Jean Michel-Jarre

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I had such low expectations for this after that career-ending dud Teo & Tea, plus you know...collabs with Moby, Tangerine Dream, Vince Clarke, Air Laurie Anderson, John Carpenter etc in 2015 sounds like the dullest thing ever but this is...good! Really good!

Siegbran, Thursday, 28 January 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

list of collaborators on his next one is nuts:

Electronica Vol 2: The Heart Of Noise tracklist:

01. ‘The Heart of Noise Pt. 1 feat. Rone’
02. ‘The Heart of Noise Pt. 2’
03. ‘Brick England feat. Pet Shop Boys’
04. ‘As One feat. Primal Scream’
05. ‘Exit feat. E.S’
06. ‘These Creatures feat. Julia Holter’
07. ‘Here For You feat. Gary Numan’
08. ‘The Architect feat. Jeff Mills’
09. ‘What You Wan feat. Peaches’
10. ‘Circus feat. Siriusmo’
11. ‘Why This, Why That, Why feat. Yello’
12. ‘Switch On Leon feat. The Orb’
13. ‘Gisele feat. Sebastien Tellier’
14. ‘Electrees feat. Hans Zimmer’
15. ‘Swipe To The Right feat. Cyndi Lauper’
16. ‘Walking The Mile feat. Christophe’
17. ‘Falling Down’
18. ‘The Heart of Noise (The Origin)’

http://www.factmag.com/2016/02/19/jean-michel-jarre-electronica-2/

François Pitchforkian (NickB), Friday, 19 February 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

oh man, that Pet Shop Boys track could be very good

frogbs, Friday, 19 February 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link

I gave the last one a go but his melodic sense is just so corny I couldn't get with it at all.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 February 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

I kinda like his corny stuff...the long floaty bits are what usually do me in

frogbs, Friday, 19 February 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link

The best tracks on the last one were with collaborators who do the long floaty bits well. ie, Air. On this one the Orb, Rone and Hans Zimmer tracks are my guess as the standouts.

everything, Friday, 19 February 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

The collaboration with Tangerine Dream on the last one was like prime Froese as well.

I don't get "corny." His melodies aren't exactly sophisticated but neither are they especially hokey. Which tracks are you referring to?

For me, Jarre's strength is as a sound designer – "Ethnocolour" from Zoolook is perhaps the best example but over most of his career the guy has always had a great feel for the interrelationship of different sounds and how to position them across the stereo spectrum.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 19 February 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link

eight months pass...

huh

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/jean-michel-jarre/oxygene-3/

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I know :/ I thought that the second Oxygene record was a bad idea itself, as pleasant as it is, it doesn't (and was never going to) come close to the original. I'm curious to hear the new one, but dreading it at the same time. Still, it's nice in a way that all three volumes were released roughly 20 years apart from each other.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 4 November 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

Might have to listen to the Oxygene II again b/c I remember it being quite decent. If nothing else it's cool that he brought all the old synths back. Maybe I'm wrong but I remember a lot of his 90's stuff being quite...good, actually?

either way Jarre is in the same phase of his career that Sylvester Stallone is in now, he can keep jamming out sequels and superstar collab albums till the end of time if he wants

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

Underrated moment on Oxygene: Part III, all of it. Wish it was longer!

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

Part 17 (!) is actually pretty good. I also like Electronica, Vol.2 a lot. He's having his best year in eons.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

I'm just glad he's back - was afraid he'd end his career on the rather abysmal Téo & Téa

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link

Electronica was extremely uneven though, 2 more so than 1. I guess that's inevitable with collabs, but I'm not holding my breath for another Oxygene. He's still able to be really good, but quality control is not his forte.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link

Listening to Heart of Noise/Vol. 2 now – I probably prefer the first volume but with both of these records I enjoy how Jarre's innate sense of style peeks through the various styles of the collaborators and genres.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 25 November 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

This guy's music is only as strong as his everloving chord choices, more than anything it just sounds like he'd do better putting together This Melody and That Chord Progression with a little more attention than he often does

He always suddenly shifts gears into a diminished chord and holds it with a raised eyebrow like "you like that? do you like it when I do that?" and just holds it too long as if a sudden diminished chord is some magical key to building suspense, like an over-confident lover who insists on circling your left nipple with a single finger for far too long

But having listened to Oxygene thru Oxygene 7-13 today, for the first time in 20 years, I can confidently say that I think his oeuvre is better, to my ears, than Kraftwerk's

And to place a challop upon challop, here is my ranking of his "golden era" records, from best to worst-- live albums excluded-- because I find them confusing--

1. Les Chants Magnetiques (best track: the whole thing, but pt. 1 because it's large scale actually works)

2. Chronologie (digital soup, yes, but his best melody writing, best track is easily pt. 4, best track Vangelis never wrote, best track never in an early 90s Future Crew Demoscene nerd demo-- that said my favourite track will forever be pt. 1)

3. Oxygène (best track: pt. 4 obv)

4. Zoolook (best track: as wild and amazing Ethnicolor is, it's the title track; Medulla could never)

5. Rendez-Vous (pt. ?, this was a personal favourite as a kid but I need to re-listen to really decide)

6. Oxygène pt. 7-13 (gorgeously conceived and gorgeously mixed, rather undistinguished but superior to hundreds of present-day throwback analog-synth-noodle-bar projects)

7. Equinoxe (beautiful in tone and colour but insipid in composition, to my ears-- never understood why it was cited as a classic over Les Chants Magnetiques-- I do like the Kraut-y b-side though, pt. 6 is my favourite track here)

8. Revolutions (don't really fuck with this album much but I like London Kid)

9. En Attendant Cousteau (album is drab and sucky, I like Calypso pt. 1 a lot tho, because of its hilarious appearance in Olympic figure skating from time to time)

The fact that this man was married to Charlotte Rampling, dated Isabelle Adjani, and is currently dating Gong Li just makes me feel weird and good

Like this nerd did good for himself, good work sexy French man, you will always be to me what Serge Gainsbourg was to so many others

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

Kraftwerk never really allow themselves to break out of their deadpan shtick, Jarre otoh really embraces his goofiness, I do like that.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link

Your description of Jarre switching to dim chord made me irl lol

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 23:40 (six years ago) link

I think I'd agree with a lot of this. I do really like the title track of Waiting For Cousteau - his only real foray into any kind of Roach/Eno-like drone ambience.

Revolutions is just a demo-reel for the Roland D50, but Tokyo Kid is wonderful.

I periodically think that Zoolook is going to get the widespread rediscovery is deserves, but I guess "Jean Michel Jarre's fourth album" is a tag it may never overcome.

Completely agree on how Oxy7-13 slays a lot of modern analogue synth revivalism.

I'd extend the golden age by a couple of years, because Metamorphoses (1999) is wonderful, and well up there with his best work.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:30 (six years ago) link

Revolutions was the first Jarre album I bought, back when it came out. It sounds a bit muffled and that's mainly the fault of the D50 I think. Also a lot of the tracks on side one sound like he was writing them intentionally with an eye to performing them Houston/Docklands style. They just sound very 'far away' if that makes sense.

2018 has to be better (snoball), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:33 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I tend to find pseudo-orchestral stuff to be a very dull look for electronica in general. Side A of Revolutions is definitely meant to be a bit of pomp for the lasers'n'fireworks.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:41 (six years ago) link

yea that's a really good write up. when I first heard Les Chants Magnetiques I had to keep checking the date. 1981? Crazy.

glad you recognize Chronologie as a top JMJ album - I think it's understandable to want to toss out stuff after Zoolook, but that one really is a return to form. I think it'll go down as one of his best.

I still have not heard the two Electronica albums (the concept of which I loved, but the bad reviews kind of broke my heart), nor the latest Oxygene. Maybe now is the time...

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

Zoolook was my first JMJ album, my never-met-until-age-10-much-older-brother-from-a-previous-marriage dubbed it onto tape for me and I listened to it constantly, and didn't realize until adulthood that this resulted in a very early exposure to Laurie Anderson's voice which I now associate with the jouissance and carelessness of childhood

I'm listening to Ethnicolor again now and like I remember all the silly vocalizations like nothing: "eye-suh! eye-suh!" "dye-yuh-yuh" "welp-me! welp-me!"

Oh shit there's that diminished chord again lol

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link

I just remember one of the hilarious vocal samples is literally a guy saying "where are my liquorice allsorts"

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link

yea for all his accomplishments making a legitimately great Fairlight album has got to be up there

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link

The Electronica albums and Oxygene 3 are all better than the various odds and ends that limped out post-Metamorphoses and all have their moments, but suffer from a lack of focus. The Electronica albums quite often slip into a sort of neon 80s dance-pop that's a bit undistiguished, and O3 doesn't have any of the teeming, organic busyness of the previous two Oxygene albums. He's on the right track though; they're by and large better than a lot of the stuff his contemporaries have been making lately, and it would be nice to see him keep up this rate of productivity as I suspect he may still have another great record in him one day.

Having checked, I think Metamorphoses might be the only one of his albums that's not readily available on streaming / DL services. Such a pity, it's terrific.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link

What is interesting to me about Jean-Michel Jarre was that he essentially invented a genre of music, this kind of polished French pop sci-fi ridiculousness that seems completely unattached to other genres, the way that Vangelis was attached to New Age, or Giorgio to disco-- he reminds me of Richard James in this regard

I guess the closest reference point I can think of for his music is "composition exercises?" So many of his tracks are like "baby's first experiment with polyphony"

I'm listening to "Second Rendez-Vous" right now and it is so amazing and lol

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link

I love the idea of JMJ stacking up the minor-thirds while raising an eyebrow and saying in a saucy frainche accent 'Oh you like that, do you? Of course you do, you minx...'

MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link

He truly is Franch Dressing

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link

A+ revive, thank u fgti for that great writeup

sleeve, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:54 (six years ago) link

Yeah, that list will be extremely helpful. When Oxygene 3 came out, there was a package with remasters of the first two albums, so I bought the whole thing, but I've never listened to anything else, so now I need to dig around. I doubt he'll ever fully replace Klaus Schulze as my go-to guy for long train rides, but you never know.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link

one advantage to Jean Michel Jarre is that he never released a 70-CD boxset

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I tend to find pseudo-orchestral stuff to be a very dull look for electronica in general.

― bamboohouses, Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:41 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM as hell-- this is why the Vangelisaurus was extincted

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link

JMJ honking on diminished chords is a feature, not a bug. Augmented chords too.

Xpost… I don’t think of Revolutions as a dull sounding record at all. What I like about it is how stupidly on the nose the whole Indutrial Revolutions suite is: grim slog of agrilabour -> building tempo of indutrialistaion -> white heat of techno capitalism –> post capitalism eco disaster/blues keytar solo. Like Koyannisqaatsi reduced to 16 minutes.

29 facepalms, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:51 (six years ago) link

Has anyone heard Musique pour Supermarché? Is it true it's quite experimental and difficult?

MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link

there is a copy floating around the internet, I think. I heard it once - the sound quality is quite poor - I remember thinking it was like an early version of Zoolook

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link

One of the tracks from Musique made it on to Zoolook, at least: Blah Blah Café

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link

Music for Supermarkets is here and is great - very much a halfway house between Magnetic Fields and Zoolook. (It got a single radio broadcast before it was sold, hence the horrible FM sound quality).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvFK9-2Jmtw

About half of it turns up on later albums - mainly Zoolook, but also Rendezvous. The versions here are completely identical, which does rather cast doubt on Jarre's claims to have destroyed the masters. (Wouldn't be the only time something like this has happened to him either - see also the "30th anniversary re-recording" of Oxygene, which quite reasonably prompted a lawsuit from his former label because it's quite self-evidently from the original master tapes.)

bamboohouses, Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

How big a celebrity is Jarre in France? Is he say John Tesh famous or maybe Bob Seger famous or perhaps national treasure famous?

earlnash, Thursday, 15 March 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link

National treasure famous, but he toured 15-20,000-seaters last year in both France and the UK, if that's any indication.

Siegbran, Thursday, 15 March 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

there are now 2 'classic albums' boxsets for JMJ, second set just released.
however, they have properly messed things around.
box 1 starts at Magnetic Fields,
box 2 has Oxygene.
neither box has Equinox.
surely they should have just done them in chrono order!?

mark e, Thursday, 15 March 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link

hats off fgti, that is one of the most dedicated and forgiving rankings of jarre I have seen! putting Chronologie at #2 is definitely an alternate-wormhole act of love I can only admire

moving 'moon machine' back onto main shuffle playlist now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3XRbYLTOWI

Milton Parker, Thursday, 15 March 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

Thanks Milton!

Interestingly enough, my stanning for "Chronologie", like my stanning for "Outside", was largely borne out of being in a position of ignorance-of-canon when I got into both Jarre and Bowie. I was 14 and 15 when I got into both artists, respectively, and bought all their stuff all at once. I was, much later, amazed to read that BowieNet ranked, say, "Aladdin Sane" so highly, but didn't give a fuck about "Outside"-- "are Bowie fans deaf?" I thought, "his vocals on Ziggy Stardust sound so nasal and whiny..."-- and I'd blast "I'm Deranged" with my middle finger raised

But yeah same goes for Jarre. I get that the synths got chintzier, the mood became closer to "Les Miserables", but I just had so much more of a teenage emotional response to "Chronologie" (and "Les Chants Magnetiques") than the widely-beloved "Oxygene". We watched Gallipoli in Grade 10 English class, and being the only Jarre fan in town (probably), I told friends "yeah that's not even close to his best song though" and lent them my "Chronologie" cassette

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 15 March 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link

Judging from the comments on RYM, you're not the only one.

Siegbran, Thursday, 15 March 2018 23:20 (six years ago) link

Chronologie has always been a favourite with the hardcore Jarre fans (I used to be on the discussion lists back in the day).

Interesting that Metamorphoses is in that new Classics box (with new art, oddly). I wonder if that means it'll finally get a digital release.

bamboohouses, Friday, 16 March 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link

i still think AERO is the best way to experience JMJ.
all the best bits in massive wall shaking stereo.

mark e, Friday, 16 March 2018 23:14 (six years ago) link

(the "30th anniversary re-recording" of Oxygene, which quite reasonably prompted a lawsuit from his former label because it's quite self-evidently from the original master tapes.)

I just told this anecdote and Kathryn said “putting the G back in Gallic”

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 17 March 2018 03:59 (six years ago) link

this LP is my favorite Oxygene pastiche:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBAk6NnFOL8

had (crüt), Saturday, 17 March 2018 04:30 (six years ago) link

Do hardcore Jarre fans call themselves JarreHeads? (don't look at me, I'm a Philip K. Dick fan)

StanM, Saturday, 17 March 2018 08:18 (six years ago) link

I am not the first to mention it but Oxygene Pt. 17 should not be overlooked in the trilogy. It very much belongs with it’s forbears.

As noted upthread, the Electronica albums have their moments – I rep for the T. Dream collaboration as it is the last thing Froese released (or first posthumous release I can’t remember). The Air collaboration is also very much everything you would hope it would be given their ancestry.

Also, while it’s amusing that Jarre was sued about the Oxygene re-recording—it does sound awfully close—was that actually proven? Jarre did an extensive interview with Sound on Sound to discuss how he (re-)made that record – and the live DVD (“Live In Your Living Room”) also sounds very, very close (and is quite good). Interview is here: https://www.soundonsound.com/people/jean-michel-jarre

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 17 March 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link


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