Best Celtic Frost Album Poll

Oh and I've always thought of Celtic Frost as death metal. They never really used guitars in a thrashy way, to my ears, and their whole vibe was just occult bullshit and weird old fiction, a million miles removed from blue jeans, white sneakers and lyrics about society.

to me, Celtic Frost and Hellhammer are pretty unclassifiable, but exist at this heart of black, death and thrash metal. Heaviness-wise, they were absolutely big influences for death metal, but atmosphere-wise, they were just as big an influence for black metal. Riff-wise, they were basically a crusty thrash/speed metal band....but then again also played doom riffs. Great band.

also, Morbid Tales robbed in this poll. Beaten by Cold Lake????

there's 9 trolls on ilm who voted

this thread revival reminds me of one of my ALL TIME FAVOURITE display names, "Nightboat to Mega Therion". Much respect, Nick B.

That is a great DN.

Had left TMT in the car CD player last night and it was on when I started up the car to take my kid to the bookstore. I switched it immediately over to his Spiderman CD and he goes "No. Wait - put that song back on!" So I put it back on The Usurper and he had on this full-toothed grin and doing this swaying back-and-forth dance...kinda an Axl Rose thing.

About two minutes in, I saw that he was staring into space and figured he was bored so I asked if he was ready for me to change it back to Spiderman. "When this song's over, you can put it back." Cool.

After I changed it back he says "I like angry music because it's loud and because IT'S ROCK AND ROLLL!"

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, September 12, 2009 7:29 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the best post on ilx

To Mega Therion is classic, but it's strange how benign it sounds next to Morbid Tales/Emperor's Return. Then again Morbid Tales/Emperor's Return sounds benign next to Hellhammer.

been spending a lot of time with vanity/nemesis and it's great. they kept enough from cold lake that it sort of feels like a bunch of minimal thrash riffs allowed to twist into strange semiaccessible places. the bryan ferry cover is wild

I never posted in this so I likely didn't vote but I am definitely an Into The Pandemonium guy. Heavy and unique. I remember working at a record store years later and popping it in when it came in used and everyone I worked with - the alternative buyer, the hip-hop guy, even the hippie store owner - all found something about the album that got their attention in a positive way. Just a remarkable album, way ahead of it's time.

I found this thread because I wondered it anyone old remembered the beef between (I think) Don Kaye and Tom Warrior? I have a recollection of them duking it out in Kerrang! but I cannot recall the specifics. The internet was no help and Don Kaye doesn't like me so I don't want to ask him on Facebook.

Reissues of the first three and Vanity/Nemesis coming out end of next month. I'm not sure if they've been remastered or anything, but they come in book-like packaging, so I'm assuming Tom G. wrote typically long-winded liner notes. Earache's webstore has a bundle offer - less than $50 for the CD versions, $110 for the vinyl versions.

http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2016/10/16/classic-celtic-frost-albums-to-be-reissued

"I haven’t heard Cold Lake since 1988 and I have no intention to do so before my death, although it will probably be played in hell for the next million years."

If you look at the individual CDs on the Earache webstore it has the bonus tracks... kinda weird break up (Emperor's Return is on TMT) but, excitingly, 1984 rehearsal tracks on Morbid Tales.

Tom Gabriel Fischer

As I am constantly receiving inquiries regarding the forthcoming BMG/Noise Records Celtic Frost reissue albums:

I am not part of this project, and I do not endorse it, as it does not reflect Celtic Frost's wishes, intentions, and identity.

It is thus my personal opinion that these reissues are not worth their (substantial) price.

good old Tom, he does like to bring the rain

Um...that's not what he said back in October...

http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2016/10/16/classic-celtic-frost-albums-to-be-reissued

yeah that's his style. he is a dude whose thoughts about his own work should be taken w/several grains of salt.

He's written a typically long-winded blog entry about what happened. Basically, he wanted to use the Into the Pandemonium liner notes to re-litigate old grievances, BMG said "WTF dude, we'll get sued," and he said "Fuck this - I'm out!"

to me he is sort of the perfect example of the great artist who does not himself get his own stuff. his initial autobio circa 2000? 2001? was to me a pretty unreadable combo of "we didn't know what we were doing, but it came out a classic!" and "once again our titanic plans were foiled by THE SUITS!!" working with him has gotta suck hard

He disowned a perfectly good album in Cold Lake. Tom's a genius, but he does need to lighten up a little.

PROCREATION OF THE WICKEEEEEEEEEED

OOOH

lol I thanked Tom G Warrior in my bio for the musical I'm in and figured my director would edit it out but since he doesn't know who it is, he left it in. WIN!

Ha nice. Now to slip some UNNNH! and HEYYYYS! into your performance.

hmm now you give me ideas.

Well damn -- Martin Eric Ain has died.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-celtic-frost-bassist-martin-eric-ain-dead-at-50.html#tjcBAASLSBv2PwR8.01

RIP

Tom G. Warrior's memorial is a must read

https://fischerisdead.blogspot.ca/2017/10/martin-eric-ain-1967-2017.html?m=1

That was a great read. And I'm glad I put on Morbid Tales while I read it.

ever since the weather changed i've found it hard to listen to anything that isn't to mega therion

Solid Fall listening

I wish everything sounded like Tom G Warrior's guitar. even people's voices.

"hello" = the riff to "Procreation of the Wicked"

doing a near complete CF walkthrough. skipping TMT for now cos I've played that one 3000 times more than any other, and I want to revisit Morbid Tales (which I love), Monotheist (which I suspect me getting into Triptykon will have changed my mind about it), and Vanity/Nemesis, which I never have heard.

played Into the Pandemonium earlier. kinda enjoyed the 90s Helmet-y alt metal flourishes that occasionally pop up

I've come around a lot on Monotheist. I think the problem was one of shock. When CF reunited, I didn't expect TMT again considering they'd put three albums out after it that moved away from that sound before they broke up the first time. but sure as hell didn't expect a droney-type groove either.

I think getting into Triptykon years later helped me, though I think Triptykon is a improved version of what they were doing here.

Vanity/Nemesis wasn't bad but the production defanged Tom's guitar. I'm guessing this was done on Cold Lake as well (which I haven't heard?).

after many many years of struggling with it, i have finally become an into the pandemonium person. something clicked

I love the first three equally. Morbid Tales deserved more than four votes!

i think i always loved it bc i love celtic frost but also had difficulty wrapping my mind around... idk it's like a bizarrely-shaped thing, its ambitions make it a little unwieldy and hard to pin down, whereas mega therion is just a tank rolling over a field of skulls plus a freakin scary musique concrète track y'know. everything about pandemonium feels like it's happening a few inches off the ground, the riffs are really weird, warrior spends half the tracks trying to find his goth voice, the production is kind of thin and dissociated which is warrior's one grievance with the record iirc but i think it only contributes to the bizarre mood of it, the pop-metal and industrial moves on the second side just feel really right in terms of creating a nightmarish landscape where anything can happen like you can slip through a porthole into deep space etc. just feels like the exact thing i want to listen to right now

it was also my first celtic frost record, and when i bought it in college i really couldn't make any sense of it whatsoever lol

It was my first CF record in high school and, for some reason, I loved it immediately. Probably helped that I loved the Wall of Voodoo original of "Mexican Radio" and was getting into early Christian Death at the time.

I probably wouldn't have understood ITP if i Hadn't heard earlier CF first.

I started with To Mega Therion and instantly loved it, and then ITP sounded like a progression of that sound with more outside elements added.

https://letterboxd.com/unawarewolf/film/celtic-frost-live-at-the-hammersmith-odeon-3389/

Anybody get Danse Macabre box? I did and it rules.

Yep. Sure does.

I would also buy a Celtic Frost boxed set of it came with only a logo patch and a few shards of grass though