Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

hilarious.

sorry, that was in poor taste.

http://49.media.tumblr.com/8af893162f9dd6508fde28a99898d8a2/tumblr_nd1ggfjbki1r37y87o4_500.gif

Did not assume Graham would appear, I'm guessing Lynch and Frost had little fondness for that character.

A recent rumor was that some of the show will be shot internationally.

I'll take a shot in the dark and assume that the entire first episode will be just like Lana Del Rey and Keanu Reeves having a very drawn-out conversation about Richard Nixon while fishing.

I like Annie. And Heather Graham.

A recent rumor was that some of the show will be shot internationally.

I misread this as 'A recent rumor was that some of the show will be shot unintentionally'.

I hope they stick with the pattern of Harriet Hayward turning up in the first episode.

confirmed: Naomi Watts, Tom Sizemore

Fenn is also confirmed back

wow, if i didn't trust lynch this would almost be too good to be true and reeks of fan service -- watts especially. but, wow.

Jim Belushi is also reportedly involved to counter any fan service.

I'd honestly be more concerned if Lynch wasn't engaged in some Billy Ray Cyrus-esque, out-of-left-field casting.

Jim Belushi is also reportedly involved to counter any fan service.

― Chris L, Wednesday, February 3, 2016 2:51 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hey, jim belushi has fans. maybe.

i'm weirdly psyched about belushi

http://deadline.com/2016/02/twin-peaks-ashley-judd-cast-warren-frost-reboot-showtime-1201701843/

Dang, everyone's on this show

Hasn't Jim Belushi been dead for 30 years?

Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot there were two Belushis.

Yeah, there are two Belushis. But in answer to your question, yes.

So I've been binge-watching this show over the last few weeks and apologies if this has been covered already, but... doesn't this show get about a zillion times better once the murder is solved? And what's with the episode about halfway through s2, the one where Harry Truman has a hangover and Gordon Cole falls in love with Shelly Johnson?! It's like they waited a whole season and a half to write by far the best and most hilarious episode ever...

Think the episode is called 'On the Wings Of Love'

doesn't this show get about a zillion times better once the murder is solved?

perhaps the challiest of ops

doesn't this show get about a zillion times better once the murder is solved?

You must be literally the only person on the planet to have this view! Personally, I think the latter half of S2 is not total garbage like some people seem to think it is, there are still some great moments like the Lucy/Andy/Dick Tremayne triangle drama or "Little Nicky", but no way is it better than what came before the murder was solved. Windom Earle is a poor substitute villain, and episodes like "James and the MILF" are just pointless and stupid.

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not at all. it's much better as a surreal soap opera. the murder mystery plotline hampered it. it becomes so much more weird and hilarious after that.

i didn't like James and the MILF, no that sucked. But the episode I mentioned above is blates the best of the lot. So many great moments and exchanges. What about Dale Cooper and Heather Graham?

Another thing about the later episodes - the music is a lot less intrusive. They don't keep playing the same themes ad nauseam, big emotive instrumentals (which are great bits of music, don't get me wrong) over scenes that really don't need them.

No.

between this and the wire thread is DL playing some deep troll game? Stay tuned.

you guys watch tv wrong

cool

i mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8cnL0lQzLc&feature=youtu.be

it was worth sitting through the whole thing just for this.

all of this show is brilliant. if you don't like all of s2 you don't like twin peaks.

Apparently 99% of Twin Peaks fans do not actually like it, huh

hardly 99 per cent. most people i know like s2 fine. it's a bit meandering but so much of the essence of the show is there.

I hope y'all aren't disappointed by the revival since, unlike the bulk of season 2, David Lynch is deeply involved.

I don't dislike s2 (and even love parts of it) but it's certainly weaker once Lynch wanders away. Some of the more surreal plotlines were good but stuff like James and the Temptress and Billy Zane were just tedious.

S2 has the giant, the waiter, the owls not being what they seem, meals on wheels, maddy's death/roadhouse sequence, gordon cole, the perfect final episode, dick tremayne and the greatest of all s2 plotlines, the s2 plotline "Norma's mother comes to stay"

Windom Earle is lame as shit tho

xpost You just mentioned most of the parts that I love (add also Ben Horne's Civil War obsession), and the majority of those parts were happening while Lynch was involved.

Yeah, I don't think anyone is saying all of season 2 is weak, just the latter half. IIRC one of the main writers admitted that after the network forced them to reveal Laura's murderer, there were no long-term plans for the plot, and they were just making shit up as they went along. Which is pretty easy to see during those later S2 episodes. Some of the stuff they came up with, like Tremayne, was still funny and interesting, but other things, like the MILF episode, were only tangentially related to how the show had been before the big reveal.

to me it's not as simple as dismissing the entire latter half of s2, though i agree of course that james and the older woman was awful (wasn't that while lynch was still there?)

haven't seen the film for years so i might be misremembering, but aren't there shades of Lost Highway in that James and the temptress plotline?

Lynch still appears as Gordon Cole troughout the season, but he didn't direct or write anything between the murderer reveal episode and the finale.

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A lot of those things happen before Laura's murder is resolved though. It drives off a cliff after that. The Lynch directed episodes in S2 (first two, the killer's reveal, the finale) are fantastic.

Most histories of TP that I've read say that he was mostly away from the set during the latter half of season 2, because he was shooting Wild at Heart. That would include the older woman episode too.

James left town around the same time as Lynch's departure iirc.

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I might argue that the Lynch-directed s2 episodes are better than s1.

The reveal episode certainly is one of the most memorable in American television history. The S2 finale too, but not necessarily in a good way; the Black Lodge scenes show how incoherent Lynch can get if he's given free reign, so it kinda presages the long, tiring mess that is Inland Empire.

boooooooo

the finale is awes (and so is IE)