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Ha yeah, come off it Neil.

I liked how Keith Richards in his book complained that he was unjustly tried because (paraphrasing) an actual "jury of his peers" would be Jimmy Page.

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 3 December 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link

I cut this record down to 12 tracks but I am digging it WAY more than expected, can't stop playing it

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 3 December 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link

yeah i mean some of it ("doghouse" for example) is clearly stuff that neil wrote in about 5 minutes, but the high points are pretty high

tylerw, Thursday, 3 December 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link

Poll: Doghouse vs. T-Bone

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 December 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link

T-Bone easy

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 3 December 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link

kinda surreal strings of vignettes adding up to ... what exactly I'm not sure, but they're always interesting. they've all got great turns of phrase, odd details, ambiguous ideas.And this last is key, where the listener can respond, speculate, delve---or not, but either way, there's no little deposit of easy understanding or "understanding."
Ditto Dylan and Miles at some of their best, but, although I do like some of his (and Dylan's and Miles') blunt points & zingers pretty well also, Monsanto, for instance, wouldn't work at all without the scorched earth/Earth Fights Back sound of most tracks (or the startling respite of "Wolf Moon," and a few other places).
Considering lyrics only, it can be like xgau says, comparing a couple of Randy Newman albums:
Born Again [Warner Bros., 1979]
This has more content and feeling than Little Criminals. But as with Little Criminals its highlight is a (great) joke--"The Story of a Rock and Roll Band," which ought to be called "E.L.O." and isn't, for the same reason supergroupie radio programmers have shied away from it. Hence, the content comprises ever more intricate convolutions of bad taste; rather than making you think about homophobes and heavy-metal toughs and me-decade assholes the way he once made you think about rednecks and slave traders and high school belles, he makes you think about how he feels about them. Which just isn't as interesting. B+

Fortunately, Neil still comes up with the more elliptical lyrics at times, even when he has to dig 'em up (but, come to think of it, what about those oblique scenes from a marriage on Psychedelic Pill...)

dow, Thursday, 3 December 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link

Monsanto, for instance, wouldn't work at all without the scorched earth/Earth Fights Back sound of most tracks (or the startling respite of "Wolf Moon," and a few other places).

just wanna reiterate that this record is really very good and worth yr time, Neil fans

sleeve, Thursday, 3 December 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link

I really like Doghouse!

mizzell, Friday, 4 December 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link

Really want a live album from the Monsanto tour

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 December 2015 02:13 (eight years ago) link

#DoghouseDoghouse

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 December 2015 02:30 (eight years ago) link

just popping in to say that,

I have my friends in the world
i had my friends when we were boys and girls
and the secrets came unfurlled

is such a good lyric.

Heez, Friday, 4 December 2015 05:36 (eight years ago) link

oh hey, thread-within-a-thread, but what was everybody's first Neil LP?

Mine was Weld. Bought it aged 17 because Pearl Jam, who I worshipped, covered Rockin' In The Free World, and the music press was all 'Godfather Of Grunge' at the time, and so I thought I needed to hear this dude. Bought it on vinyl, played Hey Hey My My (the opening track), and immediately took it back to the record shop because I was convinced that distorted growl of a guitar-sound must've been the result of a mispressing. That wasn't an embarrassing afternoon at all, no sir.

I don't have the time or energy to make a counterargument (stevie), Friday, 4 December 2015 11:36 (eight years ago) link

"Cinnamon Girl" was on the mixtape ROCK ROCK ROCK PLAY IT LOUD my dad made for me when I was a kid.

Think the first Neil album I bought was Ragged Glory, prob because I had seen Year of the Horse... Shortly after I got Harvest, Zuma, On the Beach, Freedom, Tonight's the Night and After the Gold Rush for like 5 dollars each in my local cd store - bargain of a lifetime.

niels, Friday, 4 December 2015 11:58 (eight years ago) link

I think I will put Cinnamon Girl on the first mixtape I make my daughter. She started dancing to it the other day while I was playing it (she is 18months).

I don't have the time or energy to make a counterargument (stevie), Friday, 4 December 2015 12:33 (eight years ago) link

I think I started with Live Rust. The version of "Like a Hurricane" on there still destroys me. (You would think making it twice as long would make it twice as awesome, but Weld proves that ain't the case.)

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 4 December 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link

I got Freedom from BMG in the mail. Though Heart of Gold was one of those songs that really stuck out to me on classic rock radio when I was a little kid.

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 December 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

for me, suddenly my older brother acquired like 10 neil young albums around the time of ragged glory / weld ... i think it was those first few tunes on weld that really blew my mind.

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

my first was Decade, then a bootleg called Touch The Cloud, then probably EKTIN

sleeve, Friday, 4 December 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link

#DoghouseDoghouse

― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, December 3, 2015 8:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There is an alternate universe where "This Note's For You" sold a little better and instead of "Freedom" Neil made a second Blue Notes lp. The first single of which was "Doghouse" and on the back of a hugely popular video of Neil interacting with a cute/funny animated dog ("Video of the Year" winner), "Doghouse" becomes a number one hit song for weeks, becoming far and away Neil's most famous song. To the point that everyone thinks of him as "that guy with the dog song".

And there is a current day alternate ILM where tyler & UMS are constantly trying to convince people that Neil is more that "just that "Doghouse" song guy"

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 4 December 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

Borrowed Decade from my uncle because Neil looked cool like a metal dude, never returned it. Have bought every single Neil album on the day of release (except for Americana, which broke this streak) since Freedom

Neil acoustic with the Indigo Girls was my second concert ever (6/14/89) (after Sha Na Na five years earlier, which doesn't really count)

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 4 December 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/B_JpsSLwsE0/hqdefault.jpg

"Livin in the doghouse"

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 4 December 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

xp
"'Doghouse' put me back in the middle of the road," Young wrote in the liners to his 1997 greatest hits collection Still Doggin'. "Traveling there was rockin' so I stayed right there. Awoooooo!!!!"

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link

As a little kid in the late 60s / early 70s, the Neil albums I heard around the house were the Buffalo Springfield Retrospective comp and the first CSNY album. I don't think I saw any Neil solo albums until a few years later, when everyone seemed to have a copy of Decade. Among my high school / college friends, Live Rust was the big one.

Brad C., Friday, 4 December 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

Decade, then Tonight's the Night, then Everybody Knows (and the 1973 2LP Buffalo Springfield comp on the same day). All late '81/early '82.

phở intellectual (WilliamC), Friday, 4 December 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link

I recently discovered that this fantastic festival show with Booker T. and the MG's I was at in 1993 was recorded and uploaded last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbay4CptzDQ

Mr Soul
The Loner
Southern Man
Helpless (w/false start where he plays a completely different harmonica tune the second time, still impressed by that)
Like a Hurricane
Take a Chance on Love
Separate Ways (still unreleased, look out for Cropper's excellent guitar skills)
Powder Finger
Only Love Can Break Your Heart
Harvest Moon
The Needle and the Damage Done
Live to Ride (still unreleased)
Down by the River
All Along the Watchtower

Neil Young - vocals, guitar, harmonica, piano
Booker T. Jones - organ, synthesizer, vocals
Steve Cropper - guitar
Donald 'Duck' Dunn - bass
Jim Keltner - drums
Astrid Young - backup vocals
Annie Stocking - backup vocals

StanM, Friday, 4 December 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link

as is (maybe?) usual, i originally confused neil young with neil diamond ...
my brother: "this guy has some crazy guitar records!"
me: "the 'sweet caroline' guy?!"

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

ooh nice that torhout show was my go-to booker t/neil bootleg when i was a teenager -- didn't know there was a video, though!

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link

one of those heads is me but I don't remember where exactly I was standing :-)

StanM, Friday, 4 December 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link

i came to neil late. pretty sure i bought harvest and after the goldrush in college (98/99) when i was buying lots of used records, but i was more into pysch and pop stuff. i owe my fandom to my wife who had a ton of his stuff and was a big fan when we met.

mizzell, Friday, 4 December 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

my first Neil album that I personally bought was Ragged Glory, although my parents had a copy of Harvest (I do not recall them ever listening to it though)

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 December 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link

as is (maybe?) usual, i originally confused neil young with neil diamond ...
my brother: "this guy has some crazy guitar records!"
me: "the 'sweet caroline' guy?!"

― tylerw, Friday, December 4, 2015 10:53 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My brother and sister-in-law made this mistake recently. They texted my wife when they were out someplace, and said "don't you guys like Neil Diamond?" I guess they saw a t-shirt or poster or something and wanted to buy it for us. Ha!

I told her she should have said, "no, it's Neil Hagerty we like." (also true)

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 4 December 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

lol, there should definitely be one of those bob marley / jimi hendrix t-shirts with neil young / neil diamond

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

Would totally buy a black-and-silver Jazz Singer-style shirt that said Neil Young & Crazy Horse

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 4 December 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah, maybe this, with "Tonight's The Night" replacing "The Jazz Singer"
http://www.buildthesong.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Jazz-Singer.jpg

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

My first Neil show was the first night of the "Weld" tour, Jan 22 1991, totally awesome. I believe the only time they did "Campaigner" on tour, which is something I only really appreciate now. Sonic Youth opened, only made through a handful of songs cuz Kim was having amp problems, I remember her storming offstage and Thrust dealing with hecklers.

I was fully into "Ragged Glory" at that point, probably still one of the best shows I've ever seen.

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 4 December 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

"'Doghouse' put me back in the middle of the road," Young wrote in the liners to his 1997 greatest hits collection Still Doggin'. "Traveling there was rockin' so I stayed right there. Awoooooo!!!!"

A+

a (waterface), Friday, 4 December 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

Should be a Young Diamond band---like, say, Beatallica, but moreso.

dow, Friday, 4 December 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link

#DoghouseDoghouse
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, December 3, 2015 8:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There is an alternate universe where "This Note's For You" sold a little better and instead of "Freedom" Neil made a second Blue Notes lp. The first single of which was "Doghouse" and on the back of a hugely popular video of Neil interacting with a cute/funny animated dog ("Video of the Year" winner), "Doghouse" becomes a number one hit song for weeks, becoming far and away Neil's most famous song. To the point that everyone thinks of him as "that guy with the dog song".

And there is a current day alternate ILM where tyler & UMS are constantly trying to convince people that Neil is more that "just that "Doghouse" song guy"

― chr1sb3singer, Friday, December 4, 2015 9:19 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i want to live in this world

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 December 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link

like neil's david foster wallace costume in this booker t gig

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 December 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link

my first neil record was Decade, got it for Christmas because a friend told my mom to pick it up for me. that is a bro.

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 4 December 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link

Decade really is the best greatest hits kinda deal -- just a great listen from beginning to end.

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

yeah it's still my standby neil mix. plus doghouse

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 4 December 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link

would be cool if it turned out neil wrote "doghouse" during the zuma sessions, but he felt like it was too heavy to put out at the time. "this shit is too real! too real!"

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link

lost ducks demo on archives 2

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 4 December 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link

Got a feeling it went a little more like this:

Frank: "Hey Neil check out, I can use the synth to make a dog barking noise!"
Neil: "I will write a song called "Doghouse" and we will play it every night, it's done, I've already finished writing it."

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 4 December 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

lollll

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

I have never even heard of this song before this thread, but you guys are making me want to hear it

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 December 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

If anything we are under selling it

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 4 December 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

http://www.datadoggie.com/images/doghouse.gif

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link

do we know who did the "Dog house...dog....house" vocal on that song? or was it a sample?

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 December 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link


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