ah no i was referring to zora jones with the grime description, not arca
I guess this more recent evolution of grime is pretty interesting - that the idea of the MC and beats in general are almost being peeled back to reveal just what's underneath; the inner workings
instrumental grime is sometimes good (and not new in any sense) but in general shifting the focus away from the MC is a boring development
― lex pretend, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link
how would simon reynolds answer this question?
― flopson, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link
"Bleep bloop blorp..."
― scott seward, Monday, 30 November 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link
at least with Arca it's the molten, elastic, slippery quality- his stuff has so much caprice in the way forms come and go- even programming intensive 90s IDM tended to have a metronomic hi hat grid that ticked away underneath the fancy snare workouts. To my ears, the Arca / M.E.S.H. moment is about giving up the grid and being a lot less reliable, formally. It's spiritually akin to IDM but not the same formally.
― the tune was space, Monday, November 30, 2015 8:53 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well said.
btw people who have only heard Arca's albums should check out his Stretch EPs and the &&&&& mixtape, they're much more beat-oriented and accessible. maybe not quite as singular, but i come back to them more often.
― expertly crafted referential display name (Jordan), Monday, 30 November 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link
he's also a really sick DJ, I just DJed with him in Iceland last week and he melts down other people's songs in a very startling way when he Djs
― the tune was space, Monday, 30 November 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link
would love to hear that!
― expertly crafted referential display name (Jordan), Monday, 30 November 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
http://killedincars.tumblr.com/image/135585989879
― spiritual hat gaz (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 10 January 2016 14:14 (eight years ago) link
Hmmm
^I suspect this probably hits a lot of the bases when answering this question
― spiritual hat gaz (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 10 January 2016 14:15 (eight years ago) link
I thought that this topic, perhaps more than any other, merits a 2016 thread, so I made one - What sounds cutting edge in 2016?
― neilasimpson, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 10:33 (eight years ago) link