Hatred of Itunes

you can save playlists as files and import them with whatever new mp3 player you use

sorta offtopic and i mentioned elsewhere, but seriously, get Cesium for your iDevice. You can end the pain on iOS at least.

I've found that if I edit track tags, add new files, delete files, etc while in the main My Music view iTunes as a whole just freezes up for a couple of minutes since upgrading to the latest version. Doesn't happen if I make the changes within a playlist, or when I've searched for a specific artist/title, minimising the files on display. Frustrating if I forget. 6 years of playlists plus iDevices leave me reluctant to move away from iTunes, plus I'm happy enough with the interface in general.

I'd love to leave iTunes and would in a second if there was a great alternative but there's not. And yes, iTunes is ultimately pretty powerful and great but like Word it is now dragged down by uselessness (the whole multimedia and device management functionality) which adds to the complexity and creates nasty legacy issues.

In certain views, iTunes scrolls tens of thousands of files well but in other views it sputters along. But given Apple's drive to streaming, I do not think these issues will improve until I can roll my own streaming service.

I've actually been OK with iTunes lately. It's the airplay feature that drives me nuts. So temperamental, constantly dropping the signal.

thx lukas

I've been running into some really irritating shit- I have a large library, so of course I want to manage the stuff on my iphone manually, just dragging and dropping what I want (or, now that they've dropped the sidebar by default and I would have to keep turning it on every time I started itunes because it doesn't remember that setting, RGH, doing a group-select->right click->add to playlist->my iphone). Now they've added this fucking stupid thing where purchased music on my phone has both "delete" and "remove download" options if I'm managing it directly from the phone's Music app, and as far as I can tell, the difference is "remove download" takes it off the device (but still leaves a library entry for it on the phone's Music app because haha fuck you) and "delete" apparently deletes it FROM YOUR ITUNES LIBRARY. Like, all synced devices, and hides it in your itunes store account. Who wants that? Who thought that was a good idea?

I'm also finding that if I browse my iphone's library while it's connected via USB to itunes on my PC and delete stuff to make room for new music, about half the time it will delete it from that view- meaning I can't see it on my PC's itunes while the phone is connected- but the files will still be on the phone.

JESUS CHRIST APPLE GET YOUR/MY SHIT TOGETHER

Maybe the reason I'm not running into problems is that I don't have an iPhone and I'm never syncing stuff? Hmm ...

intelligently syncing media across multiple devices with vastly different storage capacities and use cases is admittedly difficult but apple has been hopeless at it (just try disentangling the photo sync options available for instance)

Syncing generally isn't a problem for me since I'm only syncing an iPod Classic via USB. I create On The Go playlists during the day as necessary and update stuff when I get home.

i get that it's difficult to create software that will sync media across multiple platforms/devices. i don't get why it keeps getting worse with every new version of itunes. or why itunes' most basic function (sorting/playing media) keeps getting more cumbersome and terrible to look at.

All of Apple's software has been steadily getting uglier, more bloated, more cumbersome and less useful, especially iTunes, iPhoto and iMovie. Waiting for them to introduce a talking paperclip that walks you through everything.

Photos is an improvement over iPhoto, for sure.

Scotch-taping a polaroid picture to your computer monitor would've been an improvement over iPhoto.

I'm getting a new computer today, looking forward to leaping up several generations of tech and software immediately, after the hassle of transferring everything over.

I love that feeling. Also the feeling of having a clean install

Pp, true true

The more Apple follows Google's horrible eyesore of a UX/UI, the worse it becomes. And iTunes is no different.

And yo Tracer, syncing media across multiple platforms (let alone dealing with all the charming legacy issues) is no easy trick but it's something Apple's been (trying) doing since the iPod. Am kind of expecting it to really just work at some point.

yes cosine

I guess we're supposed to sit back and assume that STREAMING WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING.

yep

files on your own computer are so 2011

I finally abandoned iTunes and having files on my computer. Since I haven't had a real desktop in years, the hard drives have too small for my iTunes library, so I use Spotify and then records when I really want to listen to music.

I miss having some not-officially-released tracks that were in my library but Spotify handles 99% of it without issue.

you are freaking me out

i couldn't see an album in the Music app on my iPhone that i knew i had, had to use search to find it

album displays fine in cesium - that was crashing for a while but seems fixed, so goodbye Music

had to use apple music again today and the UI is just spectacularly, hallucinatorily bad, it is crazy

even if it were the nutz though, the fact that it forgets what what point you were in the song you were listening to (like, ahem dj mixes), if it has to unload itself from your iphone's memory, is unforgiveable

iTunes' flakiness had been getting so bad for me that last night I deleted all playlists, music, everything and reimported my files. I hadn't reset my iTunes library in close to 10 years so who knows what the library files were looking like.

So much better now!

Not being able to edit stream URLs in the info box anymore really pisses me off. My WFMU stream's playcount was at 4500+ until they changed the stream address the other day.

iTunes has crashed and deleted my entire library twice in the last couple of months.

I really can't be bothered to reinstall it all this time, I'm just streaming shit for the time being.

itunes now won't add new podcasts, synch with my ipad or let me access my old purchases. nice work, apple.

For some reason starting today, whenever I manually copy music from my library to my iPhone, it doesn't copy the artwork- each track I copy to my phone has its artwork replaced with a seemingly random other track's. I've updated iTunes and my phone but I can't find any way around it.

lolll forever at this piece of shit program, it's really quite something

the 'rack of guitars' icon for the "genres" column label is nice though

just had to use it this week. ipod no longer has any menus associated with it. you need to click on a tiny icon to access it.

I thought this retrohack was pretty clever, though I doubt I'd ever commit to such a project:
http://imgur.com/a/VmT9e

Does anybody use Roon?

kudos to dude for having ifixit's guide that also shows pictures and steps to do exactly what he's doing open in the background.

i don't think i've updated iTunes in years

I desperately want to buy something off iTunes Japan, is this easy to do or do I have to jump through a shit ton of hoops

The purchase of digital media from countries other than your own almost always involves a piracy-promotingly high level of hoop jumping.

and likely you can "find" it online somewhere

I wish - there's a few things that haven't appeared in the usual spots yet

Was hoping someone developed a more streamlined process where you could just PayPal and get the MP3s, but I guess not - everything involves buying weird gift cards and changing a bunch of iTunes settings

Depends on how obscure your needs are, I suppose. Depending on the genre, there are lots of forums/message boards where I've found a request will go a long ways. Too bad we can't have a request thread for that kind of thing around here or ILM, but the mods don't like it.

slsk

yw

otm

(hi tracer!)

hello dandy don :)

yeah no luck there either

is it in japanese?

one of them is - I've searched for both the English and Japanese titles

have you ever seen them posted online in a search? Like, you located what you were looking for but the link to the file(s) was dead?