R. Kelly: Ongoing Legal Process

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thanx i wanted to post that with the flex one but couldn't find it

eman, Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Wtf @ this thread

My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 December 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

very happy about the verdict here

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 20 December 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link

Don't forget about can't pee on u

乒乓, Friday, 20 December 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...
one month passes...

This remains horrendous.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:24 (six years ago) link

Wtf @ this thread

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, December 20, 2013 10:40 AM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dunno about right or wrong but Ilx used to be at least interesting. Now its the same vaginal-male perspective you get literally everywhere else

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link

whut

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:33 (six years ago) link

listen I'm just a regular guy, I put my vagina on one leg at a time like everybody else

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:35 (six years ago) link

also lol @ my shaggs/keef dn not my best work

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link

"Internet liberal" might be a better/less self-consciously aggressive term but it does feel a lot more unified politically than it used to. A lot of positions on issues, it's just taken for granted we all agree, there's less discussion. Not sure I mind really, "discussions" used to get p fractious and unpleasant.

albvivertine, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link

i dunno about right or wrong but Ilx used to be at least interesting. Now its the same vaginal-male perspective you get literally everywhere else

― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 02:29 (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ah, for the good old days when people were straight-up underage rape apologists.

Pheeel, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:55 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

lol Lifetime, so brave, surely they are doing this in order to damage his career rather than profit off of it

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Embattled R&B star R Kelly has been filmed telling a room full of people it is "too late" for his musical influence to be curtailed.

The video was originally uploaded to Facebook on 17 May, as the singer faced fresh allegations of sexual misconduct.

"I'm handcuffed by my destiny," he says, clutching a cigar. "They should've did this [expletive] 30 years ago.

"It's too late. The music has been injected into the world."

omar little, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

well he's right about that

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

otoh, legacies can be erased

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

i don't think R Kelly is going to get many new fans down the road, that's one way to do it.

omar little, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

on the other hand, it's crazy what fans will say to defend him, how they'll still believe he's being railroaded or even did nothing wrong.

omar little, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link

eight months pass...

BREAKING: Embattled R&B superstar R. Kelly was charged with 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse in Cook County Friday morning, records show. https://t.co/H7k2Ind5F7

— Chicago Sun-Times (@Suntimes) February 22, 2019

omar little, Friday, 22 February 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link

That only took ... years and years of inaction and unrepentant repugnant behavior.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 February 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link

don't forget the michael jackson-style messianic self-aggrandizing songs!

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 19:20 (five years ago) link

What in the everloving fuck @ this thread.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 22 February 2019 21:02 (five years ago) link

lol Lifetime, so brave, surely they are doing this in order to damage his career rather than profit off of it

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, May 8, 2018 11:11 AM (nine months ago)

Damn, Shakey, this was cynical!

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link

that's a weird comment

why not both?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 21:26 (five years ago) link

Beyond why not both, they also undoubtedly had to factor in the risk of a defamation claim

HBO actually is being sued by the Jackson Estate for airing the "Leaving Neverland" doc (though that's a wild-seeming contractual claim based on a 1992 agreement for airing a concert, in which HBO apparently agreed "not make any disparaging remarks" about Jackson)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link

this thread title is very internet-2002 in a bad way

dyl, Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:08 (five years ago) link

Now I want to know what Marcello could have said that was serious enough to get deleted in 2008

You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:26 (five years ago) link

don’t try it.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link

sounds like he is in custody

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:58 (five years ago) link

which record is that on?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 February 2019 04:13 (five years ago) link

Step in the Name of the Law

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 February 2019 04:57 (five years ago) link

wau at s clover

Norm’s Superego (silby), Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:11 (five years ago) link

cant believe the time before now wasnt now

cristiano ornaldo (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

being loud and mad and red online about how 27-year-olds should be allowed to fuck 14-year-olds without censure probably has as many adherents now as it did then

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link

aaliyah said it best. age ain't... i.e. maturity doesn't come at the stroke of midnight but differently for different people. besides, two teen can consentually screw but not an adult and a teen, which makes no sense.

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, June 5, 2002 5:00 PM (sixteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And feminists with their boneheaded equation of emotional and physical harm have done a great disservice in this regard. Yesyes I know I am making enemies of everyone in ILX. Fuckit.

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, June 5, 2002 5:00 PM (sixteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but we have to remember that things were a lot different in the 2000s

omar little, Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

This thread isn’t regular old-ilx bad, it’s some of these people must be on a register by now bad

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

More props for the Lifetime doc:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/r-kelly-survivor-lisa-vanallen-writes-ny-times-op-ed-1190441

https://variety.com/2019/music/news/john-legend-r-kelly-long-time-coming-1203150150/

(Someone should maybe change this thread title, btw?)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link

(...thanks, mod!)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:49 (five years ago) link

_
but we have to remember that things were a lot different in the 2000s


I never even bothered listening to R Kelly's music based on his marriage w A. It just felt horribly wrong. As wrong as my best friend being 15 and having a 30 yo boyfriend. I don't/didn't blame the teenager but the adults. Society changes and I know that impacts how we se sexuality (and what's wrong/right) but at the end of the day it just feels wrong for me.

Two teenagers having sex is very very different than an adult having sex with a 15 yo girl. The power balance is different for example.

nathom, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link

i believe omar little was being facetious

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link

i remember in 2002 thinking that a 24 year post-grad student going out with a 17 year school girl was weird lol

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link

If I were actually to consider accusing a network of looking to “profit” from these developments, it would be CBS for airing this week’s big two-part interview with R. Kelly. I guess he certainly has the right to defend himself on TV if he wants. But it feels like the exclusive, heavily promoted interview may serve to legitimize his position in some way? Idk

yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link

dude took all the wrong lessons from the Kavanaugh hearing

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link

But it feels like the exclusive, heavily promoted interview may serve to legitimize his position in some way?

Have you seen it? He pretty much set himself on fire.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link

I’ve read excerpts.

yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 21:52 (five years ago) link

Back in jail for unpaid child support.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 22:01 (five years ago) link

"also i said the same sorta stuff about king and boys, so yes it was to be expected."

who is King? wait was this S clover actually advocating for pederasty?

man the 2000's were crazy weird times.

akm, Thursday, 7 March 2019 03:51 (five years ago) link

i kind of get the rhetorical move he's trying to make t/o this thread... but suggesting that a 12(!!!!!!!!) yr old girl can grant "consent" to have intercourse with an adult male--as he indeed does above-- is an incredible thing to write.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 04:01 (five years ago) link


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