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Just DLed this:
http://images.juno.co.uk/150/CS1223205-02A.jpg

The Quiet Village Dub version is pretty nice and deep.

― trees (treesessplode), Monday, 2 October 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i bet, i liked the lindstrom/prins thomas remix of the same song.

A quiet village album would be nice.

― hector (hector), Monday, 2 October 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, it is a different song by the same artist.

― researching ur life (grady), Monday, 2 October 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

im just waitin for one of these guys to actually title a track "mike love" or "dennis wilson"

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Monday, 2 October 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i am waiting for someone to start producing under the name "mike love or dennis wilson"

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 2 October 2006 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

that is my new band name. out goes 'the pillowtalk no-nos.' in comes 'mike love or dennis wilson.' thanks guys.

― trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

HEY DUDE

let's do a 10 minute edit of "good vibrations".

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i listened to "wild honey" all weekend, btw

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:18 (seventeen years ago) link

in the liner notes of "macro dub infection" dude claims (steve barrow?) that "mike love once dubbed out a 10-minute version of good vibrations" ....

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:18 (seventeen years ago) link

we'll do a "minimal synth" version of "windchimes" for the flip

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:19 (seventeen years ago) link

BEST IDEA EVAH

― trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Even fictitious credit is too much credit for Mike Love.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

ALLEZ ALLEZ ARE TEH SHIT

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

So how would you like to see Mike Love perish?

― dmr (Renard), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't necessarily know about teh beardo label for this one, but lfam gave me this for my birthday:
ihttp://www.banquetrecords.com/graphics/envun05.jpg

And it is fucking sweet.

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

so, nearly (good lord) 10 months on from my initial post on this thread, i remain unconvinced that this stuff is anything more than the new dancerock, the middleaged flipside of the mstrkrft/ed banger shit, with "cooler" inputs. (what sort of world have we woken up in when soft-rock is "cooler" than punk/metal.) (a: a good one.)

that said, i still love it all. even if it's the fakest dance genre ever. i want it to go EVEN MORE soft-rock/prog-rock. like a 2006 update of chill out or something.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, the more i think about it, this is like what would have happened had daft punk chosen alan parsons over michael mcdonald.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah the less of a beat this stuff has the better it gets!

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

listening to Gong's You LP from another thread, and it has beardo written all over it!

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

shabba ranks, I've actually had a weird feeling about some of this stuff too, if only because I always hated acid jazz, and a lot of beardo-y stuff approaches that same kind of MOR funkiness. and I'm also w/you wrt a cool thing that could happen to a lot of this music is to go oven further over (under?) the top

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

the question is not what makes this better than (acid jazz / trip hop / dance rock) but why you hated those things in the first place??

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

as far as ed banger / electroclash goes, well, thomas bullock WAS in ARE weapons, but i don't think there's much of a tangible connection other than both beloved by NY scenester types ... which is something, along the lines of why chemical brothers fans listened to dave clarke back in 1995, but it doesn't really show that chems = dave clarke or anything like that

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

well no i dont think there's a tangible connection at all, really. this is all theoretical rock critic mind games on my part.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

hey wait ... you have a beard, right?

HYPOCRITE

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i said i loved it, didn't i!

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i remain unconvinced that this stuff is anything more than the new dancerock

the lindstrom/prins album is just updated post-rock

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah see that's kinda exactly what i'm talking about. it's not the NEW dancerock so much as its dancerock expanding outward from JUST 78-83.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

and again, FRANCIS GRASSO, y'all. while i'm glad rub'n'tug are out there mixing shit up, i remain unconvinced this is anything NEW. (doesn't have to be "new" to be good, mind you.)

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

how popular is this stuff?

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

like it got popular among my close friends because i gave it to them but i'm sort of out of the loop right now

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

not very popular at all, i would guess.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

though popular enough to rate a fabric mix.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

basically it's the dance music equivalent of crate digging isn't it??

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

yes ... so it's acid jazz / trip hop 2006 style

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

so confusing

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i stand by my non-original "it's possible to be crate digging music and dance-rock at the same time" thesis

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah yeah blah blah big beat blah blah

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

np: "in/flux"

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

haha vahid do you want me to turn off the email notifications thing btw?

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not really sure where those email notifications are going ... i don't actually even check my hotmail, it's like a dedicated junk mail email address.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

it's not new but maybe a return to old, or just an expanding of the dance music canon...but let it be known that even as eclectic as the mixes/playlists/blogs suggest, the actual dance sets are usually almost as insular as before. Not as bad, but still. There's an aspect to some of this which is like, "I've decided this is a cool song to dance to, I DARE you to agree" knowing that of course everyone will fall in line, lest they seem rockist when sayng "no, that was crap then and it's crap now". This statement makes it seem like I agree with the latter, when I'm more in line with the former, btw. But it's also the crate-diggers joy of finding the stuff, like, everyone's bored with al lthe "disco" and "italo" and "house" or whatever but did you know this AM gold artist had a b-side recorded in jamaica that's really dubby and dancey? Did you know that even though for 20 years everyone's considered this disco crossover record was crap we've all decided it's actually cool because you know what, we like disco.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i like to think that every time we post on this thread, it's like stepping on a crack in the sidewalk and dan selzer gets a stabbing, migraine-like pain behind his eyes.

haha xpost

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

unless you're british, in which case it's the ultimate dance rockism of "oh, it's just balearic again innit"

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

re: what I hated about acid jazz in the first place: MOR

basically agreeing with the notion "it's possible to be crate digging music and dance-rock at the same time" -- see "Losing My Edge" as exhibit A, not to mention a lot of Lindstrom stuff. It does appear to be difficult, however, to produce tracks using this really mellow source material without in turn mellowing, smoothing it down even more (possibly to accomodate the extended forms of most electronic dance music?), and taking more of the edge off.

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"I've decided this is a cool song to dance to, I DARE you to agree"

i think this is an appropriate thing to say re: all the balearic stuff

xpost!!

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

why don't I understand a single thing vahid ever posts ever?

for the record...I don't remember a time A.R.E. Weapons were actually popular, even with NY hipsters. Their shows were just parties filled with their friends, and they had lots of friends, but it never seemed to go any further then that.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

generation gap??

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i have no problem with crate digging, though! even cheeseball shit. the "alchemy of the mix" and all. i actually wrote about rub'n'tug this week and my basic, uh, argument (other than that it was the new dance-rock, mostly so i could tie it to mstrkrft in the piece because they're playing here this week) (not as tenuous as you think, i swear) was that what makes them good was their "curatorial" skillz. (and the cheap trick of slowing down spoonful of leather.) (also forgot the fabric mix doesn't come out for like another month...oops.)

xpost: dan, vahid is actually like the little boy who dunks the girls pigtails in the inkwell because he secretly likes her, don't worry.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

what are peoples arguments against crate digging?

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

balearic's been a big reference point to all this, but at the same time, it has a decidedly "chilled out" aesthethic that makes it only part of the story. Cosmic is a step more diverse, weirder stuff, noisier stuff, then you get into the whole dance-punk v. 1.0 mudd club/hurrahs/danceteria/99 records etc...I'd think most of these DJs may start or end on the balearic tip, but it's all about "slamming" beats at some point in the night.

generation gap??

how old are you?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

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