oh wait, i wisnae signed in. ok let's hear if they switched things up in '15.
― ledge, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link
Still making my way through the first four live shows. I'm starting to really regret having not gone to see them when they were here a couple of months ago. I'd seen them twice and the second time was not really that good I thought, but these live recordings are amazing.
I saw them for the first time when they were touring for Untilted. The live shows from that period are amazing as well but very different from this current era. They are worth checking out if you can find them.
― silverfish, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link
not sure if it's my work web proxy screwing with their site or not. anyone able to download from it today? i made my purchase but download isn't working :/
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
i think i need to work out how to hear these via the stereo as i don't think the earbuds are quite cutting it. that said, autechre on loud walking around Westfields is the only real way to experience Westfields.
― koogs
can't speak on the recent five released, but the Dublin recording sounds excellent on crap headphones (KOSS on-ear $5).. super dry, spacious, and crisp. a lot gentler on the ears than Exai, too
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link
i've downloaded today. it was a bit of an odd ui experience (because, i think, the site is geared to let people download individual tracks from releases and these releases are a single track each so it looks a bit odd) but i have files.
― koogs, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link
must be the workplace web proxy. i'll have to grab them all when i get home.
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link
I've been binging on these and making notes (don't judge me). A) the more I hear the more awesome they sound; 2) on a broad scale they differ a lot less than I first thought, they include the same sections in the same order. The changes are mostly in the details, some elements are brought forward and some are suppressed, different filters are applied and tweaked, sections are lengthened or rapidly dismissed. There is one major difference between the sets, as they go on they manage to pack a lot more in. I've got as far as Grafenhainichen and that covers everything that Krakow and Brussels do in about 2/3 of the time, leaving room for 20-30 minutes of extra material.
― ledge, Thursday, 10 December 2015 13:13 (eight years ago) link
I always find at least something to enjoy about all their recordings but these new live sets are a career highlight. Close to my future ideal of an album that changes slightly every time you listen to it. There's already tons of process music & generative apps out there doing that (Eno & Chilver's Scape is actually not bad) but most of them are contemplative & ambient & gradually evolutionary. but these sets are active.
https://cycling74.com/2015/12/08/youve-gotta-hear-this-gifting-futures/#.VmmzR0orJD9
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link
I remember when the Gescom minidisc came out, they said they considered putting out a generative music app but pulled back when they figured out they wouldn't own the copyright to the results. Still hoping for a generative app/album from them.
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link
nine versions of one album (roughly), and the music is outstanding. i wonder how it'll rate ultimately, if they'll continue adding sets from 2015 (North America) or even delve back into older material. i recall seeing one of the recordings on a year-end list (just one).. hoping it'll rate high with WIRE, at least. because the music is fucking rad ("active" is an understatement), arguably better than some of their latter-period albums. i've softened on Oversteps, however.. it's classic.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 12 December 2015 01:22 (eight years ago) link
i am, of course, now wondering what notes ledge is making, how he is differentiating / naming the various parts of the concerts
45:10 washing machine full of spanners47:23 moog vs adhd48:00 r2d2 on mogadon49:12 randodigicrapnoise plugin...
― koogs, Monday, 14 December 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link
it's certainly challenging my descriptive abilities. r2d2 on mogadon, might have to borrow that one. this is the highlight imo of brussels (though they all follow this template more or less):
23:50 i'm raving i'm raving27:15 maniac accordion29:10 happy monster30:45 laser wars38:30 rave gorilla
― ledge, Monday, 14 December 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link
I remember when the trance stabs started at Bloc; I was sure they were trolling us.
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Monday, 14 December 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link
That's exactly what I hate about these dongs. So serious and bourgeois that any hint of "popular trance music" must be trolling bra that music is for dumb prols
― lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 14 December 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link
lol i used to dj trance and it was one of my favorite parts
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Monday, 14 December 2015 23:32 (eight years ago) link
12:30 electro bees
― koogs, Monday, 14 December 2015 23:43 (eight years ago) link
― MatthewK, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 05:06 (eight years ago) link
As someone who is realistically only going to listen to one of these, which is the best one to go for?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 12:30 (eight years ago) link
Barely anything to choose between them for most of their length tbh. the later ones seem to be busier but also more dissonant towards the end, if you like nice things then the first four (krakow/brussels/utrecht/dublin) have a short but harmonious chime section which the later ones seem to dispense with. dublin is the longest...
― ledge, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:07 (eight years ago) link
First 4 (krakow/brussels/utrecht/dublin) are up on youtube (unofficially, I suspect) as well, if you want to preview them ...
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link
all of them are reviewable on the ae_live website...
― koogs, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link
The player stops every 60 seconds, though, doesn't it? It does for me, at least!
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link
if you keep the cursor active, seeking left/right, you can listen indefinitely.. just keep marking a new point on the line, you can determine (roughly) where in the track you are by the total time on the right side, after it loads a bit
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link
some hot shit going on in nagano from 50:00
― ledge, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link
although for all I know, they are going to release a 4 hour EP in a couple of months― silverfish, Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:02 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― silverfish, Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:02 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― frogbs, Monday, 23 May 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link
lol nice
― “bad” mothers, rebel mamas, and other radical/transgressive moms (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 May 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
Going back and reading some of the old reviews of this is pretty entertaining, on most of 'em the writers just seem annoyed that they have to digest & spit out a piece on a 2-hour Ae album, nearly all of them have some variation of "they suck at editing"
Listening back now, I really think this is maybe their best one?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link
It's in the Confield/Draft/Untilted echelon (yeah piss off) but I'd have it 4thbehibd them on account of slightly lower average quality. 4 longest trax on a single album wd be maybe their best tho
― illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link
autechre definitely the most divisive act to receive airplay @ casa imago/tt (mirror image equiv prob weezer)
― illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link
& i give weezer a CHANCE
but yeah
CD 1
eastremesh cinereaL
CD 2
latentcallelyc6 0nset
^_________^
― illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link
no no I'm talkin Exai
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link
I reviewed it at the time and yeah I kind of 'moaned' (not really) about the length. I don't think it's my favourite but these days I'm finding it increasingly difficult to have subjective opinions about each step on the Ae journey - they just seem to happen. I've listened to Elseq easily the same amount as Exai but despite it being a lot longer, I guess I find the long tracks easier to sit through in one go for some reason
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link
Exai left me with a lingering impression of aural fatigue that I've never got from any of their other releases, whether that was length or mastering or the sounds they used, or just me, idk.
― the year of diving languorously (ledge), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link
^^
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
There's a really awesome 75 minute album hiding in the many tracks of Exai and L-event (for my tastes), and yeah when I play that version of it I feel it's their best or close to it. Certain bits on it I really find grating or out of place
― octobeard, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
I really feel it should have opened with spl9
― octobeard, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link
had a nightmare here, sorry
― illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link
Well Confield usually makes me want to puke so the aural fatigue of Exai isn't so bad
Would guess it's a matter of the sounds used rather than the mastering, so many deep "whap-THUNK" noises on this one, and I always want to play it loud. I guess a few more ambient bits would've helped a lot.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link
i'm listening to this a lot and it's good. the end.
― macropuente (map), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link
i dug out Oversteps yesterday and it's such a treat. I always think I'm about 4 albums behind on truly appreciating Ae releases.
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 15 March 2019 12:09 (five years ago) link
well I know how you're spending all of 2026
― frogbs, Friday, 15 March 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link