Jute Gyte

& Discontinuities was like being thrown into an ice bath for me too, yeah

that must've been painful

jute gyte is the sauna, it is the ice bath

gotta sell it somehow

yeah this dude that gives his music away for free on bandcamp gotta get that brand up

STREET TEAMIN

I listened to the first half of Cosmophony last night, I appreciate what the guy does and I'd never call it bad but somehow everything he comes up with fails to make me feel anything. I've been trying for years but nothing ever clicks with me.

Regarding JG I'm not saying his older stuff doesn't have their moments but the last time I tried to listen to Vast Chains it felt more like a chore than anything. Maybe I just wasn't in the right mood.

Fair enough.

Vast Chains is amazing, especially that closing track, but it's the greyest and most forbidding of his microtonal records and should only be listened to when in the mood, yes

I suppose I haven't called Ship of Theseus my favourite metal album of all time in this thread yet, but that it is.

Vast Chains is the one I've enjoyed the most, actually. I don't know that he's done anything that would make even my top 50 of all time but Vast Chains is so fucking audacious.

is there such thing as an instrumental (metal) Jute Gyte album? Vast Chains sound promising, but his vocal style is my least favorite vocal style & doesn't leave much room for enjoyment even when I can appreciate the backing tracks.

it's a complete one-off and not so much metal but the title track of 'discontinuities' is a microtonal guitar instrumental and you might enjoy it

Not to my knowledge, sorry. imo Ship of Theseus is musically a bit more engaging (more RIFFS) so it might detract from the vocals a bit more. fwiw I'm not the hugest fan of his voice either but I'm not picky when it comes to screams/growls etc

I listened to "Discontinuities" a minute ago but it didn't do much for me. it just sounds like he left the tape recorder running as he messed around with microtones as an exercise — it's kind of anonymous and there just isn't anything interesting going on compositionally or stylistically compared to (what little I've heard of) his metal stuff. but maybe I'd change my mind if I heard it within the context of the album. I'll give Ship of Theseus a try, but I have almost no patience for metal growling unless it's buried very deep in the mix.

There are longer stretches without vocals on Ship of Theseus iirc, and I think his composition did grow more sophisticated (to the point where I don't need the vocals much of the time), but, yeah, extreme metal vocals are part of the package, generally.

Listening to Vast Chains now and wondering why I was ever down on it

new album Perdurance out on the 6th of June, which is almost Satan Day 6/6/16

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/jute-gyte-perdurance-stream

idk if can be bothered to listen to the four tracks of this that will be added to my EOY votes before elseq1-5 assuming GFOTY doesn't release anything this year

based on the first 3 minutes i think you'd like this more than prev works but much obliged as ever

i need to sleep soon but god here we are again

i mean...damn

i was all set to snark, but this is great. big leap upward from the "reflective paintings" series in terms of listenability & sonic variety. while still sounding microtonally diseased & horrid, of course.

Haha "At the Limit of Fertile Land" is phenomenal!

Laughter is fitting. This is mad...

His best work yet? Has the most 'groove' of any Jute Gyte album.

I'll wait until I order it

I'll order it, but first I'll listen to it.

It's obviously amazing and I haven't come close to getting my head around it yet. The opening track alone is a monster of a whole new order. Nobody comes close to this guy at the moment.

ok this is another level up then

im going to listen to this once the weather gets shite again

just listened again. "i am in athens and pericles is young" is a hell of a closer.

opener is incredible

that too

im going to listen to this once the weather gets shite again

― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Saturday, 4 June 2016 21:57 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really in the mood for this anyway, confirmed by listening to about a minute of the opener. Apart from anything else the sound quality was crap so I'll wait for it to materialize on bandcamp or whatever.

you have 1 day to wait

can't even get past the first song because i keep relistening to it

towards the end of 'consciousness is nature's nightmare' it sounds like he shrieks 'let's facetime'

It really does. I like the Sound of Music one best at the moment.

It's on Spotify now. First listen in full with headphones and better sound quality... I can't even begin to unpack this. There are moments when it feels like the sound is being psychically implied or beamed in from afar.

Listening again.

I love that he releases these things in the summer. I really think that he intends for them to be summer albums.

well, yes. they are, really. the heat-madness coming off the swamp...

Listening to this in higher quality and questioning whether other music really matters right now

Will Julio like it though?

of course, but he won't admit it

You say potato, he say po-tah-to.

ha trap beats morphing into insane death metal multi-limbed drum freakery on "at the limit of fertile land". tremendous stuff.

it's up on bandcamp now. the writeup alone is incredible. read it and blush, xyzzzz

pretty interesting stuff - these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?

sort of - he used to be much more BM but the rules have shifted

still, there's a big shout-out to Inquisition in the write-up, for what that's worth

at the risk of sounding terribly pretentious, i consider it neoclassical maximalism in the metal song form above all

The title “Consciousness Is Nature's Nightmare” is from Cioran's Tears and Saints by way of D.F. Wallace's late masterpiece “The Suffering Channel”

Knew I recognised this! This is however, the only sentence I can even approach understanding from the liner notes. I do not know what a 4:5:6:7 ratio is, nor what a consistent 33-beat hypermeter could be, but I will trust that he knows what he's talking about.

the term "neoclassical" with reference to metal is something I'll probably never be on board with unless we're talking about power metal in which case ok

these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?

― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, June 6, 2016 6:49 PM (Yesterday)

the vocals are the clearest point of connection. but i've never thought of jute gyte as wholly belonging to any metal subgenre. it's progressive artmusic with a debt to black metal.

or have i got the songs mixed up? the last song is the one i speak of

5th track. closer is an ambient classical piece

My problem with what little I've heard of his music is that it's usually less interesting than that of his avant-garde and classical touchstones, although the cultivated art brut vibe does add something different (and very American) to the equation, bringing to mind someone like Harry Partch. I mentioned Ferneyhough earlier (because he wrote an opera on Walter Benjamin, Shadowtime, and 'Angelus Novus' is a fairly transparent allusion to the 'Theses on the Philosophy of History') and I always wonder why LJ never reps for that kind of notated maximalist stuff.

Anyway, I'm halfway through Birefringence right now and so far it's won me over, including that first track.

simple answer: ferneyhough et al rarely recorded a definitive version of their works and released it as an object of art. my idiot consumer brain still can't deal with the notion of notated music. too many interpretations, too much responsibility on the performers. this is my failing obviously

i *can* however deal with live recordings (or live performances i attend) of previously-released material, so maybe the mere existence of a definitive version with a release date and a length is enough to validate subsequent reworkings. i also like it when artists cover other artists' songs

what am i on about, sorry

The good news is there are plenty of composer-supervised, even composer-approved recordings of 20th and 21st century works, although in Ferneyhough's case it raises inextricable paradoxes insofar as his music is all about the tension between reading, listening and playing.

I'd also like to point out that your take (which I share to some degree, as I'm still very much attached to the figure of the auteur – or autrice – regardless of art form) is distinctly un-Benjamin-esque: the aura thus no longer clings to a given performance, having shifted towards the endlessly reproducible recording itself.

The Brian Ferneyhough of metal.

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Please don't lol

On account of the Benjamin reference. So I was half-joking.

Are you still keeping up with new 'new' music?

Not really, no, a bit sad about it but there's little to no time to invest in it. But I do want to make it to some concerts.

That's too bad. I've all but given up on film for similar reasons so I don't blame you.

it's interesting that i started the thread on this artist because i absolutely and fundamentally do not understand their music

this is more an observation about myself than jute gyte. i wish i understood some music theory.

I sort of don't fully understand either, but it is awfully pretty

yeah, i mean sometimes i like to listen to really evil sounding black metal while thumbing through my copy of dante's inferno. jute gyte has hit this spot before -- i remember ressentiment having a really claustrophobic sound i liked. it reminds me of the time nakh corrected me for misusing the term "ressentiment" in conversation.

His next metal album, which could be out any day now, is going to be his most aggressive yet, which I'm quite excited for.

The aleatoric and serialist methods he uses I understand both from instinct and from our private communications to be as much a means of generating creativity through restriction and formation of process as they are integral to the desired sound

That said, both the curiosity value they generate and the mathematical pleasures of hearing for instance polytempi sync up and fall apart are not harmful to my enjoyment

Ultimately I do think he just likes writing bangers, at least in his metal guise

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https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/

His next metal album, which could be out any day now, is going to be his most aggressive yet, which I'm quite excited for.

https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/mitrealit-t

The first two tracks are downright catchy in their wonkiness. I feel like I'm eventually going to be a massive fan of this dude when I finally come to appreciate 'metal vocals' more broadly, lol.

Well yeah, he's always known a tune. Prometheus Ends In Onan follows (to an extent) a familiar Gytean formula but it's a monster, a monster

Prometheus Ends In Onan is currently blowing my mind. I think even non avant-garde/Branca loving metal people could get behind this one. I'm only on track 2 but thats my take so far. Love it.

https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/unus-mundus-patet

Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE

opening track really does sound like slowed down/sped up tape

Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE

― imago

dugga dugga dugga

jute gyte has had nine releases since the last one i listened to, "bierefrigence"? i can't keep up :(

Only this one and Mitrealitat are metal of those since Birefringence

This one has some quality stuff, mostly the first three tracks and Killing A Sword

Is there a primer somewhere on this guys discography? I just used up part of a bandcamp voucher on Birefringence and Young Eagle DLs. Quite random. I already owned Ship.. and Perdurance CDs. I'm in the mood to just get it all.

I mean, I can advise, but even I haven't heard all the purely electronic stuff (much of which is good). Jute Gyte 2024

Thanks. Realistically I'll never find the time to digest all of this. I'll dabble.