Dating With Mental Illness

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no defense.

i just think i can get away with it. (i'm gonna do it, next time).

i'm a fucking creep, and ill, but i have advantages.

i will probably not respond to the last few posts coherently, ever. but, i did read them.

thank you. especially emil.y

i'm a creep. i like talkin' though.

black metal is emo for vikings (monster mash), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

xpost.

umm. honestly. i can probably make friends with her, at least.
she's dumb and probably has a dumb boyfriend, though. :-/ it's a small, rural town.

black metal is emo for vikings (monster mash), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

whoah. i shouldn't have called her dumb.
she's cool by me.
i respect the fact that most people don't have an education like mine.

black metal is emo for vikings (monster mash), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

i'm drunk.

black metal is emo for vikings (monster mash), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

i'm not an asshole, but i am a jerk.

sorry.

black metal is emo for vikings (monster mash), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

im pretty sure you're an asshole, bud.

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

your alcohol problem sounds a lot worse than your dating problem

La Lechuza (La Lechera), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

if shes a cashier at a liquor store in rural town she probably dngaf about where you went to school even if its like harvard or w/e. why would she? just ask her out.

LEGIT (Lamp), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

Sober up first.

Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

. . .

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

i was just thinking about this issue -- only so much in terms of dating, but in terms of being close to other people, or attempting to get close to other people

The thing about mental illness is that you are (or at least have been) living in this alternate version of reality in terms of your instincts, perceptions and judgments of other people. If you aren't aware that your reality is "suspect" then that's probably the first step to take. But even after you've acknowledged that, (and largely because of this), at least in my experience, you are reticent to impose your reality (your perceptions, your judgments) on other people in terms of "I think this person is this way, you should agree with me." Sometimes I have to clarify this and spell this out with close friends, because I think the standard thing is to want or expect agreement.

when the gaz coombes around (sarahell), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

xpost to jim in glasgow: you are a garbage person. harass me again and i will flag your post.

black metal is emo for vikings (monster mash), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

i've had ~20 shots now. i know srahell dislikes, me as well.

we're all here. i assume we're all friends. you dumb jerks!

black metal is emo for vikings (monster mash), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link

Effexor, Paxil, Neurontin, and Risperidone

i've had ~20 shots now.

I don't know you, but please take better care of yourself. Drinking while on these medications is very bad for your body and potentially very dangerous. whoever you are, you deserve the best care you can give yourself. please put yourself first for a while. I know that when we have other stuff in our way it can make self-care seem like the hardest thing, I know this personally, but please try.

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

yeah, we're not all friends here. it's not that i have any particular dislike for you, but i have had too many friends drink themselves to death already. therefore anybody who is actively engaged in drinking themselves to death is not my friend, particularly when there's really nothing at all i can do to prevent it.

new zingland (rushomancy), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

good for you rushomancy, your "friends" really appreciated that, i'm sure

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link

JCLC otm

right now I don't think you're in a place where you're going to figure out your romantic life. Please drink some water and get some rest, you'll be able to think about these things more clearly tomorrow. Call someone if you need help.

JoeStork, Friday, 18 December 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

xps. getting butthurt at people for being addicted to a substance is a bad look.

I find your posts extremely unappealing monster mash and i don't care if you flag-post me for giving you shit, but please be careful with your booze and drug combos.

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link

i take an SSRI and everytime I drink I feel emotionally HORRIBLE for at least the next few days... like WORSE than I felt before I started drinking. i don't know if this is related to the SSRI or not, or if it's just something I've noticed since starting to get help... but I wonder whether or not this awful emotional hangover contributed to my vicious cycle of binge drinking and general fucking-up-my-life... one thing i've learned s that i just need to ride it out and feel bad for a while sometimes, because once i start drinking... things NEVER get better

just some 2cents, please don't start attacking me monster mash

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link

alcohol reduces the effectiveness of SSRI's (also reduces your tolerance to alcohol) ... it's not just you

when the gaz coombes around (sarahell), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link

the tolerance thing... i never even thought about? god i'm stupid, lol

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link

for me it's a negotiation ... i like drinking, but i have to make myself drink less, and less frequently, which makes social stuff awkward, so frequently i don't go out to avoid the peer pressure to drink ... though it's helpful to keep it in mind, "I feel like garbage because i drank too much and my meds aren't working right now." as opposed to "I feel like garbage because I am garbage."

when the gaz coombes around (sarahell), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link

u should have gone to an elite university xp

mookieproof, Friday, 18 December 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link

I found SSRIs lowered my tolerance to some extent but also made it apparently completely random, like one day on Zoloft I could drink all evening and feel not a lot, and then a few days or weeks later I might have just a couple of drinks and feel completely wrecked

but either way my mood would be at rock bottom for a couple of days after drinking so yeah, totally not recommended. wish I'd realised that sooner. anyway Joan C otm. wishing you luck monster mash but please try to cut down and take better care of yourself.

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 18 December 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link

xp i did!

when the gaz coombes around (sarahell), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

it's not a matter of being butthurt, it's matter of refusing to be hurt by other people's self-destructive behavior, esp. when you have no particular control over it. i should live in la-la land and pretend that if i say "gee, i really care about you as a person, and i hate to see you hurting yourself like that", it will make a fucking bit of difference?

new zingland (rushomancy), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

you can isolate yourself from toxic people and still have compassion for them

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link

ALL ALCHOLICS ARE NOT THE SAME FUCKHEAD

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

i'm definitely not your friend and i'm super proud of it, i still have compassion for your sorry ass, though, lol

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:37 (eight years ago) link

so many ways we can be condescending to each other. i need to start prepping turkey.

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

we're not all friends here and nobody knows monster mash, but telling people that they're being assholes and that you wish for them to not damage themselves (& hurt others) through substance abuse are, in fact, things that friends do

glandular lansbury (sic), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

did i say i didn't have compassion for him? of course i have compassion for him. unfortunately, i've found that "compassion" doesn't translate very well to ascii. look, he didn't start a thread to try and elicit empathy from strangers over the internet. as best i can tell, the man craves human touch. i can't say that me saying that my heart bleeds for him does him any good whatsoever.

new zingland (rushomancy), Friday, 18 December 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link

let me put it another way. my friends are the people who are there to help me when i need them. if i can't be there for someone when they need me, i'm not going to insult them by claiming to be their "friend".

new zingland (rushomancy), Friday, 18 December 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link

ilxors sometimes have good content. but for mental illness support type stuff you're better off elsewhere. on ilx you'll get picked apart for every little error.

The Once-ler, Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:22 (eight years ago) link

and mental illness is error to the people who don't got it

The Once-ler, Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:22 (eight years ago) link

can't wait for the part where mm says he feels like an ass for drunk posting and then refuses to look upthread for all the people who told him to please get some help with the very pronounced alcoholism

you used to smell me on your smell phone (Abbott), Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:41 (eight years ago) link

people don't like being enablers, which is what we would be doing if we treated you more gently

you used to smell me on your smell phone (Abbott), Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:43 (eight years ago) link

there's a difference between being rude one time and a cycle of behaving badly toward others

there's also a huge difference between apologizing for bad behavior and saying "I'm mentally ill so I post things like that," acting like it's ok to do so

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:48 (eight years ago) link

I just have knee-jerk loathing for public humiliation

when the gaz coombes around (sarahell), Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:59 (eight years ago) link

Chrisht lads its one am and I'd ate the leg off've the lamb of God has anyone chips

darraghmac, Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link

darragh posting on prescription medication > drunk posts imo

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:13 (eight years ago) link

Thanks man thanks

darraghmac, Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link

Have

darraghmac, Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link

Have you any chips at all

darraghmac, Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link

and mental illness is error to the people who don't got it

being mentally ill or alcoholic is not a free pass for assholery

and everyone on ilx is mentally ill

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:16 (eight years ago) link

except darragh, i mean

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:16 (eight years ago) link

there's a difference between being rude one time and a cycle of behaving badly toward others

there's also a huge difference between apologizing for bad behavior and saying "I'm mentally ill so I post things like that," acting like it's ok to do so

― μpright mammal (mh)

but don't forget that there's also a difference between having mental illness and not having mental illness

plus, i don't know anyone whom stands by any of their bad behavior.

but maybe they would stand by "bad" behavior if it was merely "off" and only perceived as bad by some people - particularly those that find error in everything or are overly sensitive.

this is purely off-topic hypothetical stuff. I'm not trying to relate this to any of monster mash's posts

The Once-ler, Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link

no one ever deserves a free pass for assholery. just the same as no one ever requests a free pass for assholery.
and again "assholery" is in the eyes of the beholder

The Once-ler, Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:27 (eight years ago) link

I find it odd that non-mentally ill people think we blame all our behaviors on the mental illness.

The Once-ler, Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:28 (eight years ago) link


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