ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

if you don't love JF for being truly, beautifully laconic then you don't truly love JF imo

haha totally. pitting basho vs. fahey is understandable but misguided I think. hard to put into words, but the more i listen to both, the more it seems like they were after completely different things.

this richard osborn album was sounding good until I got distracted with that post and now I'm listening to god time & causality. prime bit of fahey squeezing something transcendent out of familiar materials

https://richardosborn.bandcamp.com/

yeah i really dig osborn's album

there is something in how completely fahey and basho diverged that makes them pleasing to contrast in some ways tho. basho as exoticist and escapist, of everything including himself, fahey as becoming more and more familiar, always going deeper into himself

That's a great read on their differences. Totally agree

Yeah if they weren't associated personally and business wise, honestly I wouldn't really put them in the same zone, not like comparing, say Fahey and Kottke or Lang where all three are different but more aligned in general

great comparison ogmor, gonna chew on that for a while

those stories about Basho in the Fahey bio are pretty funny -- I mean, he probably was a pretty huge dork

Stereogum are streaming the new Cian Nugent album
http://www.stereogum.com/1854368/stream-cian-nugent-night-fiction-stereogum-premiere/mp3s/

Man, thanks for that Basho/Fahey rundown, definitely the shit that keeps this thread fun for the ages.

Good video of a tune from Nathan Bowles upcoming solo record. I really like his phrasing/pacing, just hits a lot of sweet spots for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AiEWshKUe8&feature=youtu.be

Man, thanks for that Basho/Fahey rundown, definitely the shit that keeps this thread fun for the ages.
― grandavis, Tuesday, January 26, 2016 11:57 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

on that note i stumbled across this group yesterday, not the most active thing in the world (also horrible to navigate) but a lot of good reflections and posts from people like rich osbourn, glenn jones, etc.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/robbiebasho_forum/info

fun topic about basho vs. fahey:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/robbiebasho_forum/conversations/topics/721

Hah hah looks like a dangerous road to go down, i.e., hours of distraction perhaps. Gonna return next time I have a blizzard at hand.

These days I'm playing more (early) Ackerman and Kottke than Fahey and Basho, but that's probably just because, like many of you, I've seriously OD'd on Fahey over the past decade or so (including reading three different books about him). I like Basho but a little goes a long way imo. Twilight Peaks is still my favorite of his.

I do seriously love Kottke's 6 and 12 String Guitar as much as any Fahey album. First Ackerman is incredible, too.

yeah Turtle's Navel is fantastic.
do i need Kottke's Ice Water? or Greenhouse?

Greenhouse, yes.

ice water was the end of my attempt to get into kottke

those yahoo groups are the real deal though, lots of veterans on there

i really like parts of Mudlark ... but mainly the instrumentals. Keep thinking I'll come around on his vocals, but it hasn't really happened yet.
this is great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh4xNFl521s

the solo version of cripple creek on fahey/kottke/lang is mb my favourite kottke thing

i feel like that and 6-and-12 string are about the only kottke i really 'need'

I've always thought that self-deprecation became structural with Kottke - like a habit he couldn't shake (certainly not something you could ever level at Basho or Fahey). It may well have been deliberate, but it ultimately means he's always a few rungs down the ladder for me.

Which is to say he had all the talent, but seemed wary of, or simply didn't have the means of, transcendence.

Weird because I understand he is (or was) one of the preeminent pot smokers of guitar soli

Maybe I'm totally misreading him and it's a kind of zen clowning or something. Ach, I dunno. I feel like I'm doing him a disservice; he's always going to seem grounded and a bit meat and potatoes next to the sheer Otherness of artists like Fahey and Basho.

Lang>Kottke IMO

feeding tube with some gorgeous reissue ish

http://feedingtuberecords.com/releases/rusalnaia/

Hmm very interesting!

yeah, don't know that one!
was just thinking that an "espers scene" box set/comp would be kind of a cool thing.

honestly feeding tube should do a subscription thing like numero i feel like i'm always interested in everything he puts out

I know, I wish I could keep up!

there was an unreleased roger miller from mission of burma album i wanted to get

That was a reissue of an old LP on Forced Exposure, and it is very good

new cian nugent up on streaming services... only partway in but i really like it. not sure how much i'd latch on to it if i didn't know he came from the '~guitar soli~~' community but thought some folks in here would appreciate

yeah, i think it's fantastic, but he's going pretty far afield from the fingerpicking scene (though there's one solo instrumental included). great guitar playing throughout, though.

yeah i guess there's something about the record that connects to this thread though- less so the fingerpicking or lack of fingerpicking and maybe more the overarching approach. i dunno. i'm no good at writing about music!

i mean, it's as relevant to the thread as the last few steve gunn records
forsyth sings a bit on his new one, too (though it's more of a side thing than on Night Fiction)

The thread goes where the thread goes, as it should.

NO! we must keep it puuuure.
speaking of which, I just finally watched the Fahey doc from a little while back -- not *bad* per se, but man, they really could've gotten better people to interview. I guess a lot of people (kottke, glenn jones, lang, etc) just didn't want to be involved? really, what would be cool is a multi-part doc (or maybe just a book) that covers the whole american primitive/takoma scene from fahey through now. who's gonna do it?!

i still wanna see a semi-fictionalized movie about fahey (or a fahey-like character). since he played so many games with his biography/persona i think it'd lend itself to a truer representation of who he was than listening to pete townshend talk about how good he was

^definitely, I've thought this

although the chances of it being abysmal are high

Gotta be some weirdo auteur with some access to capital that is a Fahey nut out there. It could be really cool or abysmal, it is true, but probably more fun than a straight bio.

speaking of "keeping it pure", been meaning to relisten to lenny breau.

ctrl+f'd him but was really surprised there was never a discussion on him.

you definitely get a different vibe than listening to fahey, but the fingerpicking is just so good.

anyone a fan?

Not heard of him, will check him out

Lenny Breau is excellent! If you have any tolerance at all for jazz playing (or even dig Django), he will be your new dude. Incredible dexterity, but also style for miles. Not really a great fit for this thread imo, but a great player nonetheless. This is the one I have (a twofer) and I listen to quite a bit:

www.discogs.com/Lenny-Breau-Five-OClock-Bells-Mo-Breau/release/7586560

yeah, you're right that he's not a right fit for this thread, but i think there might be people here who would appreciate it.

kind of reminds me a bit of chet atkins sometimes, but yeah, where *is* the appropriate thread for that stuff?

I like Django a lot sounds cool. Is it more jazz?

yeah and he throws some classical elements in there

I love Lenny Breau btw! (Would probably just go with the jazz thread for it myself. Could use more guitarists in there.)

(Also, hi guys. I've been lurking on these threads when I can.)

Listening to Gimmer Nicholson now and regretting not having lurked more.