John Cale S/D

the thread

pisssssssss

sorry

music for a new society reissue/2016 redux

So I gave this a listen and, while it's an interesting reinterpretation, I don't understand why he felt the need to turn it into an opera. I mean, the original is already quite intense, but here he's added even MORE drama to it all.

So over on the Blackstar thread I posted 'bout how KMUW's "Strange Currencies" ignored the FCC or Public Radio rule somebody mentioned vs. playing more than one track by a given artist per hour, as they celebrated Bo's birthday with an hour of hits & album tracks, then a second hour of guest shots etc (like on Ronson's Slaughter On Tenth Avenue). And right now, for the hell of it apparently, they're following tracks from M:Fans, Songs For Drella and The Matrix Tapes with the Rock N Roll Animal "Sweet Jane". Not all Cale, but not bad. (More from M:Fans coming up.)

Changes Made in the style of Joy Division on M:FANS is p lolz

riyl dark morbid spiritual soundscapes

Thoughtless Kind as Kanye also pretty funny.

Changes Made in the style of Joy Division on M:FANS is p lolz

hahaha the reworking is a blast

which it feels weird to characterize anything about this album as a "blast" but idk he kinda made it fun

haha, yeah, i think i'd call it "fun", too! which is quite a feat, considering these songs.

also "back to the end" is super gorgeous

if I didn't like the "Close Watch" rework will I still find things to like y/n

definitely, every rework is pretty distinct

http://www.stereogum.com/1869163/watch-john-cale-play-the-velvet-underground-nico-with-animal-collective-the-libertines-mark-lanegan/video/

No-thanks

I refuse to listen to anything a member of Animal Collective has contributed to

I feel the same about the Libertines.

agggh no

http://concert.arte.tv/fr/john-cale-and-guests-velvet-underground-nico

(= same thing as before but complete and HD)

John Cale ‏@therealjohncale 37m37 minutes ago
Its official, @therealjohncale joins #BowieProms on July 29 Royal Albert Hall
http://bit.ly/29rbHdd

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnBoy2GWEAAPKj0.jpg:large

Cool.

Just was listing to "in Every Dream Home A Heartache" and thinking how much Bryan Ferry's vocal sounded like John Cale. In fact before I recognized what song it was really thought it was John Cale.

Baby John Cale! He whispered "I performed in a concert that lasted 18 hours" into a game show host's ear <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=0mqO-xsRyTM

That Welsh accent is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

He's playing at the Joshua Tree Desert Daze festival this coming weekend, and Terry Riley is also on the bill for the same day. I'm thinking how cool it would be if they do some Church of Anthrax stuff together.

http://desertdaze.org/

that video just set me up for the day :)

Is Even Cowgirls Get The Blues still available? He was really intense in the late 70s, did a bit of a twin guitar thing going on .
NOt sure taht's even his best from the era but him between like 76 and 81 live is pretty great, certainly up to the turn of the 80s.

I got a few sets fo his from Dime and other torrent sites that are great.

He's playing at the Joshua Tree Desert Daze festival this coming weekend, and Terry Riley is also on the bill for the same day. I'm thinking how cool it would be if they do some Church of Anthrax stuff together.

Riley is playing the same stage, immediately before Cale, so looks very promising (I'm going).

I'm not, unfortunately, but this does look like the best festival I've seen in So Cal for a long time.

Is Even Cowgirls Get The Blues still available? He was really intense in the late 70s, did a bit of a twin guitar thing going on .
NOt sure taht's even his best from the era but him between like 76 and 81 live is pretty great, certainly up to the turn of the 80s.

I got a few sets fo his from Dime and other torrent sites that are great.

I, uh, may have written a fairly long piece on this era recently: http://www.furious.com/perfect/johncalecowgirls.html

You can check out a pretty wide selection of late 70s shows, particularly the 1979 tour, under the Cale section here:

http://tela.sugarmegs.org/alpha/j.html

that's a great read

thanks a lot! There were a couple older ilx threads that helped me first get my bearings of the era before I started digging around more to write it.

Agreed, really good piece.

I've always been fascinated by this era but never really heard anything with decent sound. Of the recordings available, are any of the boots of better quality than Cowgirls?

Reading that excellent Perfect Sound Forever article (thanks!) got me thinking. Anyone put together a better sound quality version of the "Even Cowgirls Get The Blues" bootleg? Tyler, this seems right up your alley. ;-)

agggh live Church of Anthrax?!!?? jealous!!

Seems unlikely, tbh, but there may be some Cale/Riley interaction.

Of the recordings available, are any of the boots of better quality than Cowgirls?

― Naive Teen Idol

yes, I don't have my bootlegs to hand at the moment but iirc Dallas 1976 is totally goddamn amazing and sounds WAY better, I'll go through what I have and post more this evening. Pretty sure there's also a Toronto show with a bunch of great performances in slightly lower quality.

oh I see I wrote this thing:

http://shardsofbeauty.blogspot.com/2011/01/john-cale-live-in-late-70s-got-my.html

so those shows were Dallas '79 and Philadelphia '79

I should really fix those dead links

Yes please!

gimme a day or two

There was a compilation of unreleased late 70s/80s John Cale that circulated in 2013, really great stuff and mostly better sound quality than the "Cowgirls" boot (and completely different songs).

is that the one just called "Unreleased Songs"?
yeah, cale should really do a boxed set gathering together some good live tapes from this era (Sabotage redux?). was always surprised at the lo-fi quality of Cowgirls ... great performances though.

and great article, whitehallunity! definitely is going to send me back down the rabbit hole with late 70s cale

Looks like the Danceteria cd is going for a lot of £, that's the one that I picked up in Dublin about 25 years ago.
Wondered if anybody else had picked it up after taht. I don't think I've even heard anything about ROIR itself recently.
How does Cale feel about that era? Sounds like he was pretty messed up at the time

haha, yeah, all these shows sound pretty alcoholic ... can't really remember reading his later opinions about this era.