Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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They might see it as good free market testing for future bootleg series interest

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 February 2016 13:47 (eight years ago) link

seems like there are certain Dylan things that always get taken down (eat the document, renaldo and clara and the hard rain tv special come to mind) but some stuff that just sticks around for whatever reason. who can guess the motives of the web sheriff.

i was in a record store yesterday and they were playing a vinyl bootleg of some rolling thunder 1976 recordings, which weirdly enough was pressed in 2014! guess the vinyl bootleg industry is still alive. terrible artwork too, with a photo of bob from like 1991 on it. seems like if you're going to go to the trouble of breaking the law you should at least make it look cool.

tylerw, Monday, 1 February 2016 15:09 (eight years ago) link

Do 2014 vinyl bootlegs still do the fake-name thing on labels, like boots in the 70s (e.g., a Dylan boot credited to "Bobby Z and his Orchestra" on the label) ?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link

at least be honest

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 February 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link

I think it's because it's not illegal to print fake sleeves for things, but it is to make the CDs/LPs

Mark G, Monday, 1 February 2016 16:22 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The Complete Basement Tapes won a Grammy, Best Historical Recording---lots of *stiff* competition, get it? (lots of dead people, that is; get your mind out of the gutter)(and into the coffin)

dow, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 00:46 (eight years ago) link

that was predictable even by grammy standards

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 04:25 (eight years ago) link

I know it's been discussed upthread but for some reason I don't think I really "got it" at the time, but that whole Vol. 12 was probably really only issued because of the EU copyrighting laws? Well, it ended up a very cool compilation.

niels, Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link

Yes.

Mark G, Thursday, 3 March 2016 09:38 (eight years ago) link

vol. 12 is a blast (in both 6 and 18-disc iterations!). it's a golden age for dylan obsessives.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

rich Dylan obsessives maybe

Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link

poor Dylan obsessives like me not so much >:(

Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link

"That depends. Just how far in do you want to go?"

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/inside-bob-dylans-historic-new-tulsa-archive-its-an-endless-ocean-20160303?page=2

dow, Saturday, 5 March 2016 03:23 (eight years ago) link

whoa

Chaiken has only begun to dip into the hundreds of hours of raw Dylan recording sessions, but he's already come across a completely different version of 1997's Time Out of Mind produced by pianist Jim Dickinson and the complete John Wesley Harding sessions. "It's such a mysterious record," he says. "I heard a couple of alternate takes of 'All Along The Watchtower' that were, to me as a fan, just incredible."

The film footage is equally compelling. It includes 30 hours of outtakes from D.A. Pennebaker's 1965 tour documentary Don't Look Back, another 30 hours of footage shot on Dylan's legendary 1966 electric tour, upwards of 50 hours shot on the 1975 Rolling Thunder Revue along with a Toronto stop of Dylan's gospel tour and footage of Dylan, the Band and Tiny Tim goofing around in Woodstock, New York, around the time that work began on The Basement Tapes. "The collection is going to continue to grow," says Chaiken. "As Bob continues to tour, there's going to be more stuff that's added."
Bob Dylan; Archive
Lyric draft of "Ballad of a Thin Man" Erik Campos

The bulk of the collection chronicles Dylan's musical career, onstage and off, but there are also more personal items like a mid-1960s address book with phone numbers for Nico, Lenny Bruce and Allen Ginsberg, a private letter from George Harrison praising the recently released Nashville Skyline and 1978 postcard from Barbra Streisand thanking Dylan for sending her flowers.

Dylan's complete recording sessions reside in Iron Mountain, a secret, climate-controlled underground facility, and the University of Tulsa and the Kaiser Foundation are no hurry to move them to Oklahoma, but they are being digitized, and curators plan on making them available to visitors via an offline computer at the Gilcrease Museum. Sony retains the right to release the material to the public via future volumes of the Bootleg Series and other archival packages, but the Tulsa facility will retain ownership of the physical tapes.

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Saturday, 5 March 2016 07:58 (eight years ago) link

that'll be my first trip to Tulsa!

niels, Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:55 (eight years ago) link

...footage of Dylan, the Band and Tiny Tim goofing around in Woodstock, New York, around the time that work began on The Basement Tapes.

^would watch! first time i listened to the you are what you eat soundtrack i remember thinking that organ playing sounds familiar... then the slowly dawning realisation that, yes, that is actually the band backing up tiny tim on his tracks.

the complete John Wesley Harding sessions

& holy shit!

no lime tangier, Saturday, 5 March 2016 12:42 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

so the "Blowin' In The Wind" on Vol 11 disk 5: this is great! did they do it this way any other times? it's waaaay diff than Before the Flood, looser, more hilarious, 1967, like I actually want to listen to that song again!

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 11 April 2016 12:28 (eight years ago) link

yeah i love that one -- i actually think he mayyy have played it in a similar arrangement sometime during the neverending tour years!
wonder what exactly they were doing with those old tunes at that point. i know dylan talks about a potential tour with the band in that late 60s rolling stone interview. pretty weird to think of them going out on the road in 68 or 69 with a head full of basement noise. guess the closest we'll come is that isle of wight gig (and those few tunes on the guthrie tribute concert album)

tylerw, Monday, 11 April 2016 13:57 (eight years ago) link

Just posted this on Rolling Reissues, here tis for those who don't go there (you're missing a lot)

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For the first time ever, the super group’s music will be available on streaming services, beginning June 3, 2016, along with the re-launch of the hugely successful Traveling Wilburys Collection box set as a limited-edition, uniquely numbered 2-CD 1-DVD box set, standard 2-CD 1-DVD package, deluxe 180-gram vinyl box and for the first time as high-resolution downloads. The release includes albums (Vol. 1 and Vol. 3), bonus tracks and a DVD featuring footage of the band from the first chord to the final mix.
When originally released in 2007, The Traveling Wilburys Collection debuted at #1 in the U.K. and six other countries and entered the U.S. charts at #9, making it the highest chart debut of a box set at the time, and has since been certified Gold.
The previously released albums Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1 and Traveling Wilburys Vol. 3 feature music's greatest singer-songwriters — George Harrison, Jeff Lynne, Roy Orbison, Tom Petty and Bob Dylan — as the legendary band the Traveling Wilburys.
The Wilburys formed in 1988 after Dylan, Harrison, Petty, Lynne and Orbison assembled at Dylan's Malibu, California studio to record a B-side for the Harrison single "This Is Love." The resulting song, "Handle With Care," was instead released under the Wilburys name, with the artists posing as a band of brothers. George later said, "I liked the song and the way that it turned out with all these people on it so much that I just carried it around in my pocket for ages thinking, 'Well what can I do with this thing?' And the only thing to do I could think of was do another nine. Make an album." The original album release, Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1, achieved great success; after hitting No. 3 on the Billboard Top 200 chart, the certified double Platinum album earned a GRAMMY® for Best Rock Performance by a Duo or Group.
Traveling Wilburys Vol. 3, the group's second album, was released in 1990 and dedicated to Lefty (Roy Orbison) Wilbury, who passed away in late 1988 before recording could be completed. "She's My Baby" and "Wilbury Twist" became radio hits as the album reached #11 in the U.S. and was certified Platinum.
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—Rolling Stone, Dec 1, 1988
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dow, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:09 (eight years ago) link

So basically ... a reissue of the reissue?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link

yeah

tylerw, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link

When originally released in 2007, The Traveling Wilburys Collection debuted at #1 in the U.K. and six other countries

Yeah, but each one of those countries started a band.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 April 2016 17:28 (eight years ago) link

xpost basically, with streams and downloads (very handy for me)

dow, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link

Yep, we remember...
The Travelling Wilburys are number one on the album chart!! (This is not a very old thread)

Mark G, Monday, 18 April 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link

(It is now..)

Mark G, Monday, 18 April 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/movies/da-pennebaker-interview-bob-dylan-documentary-dont-look-back.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Farts&action=click&contentCollection=arts®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront

Pennebaker interview in association with an exhibit at the Morrison Hotel Gallery in SoHo.

Did you want to have a preliminary conversation with Dylan?

We arranged to meet in a bar down in the Village with Bobby Neuwirth, who was his road manager. We sat and talked, and then he said, “I’ve got this idea for a film where I take a whole lot of sheets of paper and write lyrics for a song, and hold them up as the lyrics come up in the song and then I just toss them away.” And I said, “That’s a fantastic idea.” So we brought along about 50 shirt cardboards, and that’s how we did the whole thing in the alleyway [“Subterranean Homesick Blues”].

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 May 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link

i just rewatched Dont Look Back, i think it's my favorite movie

tylerw, Friday, 20 May 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

HMMMM, don't think any of this has ever been bootlegged before.
http://www.collectorsmusicreviews.com/dylan-bob/hot-new-dylan-releases-on-rattlesnake/
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‘After The Empire’ is a 16 track studio outtakes CD of ideas that were recorded after the ‘Empire Burlesque’ album but were ultimately unreleased. This is made up of mostly new Dylan originals with the exception of one cover version. The running time of the CD is just over 70 minutes.
that is some real good bootleg cover art.

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

loving the Seinfeldian smirk

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 09:09 (seven years ago) link

"Why don't they call it Roundtine?"

dow, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link

needs "you know, stadows" word balloon

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

may as well plug this thing i wrote here: http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1157-beyond-the-bootlegs-bob-dylans-unreleased-holy-grails/
i've already been contacted by a "super collector" setting me straight on some of this ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

also, a major announcement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFyP9JjmZ80

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

Awww, I don't wanna enable Adobe---what is it, huh?

dow, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link

Also, what did the "super collector" say? Quite a fun read, anyway.

dow, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link

you need adobe to watch a youtube clip? anyway, it's kind of a dumb joke about a forthcoming bootleg series being "The Bathroom Tapes."

supercollector was extremely skeptical about the existence of a Jim Dickinson-produced Time Out Of Mind, says the JWH outtakes are amazing, says there are "thousands of hours" of tapes from the Rundown Era (1977-81), says the (mostly) unreleased Bromberg sessions from the early 90s are "beautiful." I asked him if he could send me the JWH alternates and he said: "Unfortunately I cannot."

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

Aww. Thanks!

dow, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link

Nice piece tyler!

niels, Thursday, 2 June 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

thanks!

tylerw, Thursday, 2 June 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

Nice piece, Tyler! Have you ever happened across any outtakes from Masked and Anonymous? The 4 songs on the soundtrack were incredible performances... Apparently they recorded 20 or so? and I've never been able to find any evidence of them.

hardcore dilettante, Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I've read about that stuff, never come across any unreleased things -- some info here: http://www.bjorner.com/DSN24025%20-%202002%20Summer%20sessions.htm
I do really like the songs on the soundtrack, that was a killer band. Guess that is the only time "dirt road blues" has been performed, which isn't that exciting but it's a little exciting...

tylerw, Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

In light of Tyler's awesome article, thought I would see if anyone round these parts has had a listen to this newly unearthed 80s material that's popped up in the last few days? Haven't got to the sessions with Tom Petty yet but this other stuff from 1985 is great!

It's a total dark period for me as a Dylan listener, up until now I've pretty much stopped at Infidels then started up again with Oh Mercy, but I'm enjoying this new stuff a lot more than I thought I would going in. Obviously unfinished demos / rehearsals, very stripped back compared to the other mid-80s stuff I've heard and it sounds like he's having fun

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

nothing amazing/revelatory on either of these new things, but both are fun listens nonetheless. dylan straining for the high notes on "under the boardwalk" is hilarious.
couple of things on after the empire that could've been developed into good tunes, but I get the feeling it's all pretty much off the cuff/on the spot. definitely seems to be enjoying himself...

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Got the two volume Cutting Edge v cheap recently, the revelation for me has been that first take of Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window, definitely prefer it to the Band version - Dylan's singing seems much more passionate, for one thing. Lyrics an example of that old Dylan prescience - lines like "With his businesslike anger and his bloodhounds that kneel" and "While his genocide fools and his friends rearrange/ The religion of little tin women/That backs up their views but your face is so bruised/Come on out the dark is beginning" seems to anticipate Trump (I guess it's partly a song about tyrants)

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 13:40 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

haha, pretty crazy ... i do want to hear it all though. at least once. that Paris show should be interesting!

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link

Haha... never change those EU copyright laws

niels, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link

seems that they're putting the "real" royal albert hall gig out as a 2CD set too ...
i do miss the curatorial aspect of the bootleg series, but i also am not going to complain about getting the whole damn thing.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

Ha — I just posted that to the "shit that looks like an Onion article" thread.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link


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