http://anything2mp3.com/ works for me
― groovypanda, Saturday, 16 January 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link
thx mate
― flopson, Saturday, 16 January 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link
Yeah but ripping it will only give you the song in 128 :(
― gaz "puffy" coombes (The Reverend), Saturday, 16 January 2016 22:00 (eight years ago) link
tru
― flopson, Saturday, 16 January 2016 22:00 (eight years ago) link
on soundcloud all roads lead to bad 'trap' music
― flopson, Saturday, 16 January 2016 22:02 (eight years ago) link
128 > 0
― diana krallice (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 January 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link
also tru
― gaz "puffy" coombes (The Reverend), Saturday, 16 January 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link
http://mp3fiber.com lets you rip at 320. I use it a lot.
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 17 January 2016 01:11 (eight years ago) link
youtube-dl works for Soundcloud.
― with hidden noise, Sunday, 17 January 2016 01:11 (eight years ago) link
What's the bitrate of the soundcloud original?
― calstars, Sunday, 17 January 2016 01:52 (eight years ago) link
It's 128 as far as I can tell (so ripping it at 320 doesn't mean shit if the original source is 128, what you get is just a worse version, just bigger)
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Sunday, 17 January 2016 09:05 (eight years ago) link
(btw you don't need anything special for soundcloud, the developer tools in Firefox will tell you the URL of the mp3 file being played)
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Sunday, 17 January 2016 09:07 (eight years ago) link
It's 128 as far as I can tell
so even if you upload a wav, it converts it to 128 for playback? never really thought about that.
i've ripped a few things by opening Audacity and recording a wav as it plays on SC, no idea if that's any better than these other methods.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link
"Please be aware that we transcode all tracks to 128 kbps mp3 for streaming playback. However when you make your track downloadable, this allows your listeners to download your track in the exact format that you uploaded, without any transcoding."
(Performers will often given permission to stream something but not to make it available for download btw.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link
Well unless there's a premium version that streams WAV, yeah, I have only ever seen 128k mp3 (just like bandcamp, bands upload lossless but the streaming is only 128).
From their help page:
Please be aware that we transcode all tracks to 128 kbps mp3 for streaming playback. However when you make your track downloadable, this allows your listeners to download your track in the exact format that you uploaded, without any transcoding.
As for recording the stream, it can only be as good as the stream itself.
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link
what he said
I can confirm that the downloads are at other than 128. I downloaded a hundred aphex twin tracks and the bitrate was all over the place.
― calstars, Monday, 18 January 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link
Makes sense. I do like the ability to make tracks available for streaming but not dl, fwiw.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link
"As for recording the stream, it can only be as good as the stream itself.
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Monday, January 18, 2016 2:52 PM Bookmark Flag Post"
Not to mention, you know, the song.
― calstars, Monday, 18 January 2016 20:00 (eight years ago) link
Doomed?
http://www.factmag.com/2016/02/11/soundcloud-financial-report-44m-losses/
― groovypanda, Thursday, 11 February 2016 12:32 (eight years ago) link
It would be sad to see Soundcloud close, but afaict they still give away most of their services for free so I can see how it would be difficult to make money that way
― niels, Thursday, 11 February 2016 13:21 (eight years ago) link
i hope they don't tank
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 February 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link
an acquaintance of mine recently moved to berlin to work for them, hope he doesn't get canned. feel like they'll survive though
― flopson, Thursday, 11 February 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I do wonder how SC makes money sometimes.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 11 February 2016 20:46 (eight years ago) link
they charge you if you upload more than 3 tracks i think? i know bc i used to upload my radio sets to it and then switched to mixcloud when i hit the pay limit. otherwise no idea how they make money. ads?
― flopson, Thursday, 11 February 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link
They've never charged me.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 11 February 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link
3 hours actually
http://payments.help.soundcloud.com/customer/portal/articles/2159342-learn-about-our-pro-plans
― niels, Thursday, 11 February 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link
While SoundCloud brought in €15.37m ($17.35m) in 2014, it lost a total of €39.14m ($44.19m). Employee wages during that period also increased 42.5% to €17.9m, meaning that the average wage per employee for that year totalled €79,980.
sweet raises
― karla jay vespers, Thursday, 11 February 2016 20:51 (eight years ago) link
i wonder if they could be profitable at this point by having only subscription plans for uploaders (or lower the time limit for free plans), but be totally ad-free (and also stop dealing with the majors, so that people wouldn't have to worry about getting mixes taken down). that would be my ideal, but i know that a lot of people wouldn't feel the same way.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 11 February 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, just charge everyone a nominal fee to have a page.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:02 (eight years ago) link
an acquaintance of mine
is it the same acquaintance who's been posting about this story on twitter all afternoon?
It does seem like kind of an impossible business model for Soundcloud -- but I also wonder about Bandcamp, and frankly, I'd be MUCH more sorry to see that go, as it offers a real alternative to iTunes and physical media outlets as far as whole albums and getting to know a (new) artist's catalog.
There was a story earlier this year, or maybe late last year, about how streaming services were all essentially doomed, because it's too easy to stream for free via Youtube et al. I think Facebook was looking at starting their own streaming service, but only because they could see the writing on the wall, and thought it was better to get in now while some money was still available.
― Dominique, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link
Bandcamp feels more a proper shop that happens to let you stream the music rather than a streaming platform (and I think there's now a limit to how many times you can stream an album, so it's clearly a check-out-then-buy kind of deal, they're not supposed to be as an alternative to youtube/spotify imo).
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link
"feels more like"
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link
Without giving anything away -- this is friend of a friend level stuff, I grant -- Bandcamp is not only doing just fine but thriving more than a lot of people may guess.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link
good news! :)
― uptown garfunkel (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link
I think there's now a limit to how many times you can stream an album,
this is set by the artist btw (it's optional)
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link
Well good -- imo they're the best on the net for new music, and it's not really even close.
― Dominique, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:15 (eight years ago) link
bandcamp needs a redesign, its kinda ugly imo
― flopson, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link
yeah bandcamp is the way to go
xp oh ok I didn't know that
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link
Bandcamp feels more a proper shop that happens to let you stream the music rather than a streaming platform
agreed, which is both good and bad. Bandcamp is probably more important in the long run, but if you're starting from an audience of zero and you put something up on BC, chances are it's just going to rot out there. on SC there's a much better chance of people finding it (through followers/likes/reposts etc).
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link
Either this or allow a few ads, which I could probably live with, I guess?
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
Re: those juicy looking 80k wages - typically in NW-Europe the 'salary costs' in the company books are the costs to the employer, not the (gross) wage of the employee. Social and other charges are high and in practice the rule of thumb is that only half of the cost to the employer ends up with the employee.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link
chances are it's just going to rot out there
^^^ my songs on SC have got way more views than my BC albums. Releasing stuff on BC sometimes feels like hurling things into the void.
― bored at work (snoball), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:22 (eight years ago) link
xxxp It might not be on par with soundcloud's (which I'm not very familiar with) but there is a follow feature on bandcamp too, you can follow users and see what they buy, and stream it directly from their profile page.
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link
nah just checked his twitter feed. only tweets today were about gravity waves and a conference on free monads (go figure)
― flopson, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link
Definitely this. There's not even a comparison for me.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link
same. the people i see do really well on BC are the ones that have a loyal following and also commit to only making the music available there (not posting anything in full on Soundcloud, and going through digital distro to iTunes/Spotify/etc, at least not for awhile after release).
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link
bandcamp is for rawk, soundcloud is for beats
― flopson, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link
singer songwriter i played drums for last year was stunned at how much money she made off of bandcamp
― flopson, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link
Bandcamps search functions are terrible.
― earlnash, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:29 (eight years ago) link