Ex Machina: The Motion Picture

and of course he wasnt just a neutral innocent he went out of his way to help her

Ava seems to be capable of perceiving utility in learning as an end in itself, if so, then she would arrive at utility calculations that aren't the same as a true sociopath.

― El Tomboto, Wednesday, December 30, 2015 5:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eesh

if Caleb ever tells anyone about her true nature, intentionally or otherwise, she's recycling. No?

Anyway that the ideas and events in this film stuck with me for this many months even though I only ever saw it on an airplane screen does point to it being pretty good though

Sorry this movie creeped me the fuck out! I gotta make up reasons why Ava is not going to show up at my house and murder my whole family

caleb is def more dangerous to her alive than dead but the calculation she made re killing him is one only the most callous human wld

there is a lot more going on in it than i first thought, for sure

xp haha

her killing him bcz he is lame would have been fine by me

shes prob gonna be found out anyway too via the post mortem investigation on that lab, wonder if she took some replacement faces with her, also a charging station lol

haha I hadn't even thought of that - yeah how is she powered?

feel like taking him with her wldve actually been smarter so he cld help her adjust to the world, guess she was pretty naive tho

Is there a reason why Ava couldn't have killed Nathan and stolen his key card any of the times that he came into her room? Was it not possible, or was it just less likely to succeed than the manipulation routine (since it's not like she's superhumanly strong)? It isn't clear that she gained much of an advantage in the end. Basically she got help from Kyoko in fighting Nathan, which I don't think was a result of anything Caleb did.

alternate ending where she takes caleb with her and he gets her a job at nathans company

She can probably just talk the helicopter dude into taking her back there when she gets the "20%" ding from her bod.

I hadn't thought about that before - she could very well be intending to return after, i dunno, SHOPPING

there's power outlets everywhere, she'll be fiiiine. besides wtf could caleb show her that she can't intuit? he was in so deep he was going to marry her, dude is useless

It seems a given that Ava knew she couldn't have killed Nathan without "help" since she would have probably gleaned the fates of her predecessors, several of whom probably tried that (without knives) and got recycled themselves

i will examine this question upon rescreen the info must be in there

lets reconvene tomorrow, we'll need to break the story for the fanfic

I think Caleb is gonna be fine, if Nathan's mini bar is as full of water as his was (or there's the fish tanks if not) he just has to stay alive till people wonder why Nathan isn't answering his emails and come looking for him.

Ava seems to be capable of perceiving utility in learning as an end in itself, if so, then she would arrive at utility calculations that aren't the same as a true sociopath.

Can't make head or tail of this. Ava is sociopathic because whatever her values are, empathy and sympathy for humans aren't among them. She probably sees us much like we would see ants - worth studying, not worth killing en masse unless they threaten her existence, individually completely insignificant.

guys

ava WAS caleb

also, caleb = c bale

dun dun DUN

this was all explained in the comic book iirc

for some reason when I picture scenes from this in my head I see Richard from "Silicon Valley" as Caleb

What if this was in the same universe as the Black Mirror where Gleeson is a crap robot...

this was TOTALLY a feature-length Black Mirror episode

but way better

black mirrores

except not

and if black mirror had invented the idea of being afraid of technology

i liked the production design of this movie - beardy oscar's house is fucking amazing

does anyone know if it's a real house?

iirc its a hotel

ooh

Juvet Landscape Hotel, Valldal valley, Norway.

ilx world fap location imo

im gonna lock u all in there :)

;_;

i am going to teach everyone how to robot disco

i rewatched it

goddamn i love that ending, nihilist robot slays all, lives

I love Alicia Vikander

and that neither Poe Dameron or General Hux escape this film

I watched and enjoyed this last night. Oscar Issac was super annoying but everything else ruled.

by "super annoying" you mean "great", right?

You guys now I really need to see this thing

get on that shit dude

there's power outlets everywhere, she'll be fiiiine. besides wtf could caleb show her that she can't intuit? he was in so deep he was going to marry her, dude is useless

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 22:34 (3 days ago)

I think going without him might have been a bigger risk. She probably could have exploited him further.

I really never thought about Caleb being perfectly safe in the house. Don't know why I was so sure he would die.

Glad this film eventually got watched, talked about and awards. When it came out in Britain I was afraid it had pretty much flopped and was going to disappear.

its streaming on amazon fyi everyone

i rewatched it was good

they didnt say why shd didnt just steal nathans key card btw except i guess we cld assume that there was some security thing that wldnt let her leave the room

i watched the behind the scenes stuff on the bluray, vikkander wore a full bodysuit made of that silver mesh, they didnt have to green screen her at all for any of her scenes

also her & the woman who plays the japanese robot are both ex-ballet dancers, makes so much sense now, the way they inhabit the space & their precise movements, subtle head tilts & gestures, genius bit of casting

also the location for nathan's lair is a house + the hotel, they combined parts from both

wow, zero idea that Evil Elon Musk was Poe Dameron until now

i didn't either. god, i am the absolute worst with that. i also didn't recognize him in star wars, despite having recently watched him for 6 hours in Show Me a Hero. i am like the guy that doesn't recognize someone when they put charlie chaplin accessories on their face