"I'm a sovereign human being, I stand under common law only" - Thread of Freemen

"we had to clean up after the Oregon militia and there were dildos and lube *everywhere*!"

one should empathize with the mail(wo)men who have to interact with these lunatics.

lol did anybody actually go to the actual website where Doucette was "sworn in" as a "Superior Court judge": http://scannedretina.com/2015/05/25/public-announcement-new-superior-court-judges-steven-dean-byfield-and-bruce-doucette/

so that means these guys are essentially:

http://www.doblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/darkknightrises20248.jpg

Protester arrested in Burns, accused of driving stolen refuge vehicle

Guy claims he is not a US citizen, tries to enter a courtroom with a camera, with predictable results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMUdxNXo7QY

lol that was quick

what an asshole

a little knowledge...will get you zapped!

you know what my motto is? stay away from fucking courthouses!

Mikey Blah Blah 1 month ago
Let the record show I watched this over a dozen times.

http://gawker.com/oregon-militia-idiots-promise-to-leave-if-chris-christi-1755160817

Cheesy intro going INSTA - JUSTICE! had me a little worried that I had stumbled upon my cousin's facebook feed.

But you know what? It was entirely appropriate, I enjoyed the federal government's heavy hand of law in that one.

he sounded like a total neckbeard MRA kinda guy, too, not just an infowars stan. i was hoping to see a fedora tumble off his head and down the hallway, like that hat from miller's crossing.

'the several states'

gotta say i would feel better about that vid if the guy blocking him gave, like, a clear verbal warning before using the taser.

no way, that guy is an American hero

the guy did try to force his way into a courtroom...

At the point when a cop or enforcement officer raises his taser and takes aim at you – and you don't have a taser of your own – that's when you need to beat a hasty retreat.

maybe he got confused for a sec and thought he was a timecop?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMnPnNIyPHA

"Not-for-hire" on the door, around, unh, pretty car, got the green mask on front...

these guys with their belief that they can hack the entire american justice system with some carefully placed loopholes
i blame Law and Order

I blame Nightmare on Elm Street.

loved the "gotcha" moment the dude had when he read the bailiff dude's nametag, total pwnage

whenever i'm in a position of privilege at a venue (working ticket lists and such), this is always the tipoff that i am dealing with a king asshole

"Check again, under my first name"
"Yeah, I'm sorry; I'm not seeing it there either. Do you know who put you on the list?"
"How am I supposed to know? Just check it again."
"Well, it's not there; is there anyone you can call?"
"Who's your manager?"
"Um, I'm my own manager."
"oh yeah... WHAT'S YOUR NAME" * pulls out iPhone and points it at me as if waiting for me to start breakdancing*

That was perfect ty

At the point when a cop or enforcement officer raises his taser and takes aim at you – and you don't have a taser of your own – that's when you need to beat a hasty retreat.

― pplains, Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:21 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ehhhh i dunnnnnno. i mean obviously this is a really different context but maybe i am really sensitive to this on account of the last year and a half's public conversation about law enforcement and the use of force and so on. i mean right up until then i was really feeling the guy blocking the door, and his cool-as-fuck answers to this loon's dumbass lines. just would have really liked a "sir, i am giving you fair warning that if you make another attempt to enter this courtroom i will use this taser." it sorta looked as if only a couple seconds passed between him taking out the taser and using it, like it's totally possible someone (especially an amped-up loon clearly spieling out some scenario in his head and maybe not that plugged into reality around him) would not recognize what it was or realize it was RIGHT about to be used.

That's all fair, seriously, but he will def recognise the next one so yknow growth through experience

i think that, given the fact that it's a court setting where it's not unlikely that someone could come in looking for revenge against a lawyer / judge / plaintiff, those guys take more or less zero shit and that's honestly one of the few settings where is seems appropriate.

it prob was not the first time they had encountered that loon tho

I don't completely disagree with you DC, but take my post from the POV of just plain common sense - based upon anyone aiming a taser at you.

But that said, I do not feel in the slightest that the bailiff needed to announce some sort of Robocop warning to the man trying to forcibly gain access into a federal courtroom.

Doc Casino is otm obviously but it's important to remember that to yr Freeman the Tasing is like a kiss, it's his consummation, his raison d'etre

he also says to the guard that your laws don't apply to me

the taser applies to him

The laws of physics, though...

(xp)

the whole sub-genre of *watch me make a fool of/school this cop* youtube videos is going to have some heeeeelarious results at times. i'm not a big cop fan but i did LOL at this video in the same way i would LOL at *little kid gets knocked over by cat* on youtube.

Dunno how he squares "I am an unperson and your country's laws don't apply to me" with his rights to freedom of speech and movement.

iirc he would regard those as being natural rights of some kind as opposed to the made up maritime dc conspiracy

sooooo, he can walk anywhere does that mean i can walk into his house?

and then tase him in his house?

you know what my motto is? stay away from fucking courthouses!

― scott seward, Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:15 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a fucking men

(that was meant to be read as AMEN with the word "fucking" in between A and Men)

good work everybody itt

i DO get a kick out of the whole *I can do whatever I want I'm not a citizen!* thing. i gotta try that.

I think it's some narrow, psycho reading of the Constitution and how it treats the several states, (i.e. believing we're in some kind of Articles of Confederation deal where states are forming a union, not a single country with administrative subdivisions) crossed with some paranoid-critical interpretation of the admittedly vague provisos about citizenship. So he believes in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, but insists that you can't be a citizen of the United States, unless born in federal territory.

As for the taser and the warning... I hear what y'all are all saying. Just seems like so many of the same justifications rhyme with ones we might hear in a different setting. Like, idk, if some over-enthusiastic college kid at a protest got up in some cop's face ranting their own equally confused and cobbled-together understanding of the law and their rights, and the cop just shot or tased them without warning, would we be cool with that? Or is it specifically that this specific guy is one who all of us here would find completely insufferable? Not sure I totally agree that trying to enter a courtroom by force is different enough to require a different standard, especially since he was being barred from entry because of the camera, not because of any suspicion that he'd engage in violence once inside or something.

i'd argue that he was being barred following an attempt to forcibly enter a court.
it's certainly no explicit guarantee of safety if you DON'T do it but the fastest way to get in a terrible position is to lay hands on anybody working in a federal building that is open to the public. those guys are under high stress with long periods of boredom, wearing uncomfortable clothes and they're armed.

but yeah i hear you

"Or is it specifically that this specific guy is one who all of us here would find completely insufferable?"

this is kinda it for me...

I'm totally with you on this, Dr Casino. Much as I felt schadenfreude w/ a guilty lol, I'm kind of disturbed by how easily everyone finds justifying this.