Unknown, vaguely Cardiacsy prog-pop that only MaresNest and I actually like

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Reading the Youtube comments for her new videos is amazing, like, people just don't know what to do

I listened to some of her early stuff and it's just the most mundane music on Earth. Clearly she was made to do it by her seniors. Fuck you, this is what I sound like now! :D

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link

when did she make the leap to this? I found some of her old videos too and she is just shockingly bland, I've never heard of anyone making a jump quite like that

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link

She was the 16 year-old daughter of a noted Taiwanese pop producer when the early stuff came out. He probably 'encouraged' her to 'launch' her own career with these 'tasteful' covers and rip-offs.

Then she, uh, broke free.

The videos for the whole album are amazing btw

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link

She's apparently come out and completely disowned her early stuff. Good on her

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link

I would guess 2011's "Adventures of Bernie the Schoolboy" is probably the start, check this out, it's like Guernica:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUxzL6IGA7s

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

ah yeah, nice

it seems she's just been getting better and better though. this new album is sensational

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link

pretty much anything I can find on her only covers her music from 2008-2009. clearly she was quite popular which makes the whole thing a lot more fun. I always hoped that some big pop star over here would do something like that, I guess Miley Cyrus is the most likely candidate right now but I haven't found her "out there" stuff to be all that exciting thus far.

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link

well, check this out

https://www.reddit.com/r/iama/comments/k3vbe/i_am_a_taiwanese_celebrity_ama

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

yes! haha, I've covered Sparks "This Town Ain't Big Enough for the Both of Us" using purely the voice of Skeletor at a music festival. I think all the "Joanna Wang" fans were like ????. But the next day the reviews in the papers still said it was a soothing performance. It's moments like when I just feel like I must be the last sane person on the planet.

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link

haha god

yeah she seems fairly singular. still has a sony contract, my god

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

Apparently she's internet friends with Neil Cicierega, which explains a lot.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link

And she recorded this cover of his song Bill Watterson back in 2007.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link

This will likely only make sense to frogbs.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link

apparently a TMBG fan as well. this hits a little too close to home, now I wonder if she does know about Cardiacs because I can't imagine someone more predisposed to go bonkers over them

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 21:42 (eight years ago) link

and Neil's tumblr JUST NOW has a post about her? what the hell is going on!?

b0bbarker asked: Did you recently possess the body of a Taiwanese woman named Joanna Wang and release an album last year called Bob Music? Because it sure sounds like you did. And by that I mean go look up songs like Truckin Everyday and When I Nod.

NO LIE, I’ve been internet pals with her for years! She sent me an acoustic cover of Bill Watterson back in 2007. We catch up over gchat every couple months and share what we’ve been working on.

She’s had a really interesting career: She debuted as a very successful singer in Taiwan, mostly of mainstream-sounding covers. But over the past several years she’s totally reinvented herself as this eclectic, synthy baroque pop monster.

frogbs, Thursday, 7 January 2016 02:33 (eight years ago) link

Oh that's easy to explain. I'm b0bbarker, and I too am kind of internet pals with Neil, going back his animutation days and was the one who asked him the question on Tumblr. We also used to share crazy stuff together, back when I used to make really silly mashup mixes, which he had cited as kind of being the influence for Mouth Sounds.

MarkoP, Thursday, 7 January 2016 04:24 (eight years ago) link

hah, I remember some of your stuff from way back in the day! I think I have an Aaron Ackerson CD with one of your remixes on it. I figured it had to be someone from here!

I always thought Neil was capable of making something that would fit right in this thread but he just seems to be doing so much at once. dude's pretty talented though

frogbs, Thursday, 7 January 2016 04:51 (eight years ago) link

Yep. I'm on the Sexiest Man on Earth.

MarkoP, Thursday, 7 January 2016 05:09 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

pretty much anything I can find on her only covers her music from 2008-2009. clearly she was quite popular which makes the whole thing a lot more fun. I always hoped that some big pop star over here would do something like that, I guess Miley Cyrus is the most likely candidate right now but I haven't found her "out there" stuff to be all that exciting thus far.

― frogbs, Wednesday, January 6, 2016 4:51 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I feel like there are some similarities in the strange career path of Charlotte Church - million-selling classical music star to a kind of Welsh Bjork, putting out obscure, personal music heard by very few.

I mean honestly, who could've predicted the Voice Of An Angel would end up recording stuff as odd as this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhrBm6WuIsI

Pheeel, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:22 (eight years ago) link

i keep saying it but i was at school with her long-term partner (he wasn't back then) and he was the world's biggest radiohead fan, so it was always coming

ZESTY O'PRIDE (imago), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link

that song there^ gets interesting in its last 5 seconds, then ends. that should have been how it started haha

ZESTY O'PRIDE (imago), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link

But there's so much going on it! The strings, the tempo shifts, the weird jazzy flourishes. I don't like everything she's done since "breaking out" - she still Bonnie Tylers it up a bit too much on the choruses for my liking - but I'm always intrigued by what she's going to do next.

Pheeel, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:44 (eight years ago) link

ok fine, the last minute as a whole was quite something

ZESTY O'PRIDE (imago), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link

the EP she did after ^that one reminded me of Dirty Projectors in parts iirc, it was decent

Skaciety (pronounced the way you'd pronounce society) (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link

I didn't know about this direction she went in, but it makes sense since her Quietus bakers dozen choices were surprisingly good. I just knew about the earliest stuff and her couple of singles chart pop songs that I didn't like.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 13:38 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Posted about this Lemon Demon album earlier, but actually, this was the right place all along:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LeSFBy2bZU

propaganda for the American springtime (tangenttangent), Monday, 11 April 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link

https://jlarcombe.bandcamp.com/

MaresNest, Monday, 11 April 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link

Lemon Demon of course being Neil Cicierega, the missing link between Cardiacs and Joanna Wang (he loves them, she loves him). Will check out that J Larcombe thing presently...

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 11 April 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link

Please allow me to big-up / draw your attention to Mr Sterile Assembly, particularly the album Transit. Kinetic compound time-sigs, twin basses, sax skronk, some gamelan thing, female / male vocals, "political" lyrics that aren't totally shit. Just ideal and excellent in its own way, really.

http://mrsterileassembly.bandcamp.com/album/transit

Noel Emits, Monday, 18 April 2016 13:25 (eight years ago) link

This Heaty prog-pop

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 18 April 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link

I mean, it's pretty good! Not remotely Cardiacsy but hey, you got my attention :)

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 18 April 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

Well, vaguely. They posted the video for Stella on the Cardiacs Facebook page a while back, so they are at least 'aware'. Also toured with Uz Jsme Doma, I think. Or attempted to. But yes, This Heat is a good reference point. I dig it a lot, anyway.

Noel Emits, Monday, 18 April 2016 22:00 (eight years ago) link

Big Cardiacsy week - new Knifeworld AND new Display Team! The latter is fucking amazing and VERY Cardiacstastic: https://thedisplayteam.bandcamp.com/album/shifts

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 25 April 2016 10:31 (eight years ago) link

I admit I haven't really felt what Knifeworld have been doing since the Clairvoyant Fortnight EP. That and the first album are wonderful though.

What little I've been able to hear of The Display Team seems good, getting heavy Uz Jsme Doma vibes more than anything else.

ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 25 April 2016 11:12 (eight years ago) link

yeah I'm not 100% on this Knifeworld or the last one, although I did listen to the last one again recently and it was better this time so who knows, they might have become a grower band

I was at The Display Team's album launch the other night, they were really really great and so were Thumpermonkey, whose definitely-going-to-be-incredible album isn't coming for like another half-year ffs

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 25 April 2016 11:14 (eight years ago) link

I recently relistened to both the Knifeworld discs I have, Buried Alone is still great, The Unraveling I'm still not 100% on though I think that's mostly down to the production. Just really trebly and quiet in a way that flattens the drums. But it is pretty good because the tunes are really clever, once you start to get into them a bit. "Don't Land On Me" is definitely my favorite. Guess I'll give this new one a listen as soon as it arrives.

frogbs, Monday, 25 April 2016 12:47 (eight years ago) link

Lemon Demon - Spirit Phone is still the best Cardiacsy album of the year, probably. (Best album full stop?) Come on, we can't let a Yank eclipse us all ffs! ;)

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 28 April 2016 09:56 (eight years ago) link

I'm a little behind on recent developments, so glad of this thread

MaresNest, Thursday, 28 April 2016 10:23 (eight years ago) link

The Display Team reminds me very much of The Monsoon Bassoon

MaresNest, Thursday, 28 April 2016 10:27 (eight years ago) link

^ Yes, I did enjoy that and bought it, it hit all the right buttons and never falls in love with it's own quirkiness

...speaking if which, kinda, recently I got this CD of this weird Japanese band which I rather like but their approach to sensory overload is pretty muddled compared to Cardiacs.

This isn't on the record I have but the sample at 0:16 second mark should be awfully familiar. The video's NSFW btw (snatches of cartoon dick...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK0Zu2B_kak&ab_channel=ncnvid

But this song's legitimately a CHOOON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw6bcGr3Shs&ab_channel=BounDEETube

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:21 (eight years ago) link

Fuck I thought I worked out how to not embed things but obviously not

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:22 (eight years ago) link

Lemon Demon - Spirit Phone is still the best Cardiacsy album of the year, probably. (Best album full stop?) Come on, we can't let a Yank eclipse us all ffs! ;)

It's been real fun to watch this guy's chief influence go from They Might be Giants to Devo to Sparks to Cardiacs. If this gets serious AOTY consideration (and it should!) I'd be thrilled.

frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link

lol @ that sample + what was onscreen while it occurred

You mean Lemon Demon, right? (to ultros)

Cicierega's clearly spent a helluva long time on this record (like, to the extent where his video output has visibly diminished). It sounds absolutely magnificent.

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:44 (eight years ago) link

No I was talking about Display Team, haven't listened to Lemon Demon yet

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link

Oh ok! Both might end up in my year-end top 5 TBH, alongside KING, Thumpermonkey and some mad metal

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:52 (eight years ago) link

by the way I got the new Knifeworld and I like it on first listen. songs are catchier and more distinct, and the songs are plenty ambitious without being long. if nothing else check out the leadoff track/single

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzXVxOT8an0

frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:58 (eight years ago) link

yah I'm about to give the Knifeworld a full listen

this second Hosome track is great! :D will definitely check them out more

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 28 April 2016 14:07 (eight years ago) link

Okay permit me a faint derail in tonality.

Skeletons have a new record out, I'm a big fan of their steez, the record People especially and some people here may dig.

Grandma from 'People'

https://skeletonstv.bandcamp.com/album/people

Track from the new rekkid.

https://skeletonstv.bandcamp.com/album/am-i-home

MaresNest, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:51 (eight years ago) link

Here's a Lemon Demon track I've really been digging lately. Feelin' like Sparks could've written this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JniShTWwJn4

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 03:43 (eight years ago) link

OK I finally listened to Lemon Demon, some of it I kind of enjoy and some of it I profoundly hate, but have a weird urge to keep listening to it. Fuck. Must say I can't hear any Cardiacs in it at all, Devo and Sparks comparisons are about right.

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:55 (eight years ago) link


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