Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

and playing with taboo in movies... I just saw the film called Pathology - worst movie ever.

so didn't suck ass. it was good but boring.

but Juno (the most obnoxious film ever made in the history of the world) and Little Miss Sunshine were good or great because you felt swell about them coming out of a theater. and any sort of analysis outside of straight emotional impressions isn't really important. does your left brain function when you watch a film? i mean, not saying Lynch is some CEREBRAL SHIT, but come on man. there's certainly more there than the irritating twee horseshit that you mentioned.

i'm kinda drunk too, but i'm not getting anything other than "I LIKED IT AND THEREFORE IT IS GOOD". not much fun for discussion.

for me, cerebral shit has to be more intelligent than what Lynch is getting into.
I do enjoy delving into intelligent soulful shit or great art and emotional concepts, but, give me John Waters - Polyester, or Clockwork Orange, or Suspiria over a movie where the whole premise is basically an abduction of a guy into a weird artsy world... some scenes might of had great cinematography but I see great cinematography + better plot in other movies. I like lots of movies that make me think more than Blue Velvet. I wish I could thing of a great thought provoking movie now or a movie that is all around good and has an unique weird art style.. but I'm grasping at straws for names at the moment. How about City of God or Life Aquatic or A Boy and his Dog or The Warriors or The Seven Samurai or A Few Dollars More

I think that there can be intellectualism in cinematography or art direction even if the film isn't particularly thought provoking - Lynch fans should agree with me on this point.

whatever im friends with David Lynch on FACEBOOK captainlorax

lorax, did you just srsly throw down the gauntlet of "Life Aquatic vs. Lynch, which is smarter?"

which art direction + plot is better: blue velvet vs. life aquatic. that's what I was mentioning those movies for.

Hey Lorax Fistful of Dollars pwnes A Few Dollars More

see the problem here is that too many people skip the step in the iconoclast flowchart where it says "is it possible that i am confusing 'having different and interesting worldview' with 'being mildly retarded' Y/N?"

the way lynch crafts the people, their emotional responses, underlying feelings & motivations can be very intellectual, or rather - not used in the vast majority of movies... thats where I see him as an intellectual. that and the art direction, style and cinematography can be intellectual. The plot of Blue Velvet didn't intrigue me.

I wish I could remember the great "artsy" movie I saw this past year.

help me list some good films where the left brain is obviously stimulated

New Topic: help me list some good films where the left brain is obviously stimulated

I think that there can be intellectualism in cinematography or art direction even if the film isn't particularly thought provoking - Lynch fans should agree with me on this point.

Using intellectualism in conjunction with any Lynch movie makes absolutely no sense at all whatsoever.

I've never seen Twin Peaks, but will do soon.

However I saw Blue Velvet about 2 weeks ago on TV and thought it was one of the best films I'd ever seen. Some of the inexplicable bits are incredible, they let you think and try and decide what they mean yourself. I like the level of ambiguity there. Also it's really enthralling in and of itself, like the final scene with Julee Cruise playing as the bug is crushed by the bird. It takes guts to do things that don't make clear and absolute sense.

CLASSIC

Even after the second season when they find the killer and Lynch isn't directing anymore and you know it will never be as good as it once was, you still CANNOT STOP WATCHING. Love the show. Except I wanna kick Billy Zane in the nards.

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^^^ this is like my favourite moment in television

James Marshall is truly one of the world's worst. He and Eric Da Re and all the other crappy actors make the show more lolably soap operatic though, which is obviously classic.

caek otm, that scene never fails to make me tear up a little

FYI, folx:

Full Series Streaming on CBS Site

Now you can go about squandering your work day.

YES, thank you caek!

It's weird that you dig John Waters stuff, ACO, and Suspiria, CaptainLorax, but not Blue Velvet. I mean, these aren't terribly dissimilar.

Also, I don't mean to imply that Lynch is an intellectual filmmaker AT ALL. The guy himself openly talks about his process as being nearly wholly intuitive.

intuitions, complex emotions, can be intellectual... art can be challenging.

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intuitions, complex emotions, can be intellectual... art can be challenging.

― CaptainLorax, Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:29 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so can opinions

That scene freaked me the fuck out the first time i saw that movie. Almost as much as the weird face at the end of Inland Empire.

whats the point, he just has a normal movie with eerie settings and throws in something surprising

wheres the meat?

Dude has the uncanny ability to transform Norman Rockwell-worthy mundane Americana into something genuinely unsettling. That takes a special kind of talent. I am a horror buff, and I find certain Lynch scenes far more spooky than even the scariest of "scary movies." If nothing else, you've got to give the man his due for his expertise in dread and tension.

I mean: Robert Blake cell-phone scene in Lost Highway. wtf

Norman Rockwell-worthy mundane Americana - no one believes in that
it's already unsettling you can look out the window

I'm not talking about actual reality. I'm talking about Garrison Keillor/Leave it to Beaver-type shit.

Since this is a TP thread, I'll use this as an example: In a certain pivotal episode in Season 2, there is a scene with the Palmers discussing Maddy's move home to Montana as Leland plays "What a Wonderful World" on the phonograph. There is nothing outwardly sinister about the scene at all, but the elements are combined in such a way as to leave you feeling totally uncomfortable.

I fell totally uncomfortable watching bad movies too.

That is because you are a structuralist. Post-structuralists have a lot more fun watching "bad" movies. lol

Maddy's move home to Montana as Leland plays "What a Wonderful World" on the phonograph. There is nothing outwardly sinister about the scene at all, but the elements are combined in such a way as to leave you feeling totally uncomfortable.

Even better is that later in that episode, when Leland murders her, the needle is stuck in the runoff groove of this same record.

I would also like to submit that the murder of Maddie is one of the scariest sequences ever to be shown on network TV.

OMG also, interview with actor who plays BOB (starts about 1:50). Still fucking creepy, even when behaving normally:

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Awesome. Sigh.

here is is

OMG Leland murders her?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

j/k

I would also like to submit that the murder of Maddie is one of the scariest sequences ever to be shown on network TV.

YES

yo the special feature doc on the twin peaks movie dvd is really funny. Whoever edited it made most of the actors who took part in it look like huge idiots

Hawk: Some of my best friends are white people.

That scene freaked me the fuck out the first time i saw that movie. Almost as much as the weird face at the end of Inland Empire.

― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 29 September 2008 10:15 (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I got around to watching Inland Empire and that face is pretty fukking nasty

http://api.ning.com/files/-jTS6W3nJqm58uuppaYSG0nyNTVVOTjcc1HUbl4TWuI_/InlandEmpireScream2.jpg

yeeeeeeeeah I should not have clicked on that.

whats the point, he just has a normal movie with eerie settings and throws in something surprising

― CaptainLorax, Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:54 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest

I can't think of a single David Lynch movie that would qualify as a normal movie, even if you would go in an remove the obvious 'weird' parts. The dialogue alone throughout his movies is enough to make them a surreal experience.

yeah - Lynch's sense of pacing is nothing like a "normal" movie