Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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Whereas the Jolly Scousers will welcome another defensive coach at Anfield with open arms?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link

it's what we need, really.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Real have already appointed Camacho anyway haven't they?

Jonnie, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link

oh yeh i'd forgotten about that. Camacho did well with Spain didn't he - the '02 World CUp squad actually looked like winners to me, they didn't count on that dodgy ref against South Korea tho. shame as i think they would've crushed Germany and given Brazil a very close run. I expect Real to return to greatness pronto.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link

''The Spurs job is a plum job for a manager who wants to take the credit for building up a mediocre team with lots of good young potential and a bit of money.''

sorry i might have misread this but are you joking matt? o'neill has already shown he can do this kind of thing with leicster city.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't realise until this very morn, that Benitez was the guy who took Extremadura into La Primera. Well, he was. And straight back down again, natch.

Does he speak English? Most of these foreigners do. They learn it in school, innit.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

o'neill has already shown he can do this kind of thing with leicster city.

true but Spurs are still considered an echelon higher (never mind what league tables say), not big enough for O'Neill to ditch Celtic for tho I'm sure.

We need to teach forinnas to say 'innit'

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Where do we wise ones think Ranieri's off to then?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Benitez does indeed speak English, and is reportedly very fond of the English football.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Ranieri to Roma maybe?

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah I reckon he's had enough of the UK, don't blame him

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ranieri has been linked to Roma, and also Spurs, but Roma are in financial difficulties (capello joined juve this weekend).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Everyone's in financial difficulty these days. Where's Hitzfeld going?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Ranieri's settled in London. Although with a £6m pay-off, he could settle where he likes.

I think Spurs is a real option.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Leicster => didn't have much of a budget, and he did show he could organise a team to play above the players individual capabilitites, so why would he want to do that again?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Ranieri to Valencia? But yeah, I think he'll go to the Lane

chris (chris), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Roma have already snapped up the Parma coach so they have no need for Ranieri.

Jonnie, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

So, both Euro Cup winners off to merrie england in the space of a week. England 2004 = Italy 1991 = some time before a decent english manager gets a look in - they might actually have to go abroad to make their name.

Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

That would be a good thing, wouldn't it?

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i'd be happy to see Ranieri at Spurs. where is Lippi now?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't see why Ranieri would necessarily have had enough of the UK... Like, sure, Ambramovich screwed him over, but has there /ever/ been a club manager as popular across all clubs? Like, ever?

I'd like to see him at Tottenham. I don't know why really, I feel completely neautral abt Spurs, maybe I just want him near, bein' all cuddly and tinkery and that.

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Ranieri = good at taking 2nd/3rd tier clubs and hauling them into respectable positions. Also knows how to organise a defence. Frankly I'd rather him than Queiroz right now.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1239720,00.html

the junefox, Thursday, 17 June 2004 08:08 (nineteen years ago) link

If, at some future date, those who survived me had applied on my behalf, I think EFC would have done some investigation and concluded that I only qualified for the 'mobile armchair' option: dispersal on the top-deck of a cross-river bus or burial in Rake Lane Cemetery with an FM Walkman tuned to Radio City and a Peter Eastoe sticker.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 17 June 2004 08:19 (nineteen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/3847081.stm

I am cheered by this.

the bellefox, Monday, 28 June 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been wondering which thread this belongs on - this is perfect. I am very heartened by this news.

chris (chris), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

The prospect of Stevie G moving to Chelsea has been depressing the hell out of me for the last two weeks. I am so glad he has come to his senses. Hopefully he will be playing alongside Pablo Aimar before long.(And maybe Liverpool will end up buying Duff anyway.)

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

dream signings from Valencia? Possibly Aimar (although we don't really need a midfield fannydangler, we have one in Kewell, who needs to sort himself out) but I'd like to see Baraja and Ayala.

chris (chris), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I miss the days when you liked a bit of fannydangle, cabs.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I think fannydanglers should be rationed JtN - one per team.

chris (chris), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Good to see Gerrard not going to Chelsea.

On the fannydangle subject, the Spurs website announced results for the fans dream team. The midfield is Waddle, Hoddle, Gascoigne and Ginola. Now that, my friends, is fannydangle.

Jonnie, Monday, 28 June 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

!!!

the bellefox, Monday, 28 June 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

no place for Tony Galvin then?

chris (chris), Monday, 28 June 2004 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

That Spurs midfield would be great if there were anyone to get the ball for them.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Strange days!

Murphy to Charlton: 'I wanted to join a team that was pehaps not so cosmopolitan'.

Owen may be off for £10m.

I fear for the Pool.

the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

More than you fear for Everton?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd be really scared if I was an Everton fan. The one here at work told me yesterday "I just don't want us to be totally humiliated"

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link

But ... Liverpool have a new manager who is supposed to take them back to their journey up to The Next Level. And he seems to be taking them downwards. Or maybe not - maybe his plan is still sound?

They did win last night in Europe - I must not forget that.

the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link

how is he taking them downwards?

Selling Owen is not necessarily bad business, wait until he buys a possible replacement first, plus money now is better than no money next year.

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't beleive Benitez is taking Liverpool downward - especially if Alonso signs and the Cisse-Baros partnership works. Murphy has been a minor player over the past two seasons and his loss is hardly going to be the end of the club. And the Owen money would probably be more useful than Owen himself in this day and age - especially if they can bring in Morientes or someone in his place.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Liverpool fans have nothing to fear - they're replacing quality with quality as some Rednose once said. If they close the gap on the top three without actually catching them it'll still be a successful season ('team in transition', blah blah blah). In 05-06 they might be expected to win something.

EFC weakest since summer of '94.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Murphy departure = END OF THE CLUB, OFFICIAL

'in this day and age'

the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

ha ha that's cobblers

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Murphy was, incidentally, one of the few good things about ITV's Euro2004 coverage. Remarkably astute and articulate - a future Premiership on Monday pundit spot awaits him, no doubt. I also remember some "Encourage the kiddies to read" initiative a while back where footballers talked about their favourite books. Most of them nominated things like 'The Winds in the Willows' etc, but Murphy's choice was 'The Anatomy of Motive'.

We will probably be drubbed by Manyoo this season as a result of his departure, though.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I have always liked Murphy; seemed a good solid professional, dedicated and hardworking. A credit to Dario Gradi.

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't know Jerry the Nipper supported Liverpool. Did I?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Boyle, is that a self-parody mail?

I don't know The Anatomy of Motive.

Premiership on Monday is over - for now.

Clive?

the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

No, I really rated Murphy. I recall that Houllier told him he needed to up his game if he wanted a place - he didn't tell his agent to plant stories issuing a come and get me plea in a bid to rid Mighty Murph of his ANFIELD HELL. He just knuckled down, picked up his game, and was a credit to his profession. Top lad.

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link

it's just a shame that he's a complete confidence player, when he's flying he's great, but he gets a few bad games under his belt and it takes him a long while to come back up to form.

I *really * hope he does well at Charlton, lovely lad he is.

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

(So... were *those* mails self-parodies?)

the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link


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