that must've been painful
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 January 2016 23:10 (eight years ago) link
jute gyte is the sauna, it is the ice bath
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Sunday, 10 January 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link
gotta sell it somehow
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 January 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link
yeah this dude that gives his music away for free on bandcamp gotta get that brand up
― stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 11 January 2016 05:19 (eight years ago) link
STREET TEAMIN
― stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 11 January 2016 05:23 (eight years ago) link
I listened to the first half of Cosmophony last night, I appreciate what the guy does and I'd never call it bad but somehow everything he comes up with fails to make me feel anything. I've been trying for years but nothing ever clicks with me.
Regarding JG I'm not saying his older stuff doesn't have their moments but the last time I tried to listen to Vast Chains it felt more like a chore than anything. Maybe I just wasn't in the right mood.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 11 January 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link
Fair enough.
Vast Chains is amazing, especially that closing track, but it's the greyest and most forbidding of his microtonal records and should only be listened to when in the mood, yes
I suppose I haven't called Ship of Theseus my favourite metal album of all time in this thread yet, but that it is.
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Monday, 11 January 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link
Vast Chains is the one I've enjoyed the most, actually. I don't know that he's done anything that would make even my top 50 of all time but Vast Chains is so fucking audacious.
― stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 11 January 2016 19:32 (eight years ago) link
is there such thing as an instrumental (metal) Jute Gyte album? Vast Chains sound promising, but his vocal style is my least favorite vocal style & doesn't leave much room for enjoyment even when I can appreciate the backing tracks.
― small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Thursday, 18 February 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link
it's a complete one-off and not so much metal but the title track of 'discontinuities' is a microtonal guitar instrumental and you might enjoy it
― odysseus (imago), Thursday, 18 February 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link
Not to my knowledge, sorry. imo Ship of Theseus is musically a bit more engaging (more RIFFS) so it might detract from the vocals a bit more. fwiw I'm not the hugest fan of his voice either but I'm not picky when it comes to screams/growls etc
― space prophet wogan (ultros ultros-ghali), Thursday, 18 February 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link
I listened to "Discontinuities" a minute ago but it didn't do much for me. it just sounds like he left the tape recorder running as he messed around with microtones as an exercise — it's kind of anonymous and there just isn't anything interesting going on compositionally or stylistically compared to (what little I've heard of) his metal stuff. but maybe I'd change my mind if I heard it within the context of the album. I'll give Ship of Theseus a try, but I have almost no patience for metal growling unless it's buried very deep in the mix.
― small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Thursday, 18 February 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link
There are longer stretches without vocals on Ship of Theseus iirc, and I think his composition did grow more sophisticated (to the point where I don't need the vocals much of the time), but, yeah, extreme metal vocals are part of the package, generally.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 18 February 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link
Listening to Vast Chains now and wondering why I was ever down on it
― space prophet wogan (ultros ultros-ghali), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link
new album Perdurance out on the 6th of June, which is almost Satan Day 6/6/16
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 11:35 (seven years ago) link
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/jute-gyte-perdurance-stream
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 01:07 (seven years ago) link
idk if can be bothered to listen to the four tracks of this that will be added to my EOY votes before elseq1-5 assuming GFOTY doesn't release anything this year
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 4 June 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link
based on the first 3 minutes i think you'd like this more than prev works but much obliged as ever
i need to sleep soon but god here we are again
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link
i mean...damn
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 01:19 (seven years ago) link
i was all set to snark, but this is great. big leap upward from the "reflective paintings" series in terms of listenability & sonic variety. while still sounding microtonally diseased & horrid, of course.
― the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 June 2016 03:29 (seven years ago) link
Haha "At the Limit of Fertile Land" is phenomenal!
― the mood and the melanies (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 June 2016 04:18 (seven years ago) link
Laughter is fitting. This is mad...
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Saturday, 4 June 2016 07:20 (seven years ago) link
His best work yet? Has the most 'groove' of any Jute Gyte album.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 June 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link
I'll wait until I order it
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 4 June 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link
I'll order it, but first I'll listen to it.
It's obviously amazing and I haven't come close to getting my head around it yet. The opening track alone is a monster of a whole new order. Nobody comes close to this guy at the moment.
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link
ok this is another level up then
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link
im going to listen to this once the weather gets shite again
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Saturday, 4 June 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link
just listened again. "i am in athens and pericles is young" is a hell of a closer.
― the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 June 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link
opener is incredible
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 4 June 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link
that too
― the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 June 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Saturday, 4 June 2016 21:57 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not really in the mood for this anyway, confirmed by listening to about a minute of the opener. Apart from anything else the sound quality was crap so I'll wait for it to materialize on bandcamp or whatever.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 5 June 2016 12:47 (seven years ago) link
you have 1 day to wait
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Sunday, 5 June 2016 13:04 (seven years ago) link
can't even get past the first song because i keep relistening to it
― bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Sunday, 5 June 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link
towards the end of 'consciousness is nature's nightmare' it sounds like he shrieks 'let's facetime'
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Sunday, 5 June 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link
It really does. I like the Sound of Music one best at the moment.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Sunday, 5 June 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
It's on Spotify now. First listen in full with headphones and better sound quality... I can't even begin to unpack this. There are moments when it feels like the sound is being psychically implied or beamed in from afar.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 6 June 2016 09:09 (seven years ago) link
Listening again.
I love that he releases these things in the summer. I really think that he intends for them to be summer albums.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 6 June 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link
well, yes. they are, really. the heat-madness coming off the swamp...
Listening to this in higher quality and questioning whether other music really matters right now
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 10:58 (seven years ago) link
Will Julio like it though?
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Monday, 6 June 2016 11:01 (seven years ago) link
of course, but he won't admit it
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 11:02 (seven years ago) link
You say potato, he say po-tah-to.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Monday, 6 June 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link
ha trap beats morphing into insane death metal multi-limbed drum freakery on "at the limit of fertile land". tremendous stuff.
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Monday, 6 June 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link
it's up on bandcamp now. the writeup alone is incredible. read it and blush, xyzzzz
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 13:25 (seven years ago) link
pretty interesting stuff - these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 01:49 (seven years ago) link
sort of - he used to be much more BM but the rules have shifted
still, there's a big shout-out to Inquisition in the write-up, for what that's worth
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 07:16 (seven years ago) link
at the risk of sounding terribly pretentious, i consider it neoclassical maximalism in the metal song form above all
The title “Consciousness Is Nature's Nightmare” is from Cioran's Tears and Saints by way of D.F. Wallace's late masterpiece “The Suffering Channel”
Knew I recognised this! This is however, the only sentence I can even approach understanding from the liner notes. I do not know what a 4:5:6:7 ratio is, nor what a consistent 33-beat hypermeter could be, but I will trust that he knows what he's talking about.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 08:50 (seven years ago) link
the term "neoclassical" with reference to metal is something I'll probably never be on board with unless we're talking about power metal in which case ok
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link
these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, June 6, 2016 6:49 PM (Yesterday)
the vocals are the clearest point of connection. but i've never thought of jute gyte as wholly belonging to any metal subgenre. it's progressive artmusic with a debt to black metal.
― the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:38 (34 minutes ago)
afaik lj is using neoclassical in a sense other than that conventionally employed within the field of music
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link
5th track. closer is an ambient classical piece
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2019 05:34 (four years ago) link
My problem with what little I've heard of his music is that it's usually less interesting than that of his avant-garde and classical touchstones, although the cultivated art brut vibe does add something different (and very American) to the equation, bringing to mind someone like Harry Partch. I mentioned Ferneyhough earlier (because he wrote an opera on Walter Benjamin, Shadowtime, and 'Angelus Novus' is a fairly transparent allusion to the 'Theses on the Philosophy of History') and I always wonder why LJ never reps for that kind of notated maximalist stuff.
Anyway, I'm halfway through Birefringence right now and so far it's won me over, including that first track.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 08:35 (four years ago) link
simple answer: ferneyhough et al rarely recorded a definitive version of their works and released it as an object of art. my idiot consumer brain still can't deal with the notion of notated music. too many interpretations, too much responsibility on the performers. this is my failing obviously
i *can* however deal with live recordings (or live performances i attend) of previously-released material, so maybe the mere existence of a definitive version with a release date and a length is enough to validate subsequent reworkings. i also like it when artists cover other artists' songs
what am i on about, sorry
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:15 (four years ago) link
The good news is there are plenty of composer-supervised, even composer-approved recordings of 20th and 21st century works, although in Ferneyhough's case it raises inextricable paradoxes insofar as his music is all about the tension between reading, listening and playing.
I'd also like to point out that your take (which I share to some degree, as I'm still very much attached to the figure of the auteur – or autrice – regardless of art form) is distinctly un-Benjamin-esque: the aura thus no longer clings to a given performance, having shifted towards the endlessly reproducible recording itself.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link
The Brian Ferneyhough of metal.
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink
Please don't lol
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link
On account of the Benjamin reference. So I was half-joking.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link
Are you still keeping up with new 'new' music?
Not really, no, a bit sad about it but there's little to no time to invest in it. But I do want to make it to some concerts.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link
That's too bad. I've all but given up on film for similar reasons so I don't blame you.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 11:01 (four years ago) link
it's interesting that i started the thread on this artist because i absolutely and fundamentally do not understand their music
― treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link
this is more an observation about myself than jute gyte. i wish i understood some music theory.
― treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link
I sort of don't fully understand either, but it is awfully pretty
― imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
yeah, i mean sometimes i like to listen to really evil sounding black metal while thumbing through my copy of dante's inferno. jute gyte has hit this spot before -- i remember ressentiment having a really claustrophobic sound i liked. it reminds me of the time nakh corrected me for misusing the term "ressentiment" in conversation.
― treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link
His next metal album, which could be out any day now, is going to be his most aggressive yet, which I'm quite excited for.
The aleatoric and serialist methods he uses I understand both from instinct and from our private communications to be as much a means of generating creativity through restriction and formation of process as they are integral to the desired sound
― imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link
That said, both the curiosity value they generate and the mathematical pleasures of hearing for instance polytempi sync up and fall apart are not harmful to my enjoyment
― imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link
Ultimately I do think he just likes writing bangers, at least in his metal guise
― imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link
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https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/
― dow, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link
https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/mitrealit-t
― imago, Friday, 7 May 2021 07:56 (two years ago) link
The first two tracks are downright catchy in their wonkiness. I feel like I'm eventually going to be a massive fan of this dude when I finally come to appreciate 'metal vocals' more broadly, lol.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 7 May 2021 11:05 (two years ago) link
Well yeah, he's always known a tune. Prometheus Ends In Onan follows (to an extent) a familiar Gytean formula but it's a monster, a monster
― imago, Friday, 7 May 2021 11:34 (two years ago) link
Prometheus Ends In Onan is currently blowing my mind. I think even non avant-garde/Branca loving metal people could get behind this one. I'm only on track 2 but thats my take so far. Love it.
― gman59, Friday, 7 May 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link
https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/unus-mundus-patet
Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE
― imago, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 15:29 (seven months ago) link
opening track really does sound like slowed down/sped up tape
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 16:37 (seven months ago) link
Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE― imago
― imago
dugga dugga dugga
jute gyte has had nine releases since the last one i listened to, "bierefrigence"? i can't keep up :(
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:16 (seven months ago) link
Only this one and Mitrealitat are metal of those since Birefringence
This one has some quality stuff, mostly the first three tracks and Killing A Sword
― imago, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:46 (seven months ago) link
Is there a primer somewhere on this guys discography? I just used up part of a bandcamp voucher on Birefringence and Young Eagle DLs. Quite random. I already owned Ship.. and Perdurance CDs. I'm in the mood to just get it all.
― Duke, Monday, 1 January 2024 01:18 (three months ago) link
I mean, I can advise, but even I haven't heard all the purely electronic stuff (much of which is good). Jute Gyte 2024
― imago, Monday, 1 January 2024 07:30 (three months ago) link
Thanks. Realistically I'll never find the time to digest all of this. I'll dabble.
― Duke, Monday, 1 January 2024 18:49 (three months ago) link