Autechre Exai

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You do. I just added AE Live to my basket and it's smart enough to know that I've got the first four, so it's only charging me £1 each for Nagano, Dour, Katowice, Krems and Grafenhainichen (320k MP3s, that is).

Nevertheless, I can wait a bit. Listened to 20min of Dublin this morning on the way to work and it was fantastic.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 12:08 (eight years ago) link

cool.

i think i need to work out how to hear these via the stereo as i don't think the earbuds are quite cutting it. that said, autechre on loud walking around Westfields is the only real way to experience Westfields.

(Dour?)

koogs, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 12:23 (eight years ago) link

it will also surprise nobody that i love the dazzle covers for these things.

koogs, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 12:24 (eight years ago) link

Presumably this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dour_Festival

I may end up dusting off my spindle of CD-Rs and writing them to disc as MP3 (I think they're about 150MB each? So two or three discs for the nine files). I could stick them on DVD-R, but that means having the TV on to navigate through tracks.

AirPlay from phone or iTunes is fine but can break up when there's other stuff going on. Better stick with disc.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 12:42 (eight years ago) link

(i think the pvr, the tv and the br player will all play stuff from a usb stick. it's just a pity that none of that is connected to the stereo.)

koogs, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 13:06 (eight years ago) link

I can get all the new ones for £1 except the last one in my basket, however many items i have, which is £5. huh.

ledge, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

oh wait, i wisnae signed in. ok let's hear if they switched things up in '15.

ledge, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

Still making my way through the first four live shows. I'm starting to really regret having not gone to see them when they were here a couple of months ago. I'd seen them twice and the second time was not really that good I thought, but these live recordings are amazing.

I saw them for the first time when they were touring for Untilted. The live shows from that period are amazing as well but very different from this current era. They are worth checking out if you can find them.

silverfish, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link

not sure if it's my work web proxy screwing with their site or not. anyone able to download from it today? i made my purchase but download isn't working :/

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

i think i need to work out how to hear these via the stereo as i don't think the earbuds are quite cutting it. that said, autechre on loud walking around Westfields is the only real way to experience Westfields.

― koogs

can't speak on the recent five released, but the Dublin recording sounds excellent on crap headphones (KOSS on-ear $5).. super dry, spacious, and crisp. a lot gentler on the ears than Exai, too

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link

i've downloaded today. it was a bit of an odd ui experience (because, i think, the site is geared to let people download individual tracks from releases and these releases are a single track each so it looks a bit odd) but i have files.

koogs, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link

must be the workplace web proxy. i'll have to grab them all when i get home.

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link

I've been binging on these and making notes (don't judge me). A) the more I hear the more awesome they sound; 2) on a broad scale they differ a lot less than I first thought, they include the same sections in the same order. The changes are mostly in the details, some elements are brought forward and some are suppressed, different filters are applied and tweaked, sections are lengthened or rapidly dismissed. There is one major difference between the sets, as they go on they manage to pack a lot more in. I've got as far as Grafenhainichen and that covers everything that Krakow and Brussels do in about 2/3 of the time, leaving room for 20-30 minutes of extra material.

ledge, Thursday, 10 December 2015 13:13 (eight years ago) link

I always find at least something to enjoy about all their recordings but these new live sets are a career highlight. Close to my future ideal of an album that changes slightly every time you listen to it. There's already tons of process music & generative apps out there doing that (Eno & Chilver's Scape is actually not bad) but most of them are contemplative & ambient & gradually evolutionary. but these sets are active.

https://cycling74.com/2015/12/08/youve-gotta-hear-this-gifting-futures/#.VmmzR0orJD9

Milton Parker, Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

I remember when the Gescom minidisc came out, they said they considered putting out a generative music app but pulled back when they figured out they wouldn't own the copyright to the results. Still hoping for a generative app/album from them.

0 / 0 (lukas), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

nine versions of one album (roughly), and the music is outstanding. i wonder how it'll rate ultimately, if they'll continue adding sets from 2015 (North America) or even delve back into older material. i recall seeing one of the recordings on a year-end list (just one).. hoping it'll rate high with WIRE, at least. because the music is fucking rad ("active" is an understatement), arguably better than some of their latter-period albums. i've softened on Oversteps, however.. it's classic.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 12 December 2015 01:22 (eight years ago) link

i am, of course, now wondering what notes ledge is making, how he is differentiating / naming the various parts of the concerts

45:10 washing machine full of spanners
47:23 moog vs adhd
48:00 r2d2 on mogadon
49:12 randodigicrapnoise plugin
...

koogs, Monday, 14 December 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link

it's certainly challenging my descriptive abilities. r2d2 on mogadon, might have to borrow that one. this is the highlight imo of brussels (though they all follow this template more or less):

23:50 i'm raving i'm raving
27:15 maniac accordion
29:10 happy monster
30:45 laser wars
38:30 rave gorilla

ledge, Monday, 14 December 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

I remember when the trance stabs started at Bloc; I was sure they were trolling us.

0 / 0 (lukas), Monday, 14 December 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

That's exactly what I hate about these dongs. So serious and bourgeois that any hint of "popular trance music" must be trolling bra that music is for dumb prols

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 14 December 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link

lol i used to dj trance and it was one of my favorite parts

0 / 0 (lukas), Monday, 14 December 2015 23:32 (eight years ago) link

12:30 electro bees

koogs, Monday, 14 December 2015 23:43 (eight years ago) link

That's exactly what I hate about these dongs. So serious and bourgeois that any hint of "popular trance music" must be trolling bra that music is for dumb prols

You've obviously never heard one of their mix sets, they have plenty of lightweight quirky stuff among the chin-strokers. Elitist they're not. Sometimes their *audiences* are way too serious, like it's free jazz or something. Me, I get the same rhythmic buzz from Autechre, Grimes, Vince Staples and Jamie xx.

MatthewK, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 05:06 (eight years ago) link

As someone who is realistically only going to listen to one of these, which is the best one to go for?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 12:30 (eight years ago) link

Barely anything to choose between them for most of their length tbh. the later ones seem to be busier but also more dissonant towards the end, if you like nice things then the first four (krakow/brussels/utrecht/dublin) have a short but harmonious chime section which the later ones seem to dispense with. dublin is the longest...

ledge, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:07 (eight years ago) link

First 4 (krakow/brussels/utrecht/dublin) are up on youtube (unofficially, I suspect) as well, if you want to preview them ...

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link

all of them are reviewable on the ae_live website...

koogs, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

The player stops every 60 seconds, though, doesn't it? It does for me, at least!

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link

if you keep the cursor active, seeking left/right, you can listen indefinitely.. just keep marking a new point on the line, you can determine (roughly) where in the track you are by the total time on the right side, after it loads a bit

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

some hot shit going on in nagano from 50:00

ledge, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

although for all I know, they are going to release a 4 hour EP in a couple of months

― silverfish, Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:02 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

frogbs, Monday, 23 May 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

lol nice

seven months pass...

Going back and reading some of the old reviews of this is pretty entertaining, on most of 'em the writers just seem annoyed that they have to digest & spit out a piece on a 2-hour Ae album, nearly all of them have some variation of "they suck at editing"

Listening back now, I really think this is maybe their best one?

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link

It's in the Confield/Draft/Untilted echelon (yeah piss off) but I'd have it 4thbehibd them on account of slightly lower average quality. 4 longest trax on a single album wd be maybe their best tho

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

autechre definitely the most divisive act to receive airplay @ casa imago/tt (mirror image equiv prob weezer)

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link

& i give weezer a CHANCE

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link

but yeah

CD 1

eastre
mesh cinereaL

CD 2

latentcall
elyc6 0nset

^_________^

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link

no no I'm talkin Exai

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link

I reviewed it at the time and yeah I kind of 'moaned' (not really) about the length. I don't think it's my favourite but these days I'm finding it increasingly difficult to have subjective opinions about each step on the Ae journey - they just seem to happen. I've listened to Elseq easily the same amount as Exai but despite it being a lot longer, I guess I find the long tracks easier to sit through in one go for some reason

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

Exai left me with a lingering impression of aural fatigue that I've never got from any of their other releases, whether that was length or mastering or the sounds they used, or just me, idk.

the year of diving languorously (ledge), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

^^

0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

There's a really awesome 75 minute album hiding in the many tracks of Exai and L-event (for my tastes), and yeah when I play that version of it I feel it's their best or close to it. Certain bits on it I really find grating or out of place

octobeard, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

I really feel it should have opened with spl9

octobeard, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

had a nightmare here, sorry

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

Well Confield usually makes me want to puke so the aural fatigue of Exai isn't so bad

Would guess it's a matter of the sounds used rather than the mastering, so many deep "whap-THUNK" noises on this one, and I always want to play it loud. I guess a few more ambient bits would've helped a lot.

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

i'm listening to this a lot and it's good. the end.

macropuente (map), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link

i dug out Oversteps yesterday and it's such a treat. I always think I'm about 4 albums behind on truly appreciating Ae releases.

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 15 March 2019 12:09 (five years ago) link

well I know how you're spending all of 2026

frogbs, Friday, 15 March 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link


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