Danity Kane, anyone?

I admire blackheart but actually enjoy dumblonde idk

Feels like a lame poptimist choice on my part i suppose

new board discrip?

dumblonde doesn't work better in strict pop terms; blackheart is catchier, hookier, better songcraft etc (not to mention force of character which dawn has in spades). vocal production and arrangements are pretty much the star of the dumblonde album, regardless of whether they're in a more familiar pop palette. these two albums are going for v different things but i guess comparing dumblonde to years & years or CRJ (prob the two best straight-pop albums of 2015 imo) reveals why it's not top-tier, whereas comparing dawn to the kelela or twigs eps reveals her superiority

[sighs deeply, removes earrings, rolls up sleeves]

side with deej before his spine went

blackheart doesnt interest me. sonically corny and conceptually ponderous in a way that no longer washes, because now self-conscious and playing to a slavish and trite gallery - album duly fufils its own prophecy as the saddest of epilogues to her previous art - mask on, presenting doll richard for your consideration, or was that consolidation

"And even though I lost the best of me it was worth it
I took it to the deep
Cause there's no depth in these streams
I took it to the deep
Cause my heart doesn't swim in shallow creeks"

that deep so filled with victimhood and self-abnegation, empty baleful cryogenic cousin to "fucking space". what's in those shallow creeks though?- tender green life. and in that black night, why only "freckles in the sky". this brilliant, jouissant reply is dumblonde's - pop in all its awkward teeming poetic meaninglessness, gloriously confounding plurality and messy multivalence. humanalien shards of jagged beauty embedded in clubfunk ditz - why settle for scandos and major lazer when here's the white girls wearing headdresses and fringe boots tropical 2?

"We lay forever, walking over waters deeper than the sea
But never get wet, wet, wet, wet"

three minutes in and over chorales there's lightning thunder and hail, kings and queens, rulers of the light, immortalit-ay (heh) , a dream of love infinite. which album were we talking about again? and so they continue. shooting stars ignite, fire in the sky, "follow the madness with abandon / living legends, you and me". and the finale!!... to me so much of dumblonde seems to be in explicit post-punch-up dialogue with dawn, sympathetic but almost at times wickedly pantomimic - a gauntleted hand ('yellow canary') on her shoulder ('dreamsicle'):

Late last night I had a dream / I fell asleep in the shadow of success
I confess / And I forgot what freedom means [...] So tonight we dream / We won't wake up / The dream is never done, no"

the comparative arguments against db above are truly the worst and most bovine trumped-up rockism possible imo - gloomily burdensome pseudopersonal narrative, signposted subversion (male gaze flipped on a tediously problematic standard, clutch thee fuckin pearls), abstraction and difficult sounds (or just idm toybox melodies whatever), "ambition" - all privileged over the kaleidoscope of the world with just a tart dismissal as pop, de facto unworthy. for shame you suckers - had the artist names of these records been swapped over you all know damn well none of this would ever have been said

alternate perspective: when I listened to dawn's album i was utterly floored and found myself coming back to it dozens of times. When I listened to the dumblonde album it was very good and deserved further exploration but i didn't capsize.

the dumblonde record is good and fun

I admire blackheart but actually enjoy dumblonde idk

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, December 5, 2015 3:23 AM (5 hours ago)

this is a perfectly reasonable place to be ... not sure if i'm *quite* here but i'm not far off

think we can all agree on: "wow, aubrey/shannon. did not expect this."

side with deej before his spine went

― r|t|c, Saturday, December 5, 2015 8:01 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol dont worry i was just being lazy :D

alternate perspective: when I listened to dawn's album i was utterly floored and found myself coming back to it dozens of times. When I listened to the dumblonde album it was very good and deserved further exploration but i didn't capsize.

― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Saturday, December 5, 2015 10:53 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if a critical judgement happens in a forest, does it make a sound?

the video for 'tender green life' is SO bad but then i found out Aubrey O'Day actually directed it & now it's classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmqgE_nUjwI

like the members of danity kane DIY'd their own branding and only the music is incredible but that enthusiasm completely justifies the odd first timer vibes of the presentation

it reminds me of that time ms paint versions of classic rap albums were going arounds & it was always fascinating to see which details the artist decided to focus on & which were covered in a sloppy drag of an ms paint brush

Apparently they did this whole thing pretty DIY style:

Conversely, Bex and O'Day poured themselves into Dumblonde, not only writing and recording, but, as Bex says, "staying up 'til three in the morning" Photoshopping artwork or perfecting a video edit. (Bex designed the group's logo.)

from http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/dumblonde-rises-from-the-ashes-of-danity-kane/Content?oid=17086829

xp lol yeah it's fun picking out what track might be the "leader" (there isnt one really) and beholding how it subtly alters the weird world of the rest - something about 'tender green life' (including the vid!) brings this kinda like, idk, late alt-90s attitude to consumption of modernity, like it was some offbeat chick group with a dusty cd filed next to beck and money mark somewhere in ur parents attic

alternate perspective: when I listened to dawn's album i was utterly floored and found myself coming back to it dozens of times. When I listened to the dumblonde album it was very good and deserved further exploration but i didn't capsize.

― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 5 December 2015 16:53 Bookmark

maybe best stick to the spotify parasite life if this is "perspective" is all u got to love that which floors

joke is ima bet that i'll still remain the person who said the most ever about the dawn record even in rejecting it

should anyone advance past sounds weird/yaas (they havent yet, anywhere) i'm hungry to listen

Xp lol ya like "waiting on you" is my subjective favorite but in isolation it just sounds like (an admittedly strong) Prince via Daft Punk pastiche any number of artists have aimed for previously, in album context it becomes a partic brilliant facet of the overall jewel

good choice tho. very sick licks

that last minute of 'take away' too, i died and went to j-pop heaven

Sweeping strings are whoa

maybe best stick to the spotify parasite life if this is "perspective" is all u got to love that which floors

but please, tell me more about what washes in the glorious kaleidoscope of the world of pop, which i never listen to, yuck pop, what's that ew yuck, however did i get in the danity kane thread in the first place i wonder.

rtc there is plenty of excellent justification of the dawn richard record in the dawn richard thread

boy do i like the dumblonde record though. gets better every time i hear it. things that initially scanned as underwritten to me are now completely charming

yeah, i look forward to spending more time with it myself. It sounds good on first contact!

I love that I can vote for this album all over again and it feels brand new: https://soundcloud.com/dumblondeofficial/heir-remix

jammed the living hell out of this all summer. pure delight

also impure dee-lite i guess

i saw one person on twitter claim that heir are the sons of the brothers johnson btw lol??? was unable to verify anywhere

comparing the og to tropical 2 before this was born is how you know i'm the shooter

db = alice in wonderland, bbk = the tempest

[10 seconds in] ahhh holy shit

that post was 10 minutes ago so your brain should have exploded right about.... now

if you're referring to "tender green life/that's the way love goes" then

http://i.giphy.com/wqcxtSuUfS0pO.gif

lol ya

i'm glad that recent events led me to finding out that dumblonde album no. 2 is in its final stages

also going over the lyrics of aubrey's 2013 album is sort of sickening now

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-alnm0UE9Y

scared to ask but... what recent events?

donald trump jr alleged to have been in an affair with aubrey o'day lol

yesss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKEaM8YvGbg

love it

US tour happening

DAWN and dumblonde are doing their thing here in Boston on a sunday!!

on THIS sunday i mean.

also this interview. i hate industry motherfuckers ESPECIALLY iovine who i’m sure was aching to replace one of the ddm
women with his side piece la scherz

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/music/a24477124/danity-kane-reunion/

O’Day: When I was doing Celebrity Apprentice, I was doing all these old fashioned looks. I have this amazing hairstylist and he would do all of these classic looks on me in the boardroom and I remember maybe the fourth or fifth episode, two producers came over to me and said, "Aubrey, you're the youngest one we've had here. You're running circles around everyone. Nobody thought you'd do this well, but Trump thinks you're ugly."

What?
O’Day: "He's wanting to get rid of you. He wants to keep the dumb Miss Universe around because she's really pretty and she's hot and he thinks that we'll do better. She gets more ratings." They said, "You are beautiful though and we know that but you’ve got to stop doing like..."

And I'm like, Dude, these looks I'm pulling are classic. All these other bitches are showing up in Forever21 looking budget and I'm over here working with the best people, looking polished. They were like, "I know, but our audience is the NASCAR audience. They don't understand your looks. We're trying to help you. Part your hair down the middle, wear it straight, and wear a tight dress that pushes up your tits."

Richard: That's what they're told, and it's insane because you get it from every gambit. Jimmy Iovine told Kalenna [editor’s note: Kalenna Harper was a member of Dirty Money with Richard; the duo performed with Diddy as Diddy-Dirty Money] and I are to our face, he looked at Puff and said, "Why don't you have two light skinned girls?" In front of a boardroom of fifty people.

Bex: They treat you like you're just something, not someone.

Part your hair down the middle, wear it straight, and wear a tight dress that pushes up your tits.

You know, completely unlike Trump's daughter, to whom who is not at all sexually attracted.

god he’s so gross

lots of hauntingly real lines in that interview

i admire them all and hope the best for them

new dumblonde album:

https://open.spotify.com/album/7JfSdOk8M3ppggTOKmdzDh?si=8kjb5YQRSKmV5mosso5Bbw

some nice little nuggets here
white hot lies probs the standout but maybe thats because i heard it last year