the genre known as dubstep - search and destroy

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Not even Bury da bwoy!

jim, Monday, 19 November 2007 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I do like angry dubstep really, especially where a vocal is concerned (skeng!) just can't stand darker than thou distorted po-faced bullshit.

jim, Monday, 19 November 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Me too. Having said that, the Milanese -- on first listen -- was a bit much. But I owe it another spin, and a chance to sink in.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 19 November 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Skreamizm 4 whites were out about a week ago. Oskillatah is ridiculous jump up wobbly rubbish but I love it unreservedly. Nemisis(sic) is woeful but the rest is fairly entertaining.

jim, Sunday, 25 November 2007 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't checked Skream's Rinse 02 mix yet. Geeneus's Rinse 01 was good, spanned the gamut of Rinse styles, dubstep, grime, few bits of funky at the end. Apparently Skream's one is mainly his unreleased dubs.

jim, Sunday, 25 November 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.juno.co.uk/artists/Pangaea/

This release is absolutely crucial.

Deep swung techno influenced stuff, like a combination of Loefah, El - B and Rhythm and Sound at their best.

Siah Alan, Sunday, 25 November 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Very minimal (the adjective not the genre). Hessle Audio is definitely quite an interesting label. The TRG bit with the Ne-yo sample was pretty sweet. Terrible name though.

jim, Sunday, 25 November 2007 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Hessle audio being the terrible name. My english isn't so good today.

jim, Sunday, 25 November 2007 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Deep swung techno influenced stuff,

...sounds like our Hell Science Dept stuff

maybe one day people will find our stuff, listen to it with a clear head without being tainted by my bullshit and go...

...fuck me those lads were on it

but i doubt it...heh

pollywog, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey Pollywog you should check your PMs on the Breaks forum.

Siah Alan, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

If it's not a link to 2 girls 1 cup you've gone down massively in my estimation.

jim, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah my puter crashed Siah and lost all my links, so hard to keep trak of where i used to frequent, where i'm banned from, what my name on any given board was and a host of forgotten passwords...

pollywog, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I was just wondering if Skrimshank had made anything new lately.

I liked the guys beats.

And Jim, I'm sorry, I do like some breaks stuff.

Not much recently but Ils and Tayo and a few others.

Siah Alan, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't have a lot of hope for anything that great to come out of bassline breaks or Search and Destroy style breakstep these days.

Broken beat seems to have some potential, Benga made a track called Broken Dubstep that I'm a big fan of.

Siah Alan, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't have a lot of hope for anything that great to come out of bassline breaks or Search and Destroy style breakstep these days

one word, RESO. Dude can mashit up breaks style or halfstep and his production values and drum progaramming are as high as toastys...

you heard the new zed bias ???

‘Experiments With Biasonics’

As a prelude to the forthcoming Zed Bias album on Sick Trumpet, Zed has put together a mini mix of some of the album tracks...

Right click here and choose ‘Save Target As’ to download!

1 - Time
2 - Rogue Frequency feat. Fyza
3 - Cottonmouth feat. Mark de Clive Lowe
4 - Bareknuckle feat. Broke n English
5 - Horrorzone feat. Ink Lined Minds
6 - Smile Within feat. Fyza
7 - Givin it up feat. Pete Simpson
8 - Complicated feat. Fyza

pollywog, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

His remix of Soil and Pimp Sessions last single was really good.

After years of middling house output it was nice to hear him do something a little different.

Siah Alan, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^reckon he might be burial ???...haha

pollywog, Sunday, 25 November 2007 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

skreams rinse cd is just loads of bangers.

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 26 November 2007 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link

What do you guys think about those Soul Jazz dubstep / future of dub comps?

mh, Monday, 26 November 2007 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link

In a post-Burial attempt to familarise myself with the genre, I've been listening to the recent Soul Jazz Box of Dub 2 comp. All very pleasant, but the whole album reminds me of the Thievery Corporation, specifically Songs From The Thievery Hi-Fi. Not so much late night urban menace, as late night boutique hotel chill-bar. I'm not entirely sure that was the intention!

mike t-diva, Monday, 26 November 2007 11:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Hah, whatever you do, don't say that too loudly. But I'd somewhat agree from the half of it I've listened to, but I still like it.

mh, Monday, 26 November 2007 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link

"boutique hotel chill-bar"

i dont get that from all dubstep, just stuff that tries to work in 'world' music like pinch's qwali track. i generally loathe that stuff in general, its so poorly incorporated.

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 26 November 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

for all dubsteps protestations about not getting it unless you hear it on a booming soundsystem...

...it also works on the average cafe system turned low and in the background to allow for conversation

pollywog, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

D1 - I'm lovin' is the shit.

jim, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I know this thread is mainly just an airing ground for disgruntled nu-school breaks fans to talk smack on dubstep but someone needs to keep it ticking over. I'm fighting the good fight here.

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=70999

jim, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link

"Broken beat seems to have some potential"

it HAD some potential.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh wow, a moment ago boomkat alerted me to the work of boxcutter; first thought: this is like a ray from heaven coming down onto me.

mehlt, Thursday, 17 January 2008 01:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I've got the Boxcutter disc -- Glyphic -- but it hasn't grabbed me yet. Is that what you're listening to?

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 17 January 2008 01:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Nah, just stuff from Oneiric. What I heard seemed more, errrm, Planet Mu of the 90s like Mu-Ziq etc. than contemporary dubstep, maybe. This sounded more rooted in IDM and well, I was also listening to it on laptop speakers, so the midtone melodies seemed more prominent, but engaging noenetheless. I think This might be me really needing a break from dance music, and kind of revisting more melodic IDM-ish music at the moment though.

mehlt, Thursday, 17 January 2008 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I just got his new/old album - a bunch of unreleased stuff he did from 02-06 - which Planet Mu are putting out under his real name, Barry [forgot the surname but you can look it up]. Pretty good. Moves back and forth between wonky 2-step, breakcore, IDM and dubstep - I prolly wouldn't have bothered putting it on this thread otherwise but it sounds like you'd be into it based on the above post

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 17 January 2008 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I just kind of threw it in here on a whim, it's really more breakcore/IDM than Dubstep, but nevertheless, thanks for the tip.

mehlt, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Boxcutter is pretty sick for what it is, but not really my thing.

Oneman is officially my new favourite dj. Playing now on http://www.react.fm/ I've not seen him out yet, but hopefully will soon. Lots of great 2step, grime, breakbeat garage and dubstep. Really hype selection.

jim, Sunday, 27 January 2008 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNStVlJWy88

Benga & Coki - night, music video! What is the world coming to?

jim, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Kode9 & Spaceape - 9 Samurai (december 2006)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaU-pnassYM

koogs, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, the Bug has a video too and I think there are probably other examples. I just meant that as part of Night's incredibly slow and inexorable rise there has now been a video slapped together in two minutes in order to promote it even further on MTV etc. I first heard it a year ago and I'm pretty sick of it by now but I suppose in a way it's interesting to see it getting radio play and a possible (if very low) chart position.

Benga album promos have came out and it is absolutely great. Leaked all over the shop if you're interested. Or pre-order it http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=72138

jim, Thursday, 31 January 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I think we may finally have the crossover potential + cohesiveness + massive tunes trifecta in a dubstep album.

jim, Thursday, 31 January 2008 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

speaking of benga:

"This week the current don of dubstep Benga is in the mix, he's recently stormed the clubs with Coki and their track 'Night.' Expect to hear the best new music, from an artist, hotly tipped for 2008."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/essentialmix/

yes, all those videos do look as though they were art students doing it as projects (and are all the better for it imo). i doubt that video was slapped together in two minutes though, probably took days to render 8)

koogs, Monday, 4 February 2008 10:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Absolutely loving new Hyperdub act Ikonika. BLEEPSTEP madness.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 14 February 2008 00:28 (sixteen years ago) link

oops:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Diary-Afro-Woman-Benga/dp/B0012U345K/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1202991779&sr=8-1

"Diary of An Afro Woman"

koogs, Thursday, 14 February 2008 12:24 (sixteen years ago) link

more opinions on "box of dub 2"?

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 18 February 2008 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Oneman is officially my new favourite dj. Playing now on http://www.react.fm/ I've not seen him out yet, but hopefully will soon. Lots of great 2step, grime, breakbeat garage and dubstep. Really hype selection.

-- jim, Sunday, 27 January 2008 18:45 (4 weeks ago)

I'll second you on this. I was turned onto Oneman via Blackdown's blog on Pitchfork. The set he linked is fantastic(Here). Wall to wall dubstep is far too oppressive for me so Oneman's 2 Step / dubstep selections are a match made in heaven. This set includes an old Armand Van Helden remix of Kim English on Nervous that is just fantastic. Anyone who is prepared to mix the old and the new like this (and so expertly) deserves some props. Please get this guy to mix the next Dubstep Allstars comp!!

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/48501-the-month-in-grime-dubstep

sam500, Monday, 25 February 2008 06:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Is the new Boxcutter disc -- Glyphic -- any good?

YES YES YES YES YES

stephen, Saturday, 1 March 2008 08:28 (sixteen years ago) link

is the new caspa & rusko mix the death knell of dubstep?

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 1 March 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

when the annoying posh girl I live with who mainly likes "hip hop and reggae and the Oxford indie scene" likes dubstep, it's pretty much where drum and bass was when roni size released his second album, right? yes, yes, straw man.

caek, Saturday, 1 March 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

is the new caspa & rusko mix the death knell of dubstep?

I don't think so. It's a dead end, it's boring and one-dimensional, but there's plenty of interesting and broad-sweeping new stuff out there to get excited about at the moment (Benga LP being a case in point)

braveclub, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

no, i think both of the above comments are fairly on point

the straw man comparison i was trying to draw was something like caspa & rusko = true playaz label circa 1996, or maybe even the urban takeover crew

(they even liberally pepper the mix w/ a version of the "super sharp shooter" chant!)

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

The True Playaz label was the death knell of jungle?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

moreso than techstep, i think

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

why not?

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Just seems random to me. I mean True Playaz just sort of continued doing what they always had been. It's like saying that the Wackies label was the death knell of reggae or something.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link


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