THE GAME OF THRONES/ASOIAF SPOILER THREAD (WARNING: SPOILERS)

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (1417 of them)

Becoming rich in old age probably has something to do with this

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 4 January 2016 19:27 (three years ago) link

I don't know, he writes books that are about 3 times longer than normal books in about 5 years. That seems pretty decent.

sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Monday, 4 January 2016 19:40 (three years ago) link

Plus writing and editing lots of other books too.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 4 January 2016 19:51 (three years ago) link

oh wow, they are still publishing Wild Cards books

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2016 19:54 (three years ago) link

he writes books that are about 3 times longer than normal books

Again: why do the books have to be so fucking long? I read the first two books, but I've seen the whole series to date, and there's very little of the books I miss, just more minutia and mythology. The show is just so ruthlessly efficient compared to the prose.

Anyway, if this guy really does have an idea how he wants it all to end, I wonder if it is indeed the show that's thrown him off. That is, maybe the joy of discovery in writing, as he's writing, might have fizzled out after he essentially "wrote" the entire series for the show runners. That's a lot more intense than an outline, that's really bringing others along on an entire journey, locking in the narrative (at least to an extent), then basically going backwards and starting the trip again, while struggling to catch up with the people you gave a head start. It's got to be dispiriting to have someone else usurp your creative momentum.

Incidentally, I just re-read the Harry Potter series with my daughter, and sure, they're I think on their face much better, imo, but more importantly they rarely seem so rambling and focused on pointless minutia, as full of pointless minutia as they may be. There's a clear quest from the start, more or less, and it all comes together tightly in the end. That's seven books in 10 years, a couple of them pretty big, and they never read like the whole narrative is spilling out of control.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 January 2016 20:21 (three years ago) link

he's mad that ppl figured out his marquee reveal so easily and he is stalling while he tries to figure out a plausible alternative.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 4 January 2016 20:28 (three years ago) link

That's possible, too! It'd be like coming up with a cool story and boasting about it, and then some 10-year old boy is all "what, he's a ghost who has been dead the whole time?" And then you just deflate.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 January 2016 20:30 (three years ago) link

Anyway, if this guy really does have an idea how he wants it all to end, I wonder if it is indeed the show that's thrown him off. That is, maybe the joy of discovery in writing, as he's writing, might have fizzled out after he essentially "wrote" the entire series for the show runners. That's a lot more intense than an outline, that's really bringing others along on an entire journey, locking in the narrative (at least to an extent), then basically going backwards and starting the trip again, while struggling to catch up with the people you gave a head start. It's got to be dispiriting to have someone else usurp your creative momentum.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, January 4, 2016 12:21 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's something to this imo. not fussed about it either way tbh. looking forward to the season, happy to read the book whenever it shows up.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 4 January 2016 20:44 (three years ago) link

The main benefit of the show finishing first is that he can use all the response to improve upon it. I can't imagine he'll feel the same pressure when the show finishes in 2017.

I'm pretty excited about the 6th season but I can't help but feel it'll suffer for not having finished books, intense fan discussion and hindsight to work upon.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 4 January 2016 21:17 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmrA8nOZF2Q

Gee, maybe Jon really is dead!

La Lechazunga (Leee), Monday, 15 February 2016 21:23 (three years ago) link

well Tyrion too if that's to be believed? was that some many faced God ref?

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 09:13 (three years ago) link

I think Dany's one of the faces too, so they're probably overplaying the Anyone Can Die card.

La Lechazunga (Leee), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:17 (three years ago) link

Can they only disguise themselves with the faces of the dead?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:19 (three years ago) link

I think they were just using the cool room with the faces as a visual motif, and it has nothing to do with whether the characters are dead/gonna die/whatever

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:29 (three years ago) link

Oh soz yeah I didnt take it as interpreting that theyre all gonna die.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 22:51 (three years ago) link

hey guys

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 22:58 (three years ago) link

winter is coming

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 22:58 (three years ago) link

oh sweet i can finally read this thread

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 23:00 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

http://imgur.com/a/mrrK4

grrm's original outline to the publishers for the asoiaf "trilogy"

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 20 June 2016 14:08 (three years ago) link

lol really hope that love triangle's still happening.

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 20 June 2016 14:26 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Sigh

schwantz, Friday, 19 August 2016 23:12 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Yeah, that made me chuckle as well.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 21:18 (one year ago) link

And it's going to be TWO volumes. Except I'm sure that he's going to expand it to 3+, without ever finishing them.

Twyla Thwoorp (Leee), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 21:44 (one year ago) link

I've been fairly positive for quite a while that Winds of Winter will never see the light of day during his lifetime. This news is a good indication that's what's happening. I don't get people who are highly anticipating it like it will come out any day now. My brother-in-law refuses to watch the two most recent seasons of GoT until the rest of the books come out. Insane.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 21:58 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwa6xgIZCv8

omar little, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 22:15 (one year ago) link

I love the cinematography of that film

Frederik B, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 22:32 (one year ago) link

Martin has somehow achieved the almost impossible task of making a civil war between people with dragons seem dull, with dry prose that would fit right alongside Gibbon’s famed work.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 26 April 2018 01:17 (one year ago) link

Impossible task?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 27 April 2018 18:41 (one year ago) link

I can't wait for his 10,000 page Westeros cookbook.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:44 (one year ago) link

The asiof cookbook is actually really good imo

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:51 (one year ago) link

i have eaten a couple dishes from it tbrr

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Friday, 27 April 2018 19:50 (one year ago) link

I can't wait for his 10,000 page Westeros cookbook.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, April 27, 2018 6:44 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

look, we're all excited for winds of winter

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 27 April 2018 19:54 (one year ago) link

I don't know if I'll ever read this series but I'm glad he's just writing what he feels like.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 27 April 2018 20:20 (one year ago) link

The Winds of Winter blew strong across the Plains of Abaranth. Kornth, the boy, looked up at Twer, the Dwarf, his master.

"The Winds of Winter blow strong today," said the boy.

"Yes," said the dwarf to his charge. "And it is still only summer."

"But winter is coming," said the boy.

"It is," said the dwarf, upping the pace of his stride, as much to counter the chill and as to reach his destination that much faster.

"Are we there yet?" asked the boy.

"Not far now," said the dwarf, bracing himself against another blast of cold air. The journey had been long, too long, already, and his stomach announced its presence with ever greater frequency, as if angry at the absence of sustenance. Twer tried his best to ignore it, but he could not resist its impatience call, and his mind brought him back to more bountiful times. He recalled his mother in the kitchen, cooking from a great book based on food found in several tomes of ancient legend. He remembered long nights at the long table, watching his father eat is weight in roast boar and banana pudding, washed down with ample pours of Swamp Drink. But that was a different time, a time before dragons. During the feasts, full of stories and mirth, no one ever thought the dragons would return. And now, no one ever thought the dragons would ever leave. They were like demanding house guests with unfathomable appetites and unappeasable demands, the stuff of myth for dietary needs alone who now made their nests in the charred bones of their former hosts, the skeletal remnants of the world as it was before.

That is why Twer walked as fast as his short legs would take him, and that is why Korth the boy raced to keep up. The boy was the key. That is what the Red Prophecy declared, and even if Twer had his personal doubts, his desperation was such that he was willing to put his faith in the prospects of this small child, this soon to be young man, this future king who had once faced down a dragon ... and lived.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 20:31 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Been a long time since I posted itt, but watching the shows has made me think about the books again.

I laughed to see GRRM putting out an angry blog about how he has not finished the books:

That seems to be happening right now. All of a sudden this crazy story about my finishing THE WINDS OF WINTER and A DREAM OF SPRING years ago is popping up everywhere. No, I am not going to provide links. I don’t want to reward purveyors of misinformation with hits.

I will, however, say for the record — no, THE WINDS OF WINTER and A DREAM OF SPRING are not finished. DREAM is not even begun; I am not going to start writing volume seven until I finish volume six

It seems absurd to me that I need to state this. The world is round, the Earth revolves around the sun, water is wet…


...and GRRM will never finish the books. It’s a shame because the last episode spoilers I’ve read are so crazy that there’s no way he should have let it get to this position. Oh well!

gyac, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 10:11 (four months ago) link

If he ever finishes the books and they turn out to be reasonably good, there will inevitably be a clamour for a TV adaptation of them

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 11:50 (four months ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.