Jute Gyte

come chill with lonnie liston smith instead, it's better for you

ahh yes...excellent.

there was a thread where ppl were clowning lj for liking this stuff right

I like Dialectics.

crüt gyte

I like Ressentiment a lot. It sounds like really claustrophobic black metal, music for the crypt rather than the wilderness under a funeral moon

The only problem I have with Ship of Theseus is that when I go back to his older bm stuff it sounds so monotonous and grey to me, I always struggled with them tbh. Kind of like I always felt that I SHOULD enjoy BaN, who bore me silly.

I like Ressentiment a lot. It sounds like really all claustrophobic black metal, music for the crypt rather than the wilderness under a funeral moon

― starkiller based god (Treeship), Sunday, 10 January 2016 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fixed

What about the microtones

I raised this on some other thread.

why are we talking about this shit again?

Bc the mods approved this new thread for publication

Suggest ban all mods

so much hate, so much insecurity

That's a good opening line for a bm song

or board desc

This darts match was shit

^ If you don't the above belongs in this thread think again

Pain And Wrath Are The Slingers

The only problem I have with Ship of Theseus is that when I go back to his older bm stuff it sounds so monotonous and grey to me, I always struggled with them tbh. Kind of like I always felt that I SHOULD enjoy BaN, who bore me silly.

― ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, January 10, 2016 11:03 AM (3 hours ago)

I get this actually, and Ship is def my favorite thing he's done, but I still gotta give it up for Discontinuities which has two of my favorite metal songs ever (Romanticism, Supreme Fictions) and is ultimately is the album that helped me start to get over my bias against metal that wasn't stoner or space

Ultros, have you heard 777: Cosmosophy? Opening track especially. Sounds like no other BaN I've heard; is awesome

& Discontinuities was like being thrown into an ice bath for me too, yeah

that must've been painful

jute gyte is the sauna, it is the ice bath

gotta sell it somehow

yeah this dude that gives his music away for free on bandcamp gotta get that brand up

STREET TEAMIN

I listened to the first half of Cosmophony last night, I appreciate what the guy does and I'd never call it bad but somehow everything he comes up with fails to make me feel anything. I've been trying for years but nothing ever clicks with me.

Regarding JG I'm not saying his older stuff doesn't have their moments but the last time I tried to listen to Vast Chains it felt more like a chore than anything. Maybe I just wasn't in the right mood.

Fair enough.

Vast Chains is amazing, especially that closing track, but it's the greyest and most forbidding of his microtonal records and should only be listened to when in the mood, yes

I suppose I haven't called Ship of Theseus my favourite metal album of all time in this thread yet, but that it is.

Vast Chains is the one I've enjoyed the most, actually. I don't know that he's done anything that would make even my top 50 of all time but Vast Chains is so fucking audacious.

is there such thing as an instrumental (metal) Jute Gyte album? Vast Chains sound promising, but his vocal style is my least favorite vocal style & doesn't leave much room for enjoyment even when I can appreciate the backing tracks.

it's a complete one-off and not so much metal but the title track of 'discontinuities' is a microtonal guitar instrumental and you might enjoy it

Not to my knowledge, sorry. imo Ship of Theseus is musically a bit more engaging (more RIFFS) so it might detract from the vocals a bit more. fwiw I'm not the hugest fan of his voice either but I'm not picky when it comes to screams/growls etc

I listened to "Discontinuities" a minute ago but it didn't do much for me. it just sounds like he left the tape recorder running as he messed around with microtones as an exercise — it's kind of anonymous and there just isn't anything interesting going on compositionally or stylistically compared to (what little I've heard of) his metal stuff. but maybe I'd change my mind if I heard it within the context of the album. I'll give Ship of Theseus a try, but I have almost no patience for metal growling unless it's buried very deep in the mix.

There are longer stretches without vocals on Ship of Theseus iirc, and I think his composition did grow more sophisticated (to the point where I don't need the vocals much of the time), but, yeah, extreme metal vocals are part of the package, generally.

Listening to Vast Chains now and wondering why I was ever down on it

new album Perdurance out on the 6th of June, which is almost Satan Day 6/6/16

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/jute-gyte-perdurance-stream

idk if can be bothered to listen to the four tracks of this that will be added to my EOY votes before elseq1-5 assuming GFOTY doesn't release anything this year

based on the first 3 minutes i think you'd like this more than prev works but much obliged as ever

i need to sleep soon but god here we are again

i mean...damn

i was all set to snark, but this is great. big leap upward from the "reflective paintings" series in terms of listenability & sonic variety. while still sounding microtonally diseased & horrid, of course.

Haha "At the Limit of Fertile Land" is phenomenal!

Laughter is fitting. This is mad...

His best work yet? Has the most 'groove' of any Jute Gyte album.

I'll wait until I order it

I'll order it, but first I'll listen to it.

It's obviously amazing and I haven't come close to getting my head around it yet. The opening track alone is a monster of a whole new order. Nobody comes close to this guy at the moment.

ok this is another level up then

im going to listen to this once the weather gets shite again

just listened again. "i am in athens and pericles is young" is a hell of a closer.

opener is incredible

'birefringence' out july 1st. gird yourselves

Hammershøi represent.

would love to attend an exhibition of the paintings he uses for covers

I'd watch that, imagine if he'd get those all in one museum!

Stoked for the new album. Reading the wiki on 'birefringence' gave me a blank stare for about five minutes straight, I trust the album to make more sense.

would it make more sense if i told you birefringence or double refraction is a key concept in pynchon's 'against the day', which i basically made jute gyte read lol

So you're the culprit/philanthropist.

we all need a little more dual-reality in our lives tbh

More of an infinite fractal reality man myself but yeah.

ahaha... see, a Jute Gyte I can handle (unlike many). An Imago-infected Jute Gyte though? Sign me up!

announcing an album in advance....he's going corporate on us

fifth track of this is some kind of insane slowcore electro trap lullaby

Is this not on bandcamp?

spotify, bandcamp will be up any minute now

can't get over The Foam That Flows From The Mouths Of Wild Boars, it's as tt said 'basically a Katie Dey song' but there's Low and whatnot in there too

here https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/birefringence

Thanks!

The central portion of "Dissected Grace" is drawn from William Blake's Europe: A Prophecy. This album is additionally indebted to Morag Josephine Grant's Serial Music, Serial Aesthetics; Thomas Pynchon's Against the Day; Carlo Michelstaedter's Persuasion & Rhetoric; Keiji Nishitani's The Self-Overcoming of Nihilism; Walter Benjamin; György Lukács; James Tenney; Robinson Jeffers."

Walter Benjamin!

The Brian Ferneyhough of metal.

it isn't quite metal or anything else but the 'insane slowcore electro trap lullaby' that is The Foam That Flows From The Mouths Of Wild Boars is more or less the most stunning thing I've heard in a very long time, and I want everyone on ILM to hear it

Wasn't sure about the first track but the rest sounded very good.

the song imago speaks of goes absolutely nowhere

or have i got the songs mixed up? the last song is the one i speak of

5th track. closer is an ambient classical piece

My problem with what little I've heard of his music is that it's usually less interesting than that of his avant-garde and classical touchstones, although the cultivated art brut vibe does add something different (and very American) to the equation, bringing to mind someone like Harry Partch. I mentioned Ferneyhough earlier (because he wrote an opera on Walter Benjamin, Shadowtime, and 'Angelus Novus' is a fairly transparent allusion to the 'Theses on the Philosophy of History') and I always wonder why LJ never reps for that kind of notated maximalist stuff.

Anyway, I'm halfway through Birefringence right now and so far it's won me over, including that first track.

simple answer: ferneyhough et al rarely recorded a definitive version of their works and released it as an object of art. my idiot consumer brain still can't deal with the notion of notated music. too many interpretations, too much responsibility on the performers. this is my failing obviously

i *can* however deal with live recordings (or live performances i attend) of previously-released material, so maybe the mere existence of a definitive version with a release date and a length is enough to validate subsequent reworkings. i also like it when artists cover other artists' songs

what am i on about, sorry

The good news is there are plenty of composer-supervised, even composer-approved recordings of 20th and 21st century works, although in Ferneyhough's case it raises inextricable paradoxes insofar as his music is all about the tension between reading, listening and playing.

I'd also like to point out that your take (which I share to some degree, as I'm still very much attached to the figure of the auteur – or autrice – regardless of art form) is distinctly un-Benjamin-esque: the aura thus no longer clings to a given performance, having shifted towards the endlessly reproducible recording itself.

The Brian Ferneyhough of metal.

― pomenitul, Monday, 1 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Please don't lol

On account of the Benjamin reference. So I was half-joking.

Are you still keeping up with new 'new' music?

Not really, no, a bit sad about it but there's little to no time to invest in it. But I do want to make it to some concerts.

That's too bad. I've all but given up on film for similar reasons so I don't blame you.

it's interesting that i started the thread on this artist because i absolutely and fundamentally do not understand their music

this is more an observation about myself than jute gyte. i wish i understood some music theory.

I sort of don't fully understand either, but it is awfully pretty

yeah, i mean sometimes i like to listen to really evil sounding black metal while thumbing through my copy of dante's inferno. jute gyte has hit this spot before -- i remember ressentiment having a really claustrophobic sound i liked. it reminds me of the time nakh corrected me for misusing the term "ressentiment" in conversation.

His next metal album, which could be out any day now, is going to be his most aggressive yet, which I'm quite excited for.

The aleatoric and serialist methods he uses I understand both from instinct and from our private communications to be as much a means of generating creativity through restriction and formation of process as they are integral to the desired sound

That said, both the curiosity value they generate and the mathematical pleasures of hearing for instance polytempi sync up and fall apart are not harmful to my enjoyment

Ultimately I do think he just likes writing bangers, at least in his metal guise

This Friday, March 5, I will donate 100% of sales to GLAD.

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https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/

His next metal album, which could be out any day now, is going to be his most aggressive yet, which I'm quite excited for.

https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/mitrealit-t

The first two tracks are downright catchy in their wonkiness. I feel like I'm eventually going to be a massive fan of this dude when I finally come to appreciate 'metal vocals' more broadly, lol.

Well yeah, he's always known a tune. Prometheus Ends In Onan follows (to an extent) a familiar Gytean formula but it's a monster, a monster

Prometheus Ends In Onan is currently blowing my mind. I think even non avant-garde/Branca loving metal people could get behind this one. I'm only on track 2 but thats my take so far. Love it.

https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/unus-mundus-patet

Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE

opening track really does sound like slowed down/sped up tape

Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE

― imago

dugga dugga dugga

jute gyte has had nine releases since the last one i listened to, "bierefrigence"? i can't keep up :(

Only this one and Mitrealitat are metal of those since Birefringence

This one has some quality stuff, mostly the first three tracks and Killing A Sword

Is there a primer somewhere on this guys discography? I just used up part of a bandcamp voucher on Birefringence and Young Eagle DLs. Quite random. I already owned Ship.. and Perdurance CDs. I'm in the mood to just get it all.

I mean, I can advise, but even I haven't heard all the purely electronic stuff (much of which is good). Jute Gyte 2024

Thanks. Realistically I'll never find the time to digest all of this. I'll dabble.