This is the thread where J.D. tries to read "Moby-Dick."

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The dead, blind wall butts all inquiring heads at last.

(spoiler warning)

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

I read the novel in a week, didn't find it intimidating; it felt like I was listening to an old aunt sharing stories using her peculiar quirks and speech patterns.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:33 (eight years ago) link

intimidating before commencement, while still looming.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

it's a breeze tho yes, part wisecracking naturalism, part "pomo" (tho premo) info-deluge, part insane fourth-wall-breaking comic book where people soliloquize madly ("science! curse thee, thou vain toy!"), part paradise lost. there are no better books.

otm.

always a little miffed when people act as if this book consists long boring passages about whaling interspersed amongst a more traditional seafaring adventure. the whole thing is wild and funny and not a single page drags for me.

ryan, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

this book is nearly impossible to read. today i had lunch with a girl who claimed someone in her family tree was on the whaleship that inspired melville. (apparently there is a movie) i asked her if she ever read the book herself, and she said she thought so, a long time a go. i was like...if you had finished this friggin' book you would know!~

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link

always a little miffed when people act as if this book consists long boring passages about whaling interspersed amongst a more traditional seafaring adventure. the whole thing is wild and funny and not a single page drags for me.

That = me on the ILB thread, will rectify.

why "nearly impossible"?

One thing that struck me about reading excerpts from it (via twitter) was how Shakesperian it is. And seems to pull off that language with some ease too. Or at least it makes me like Shakespeare a lot more than I do.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link

re: "nearly impossible"

It's dense. I don't have much affinity with Shakespeare or the 'history of literature." Or the ocean. Would love to read Ishmael go on about the woods though.

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link

or go through a couple more Queequegs

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link

I loved this novel until the part where they actually struck off to sea and then it got really boring

canoon fooder (dog latin), Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

the diverting if comparatively behind-its-time gravity's rainbow is an ilx totem while this thread is 80% "long, boring": lieutenant huxley, your fascination with the vulgar twentieth century seems to be affecting your better judgement

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

I found gravity's rainbow legitimately extremely difficult to read. moby dick is not even in the same league in terms of difficulty. though the idea that "it's a breeze" to read or whatever rings false to me, though maybe your reading habits might include reading naturalist tracts from the 19th Century and the reams of cetology will be like sweet manna to you.

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link

never cared much for pynchon

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

Ha. Gravity's Rainbow was another stop I took on my book tour. And I did say "a breeze" relative to, like, Ulysses.

circa1916, Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

when i finally did go back and give the book another shot in 2010 i actually found the "habits of whales" chapters to be pretty enjoyable. melville filters all the information through his kooky narrator voice, so a lot of those chapters are just him doing his weird autodidactic musings on some musty old book he (i assume) was taking a glance at while he wrote.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link

i started a poll here a long time ago about books like moby dick, ulysses, proust, et al -- i forget what won, but it was primarily a way to motivate myself to read all those books (it didn't work too well).

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

his weird autodidactic musings on some musty old book he (i assume) was taking a glance at while he wrote.

he loved to dust his old grammars; it somehow mildly reminded him of his mortality

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

Love Moby-Dick, have read it somewhere between four and six times; have never made it through Gravity's Rainbow.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

i'm only like 200 pages into Moby Dick but i'm completely in love with it. you really can draw a line from this to something like pynchon. comic book action/adventure, mysticism, obscure taxonomy/science/history, blended language, fluid pov, all butting up against and mixing with each other in strange and surprising ways. so excited for the rest of it.

circa1916, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 06:55 (eight years ago) link

YUP

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 06:56 (eight years ago) link

always a little miffed when people act as if this book consists long boring passages about whaling interspersed amongst a more traditional seafaring adventure. the whole thing is wild and funny and not a single page drags for me.

had someone articulate this complaint to me the other day and i was just like, jeez, the whaling chapters are not only extremely entertaining, they tend to necessarily explain the action of the previous chapter

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 07:05 (eight years ago) link

anyway i have a moby-dick tattoo. this is the best book ever

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 07:06 (eight years ago) link

"The skeleton dimensions I shall now proceed to set down are copied verbatim from my right arm, where I had them tattooed; as in my wild wanderings at that period, there was no other secure way of preserving such valuable statistics."

remove butt (abanana), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 07:08 (eight years ago) link

i guess it goes on a little longer later, but the first Cetology chapter was like 14 pages and it was really interesting. was expecting it to be a dead dry 50 pages or something.

circa1916, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 07:10 (eight years ago) link

This is the first fat 19th century book I really love (almost all of my faves tend to be small-ish: Lermontov, Nerval, von Kleist, Lenz). Maybe Portrait of a Lady or The Devils.

The Moby Dick twitter account is wonderful. As well as comments on here and Melville's The Confidence Man it was the thing that actually made me try it. Need to read Bartleby next.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 09:11 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

"First, we must ask, does it have to be a whale?"#RejectionLetterQuote for Moby Dick, a novel by Herman Melville. pic.twitter.com/WZBVCrb2RE

— Pulp Librarian (@PulpLibrarian) October 3, 2018

mark s, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 12:53 (five years ago) link

^^^this is the edition i have -- wit the rockwell kent illustrations -- and it's lovely

mark s, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 12:54 (five years ago) link

been working my way through this, they finally mentioned the whale and i'm 400 iPad pages in

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link

the book is awesome tho

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link

the "whiteness of the whale" chapter was...quite something.

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

hit my stopping point last night at the end of chapter 31, tonight we get CETOLOGY.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 00:37 (one year ago) link

If y'all want fun, read Clarel.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 00:55 (one year ago) link


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