivette's passing. I'd love to see it sometime.

I don't - was told on twitter last night about the availability of the film on MUBI, where I also found out that the accordion based tune mentioned by Ward is actually a Grace Jones cover.

I'll see whether I can do this or not. Most of the year I tend to watch films at the cinema - mind really wanders off nowdays if I am not inside the dark box.

I noticed the Denis documentary has been taken down from YT. Good thing I saved a copy. It's a great one.

(link in my post, y'all)

i'm sleep deprived as usual on Fridays so there's no way i'm going to make it to Love on the Ground in 3 hours (Rivette make me sleepy to begin with and that's not necessarily a dis).

Morbs, there is a Region 2 DVD of Love on the Ground - however I would prioritise the same company's Gang of Four DVD above it:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Love-Ground-English-subtitles-DVD/dp/B000TQLJU0/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1454717246&sr=1-1&keywords=love+on+the+ground

But if you really want to sample Rivette on home video DVD, there is a Region 1 disc of Va Savoir that might appeal - it's his most Rohmeresque film, except with many of the old obsessions, chiefly the theatre.

i think i will watch 'the nun' this weekend. any thoughts on this one? conventional wisdom seems to suggest it's one of his more conventional.

Saw it once about fifteen years ago. Yes, it has the most conventional mise en scene of any Rivette film, and no obvious moments of improvisation - this might sound more appealing to Rivette-sceptics, but my memory of is that it's a bit of a slog; far inferior to the Joan of Arc movies in terms of a 'period Rivette'.

saw Va Savoir when it was released

Cheers for the Denis, Jay Vee

Atlanta people, Emory Univ. is screening Out 1 for free this weekend.
http://filmstudies.emory.edu/home/events/