Mother 3! The sequel to Earthbound!

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oh my gosh I love Undertale SO MUCH

cory artangel (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 27 November 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...
two years pass...

y'all I am finally playing thru Mother 3 rn and it makes me so happy that I want to cry
also I feel like as a game this game is better than EarthBound

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

Please note when this gets an okay for US Release; looks funnables.
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hahahahahahahahahahahhahaa

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

this made me irl lol

https://lparchive.org/Mother-3/Update%2010/51-44.png

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

yeah it's better than earthbound in all aspects imo

ciderpress, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

i am mr. passion

ciderpress, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link

omg i love mr passion

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

i'm rly annoyed at how hard Masked Man is and i'm EVEN MORE MAD that when i tried to google battle strategies i got massive spoilers instead

>:(

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 December 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

how are you playing this Stevie?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

I have a translated ROM and I've been bouncing back and forth between an emulator on my Wii and an emulator on my Android tablet (transferring the save file back and forth) but I finally set up my Raspberry Pi so now I'm finishing it on that

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 8 December 2018 03:54 (five years ago) link

oh wow. I'm really hoping they make some sort of ROM I can play on my SNES mini.

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 8 December 2018 10:14 (five years ago) link

Doubtful, since it was a GBA game. Have you looked into the Raspberry Pi much? It’s $35 and you can build it out as an emulation box and fit literally every game for every console ever made up through the 16 bit era on a small SD card.

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 8 December 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link

belatedly, this is one of the few RPGs where stat up/stat down spells are not completely useless in practice, and in fact are necessary for most of the bosses

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

Stat buffs and debuffs are pretty much essential in Dragon Quest games(which is appropriate given how much inspiration the Mother series took from there), less so in Final Fantasy.

The only way Mother 3 would ever run on a SNES Mini is if you hacked it and installed Retroarch. There are plenty of devices that support GBA emulation though, even a soft-modded Wii will do it sufficiently.

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link

i feel like i'm a retropie factory this holiday season. built about 4 so far and about to start saying no

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link

waaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh i finished it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 16 December 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

So uhhhh how exactly do I go about playing this thing? Does everyone just use computer roms/emulators of the translated version?

I’d love to figure out how I could get it on my 3DS but I know like nothing about homebrew and hacking and shit. (I just finished Earthbound so naturally I need to get on this)

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 3 May 2020 05:44 (three years ago) link

yeah it shouldn't be too hard to find a patched or translated rom, also there are a lot of ppl who sell the eng. translation as a bootleg gba cart on ebay. love mother 3, beautiful game, get in there!

lumen (esby), Sunday, 3 May 2020 05:59 (three years ago) link

3ds can't play gba games at least not from a cartridge so yeah you'd have to do some hacking stuff or get an actual gba or emulate it on pc

ciderpress, Sunday, 3 May 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link

Huh, I googled about cartridges and apparently there are quite a few bootleg English cartridges of the game on Etsy! I think I might go with one of those and just try to find a GBA somewhere. Thank you!!

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 3 May 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

Apparently they still make r4 cards!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 May 2020 07:02 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

did you ever play this? it's like... better than earthbound

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 29 May 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

omg i wanna play this

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 May 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

me too. don't have any real way to do it though, unless ps4 is now an option? or SNES mini

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 29 May 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

literally it's so fucking good, it has all the charm of EarthBound but where EB was incredibly formulaic in terms of gameplay and narrative and linearity, Mother 3 shakes things up a lot more.

I think you p much have to play it with a GBA emulator on a computer, they still haven't released any official English translation

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 29 May 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link

this is far from optimal but it works
https://www.playemulator.com/gba-online/mother-3/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 May 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

heard it got cancelled

||||||||, Friday, 29 May 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

RIP mother 3, too problematic for our modern times ;_;

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 29 May 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

one thing you have to watch out for with emulation is that it's really hard to get the audio properly synced. the battle system is rhythm based so you're not going to have a very good time.

you can buy reproduction carts with the translated version on 3t5y and 3b4y then pop it into your beautiful DS Lite

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

oh yeah i forgot about that, my brain eventually got the hang of it but it was undoubtedly trickier than the real thing. certain emulators are much better than others (I think mGBA is supposed to be good?) and I think there are settings you can tweak to adjust the latency

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

I wound up ordering a GBA cartridge of the translated version from Etsy. It works extremely well!! They’re only $15 USD plus shipping too. If anyone wants to play it I’d say that’s probably the best way to go if emulators aren’t your thing. I haven’t had any issues with the rhythm battles either

I actually just finished chapter six and, like, holy shit, this thing is incredible. I don’t know how this ends but I’m guessing I’m gonna get emotionally wrecked.

I’m surprised at how different it is from EarthBound actually! The gameplay in EarthBound was dense and the world it created was very strange in the best way, but there wasn’t much of a story. This one, however, has a beautiful story and the world in it is lots of fun to explore. You’ll want to talk to everyone and inspect everything just to read the humourous script. And the music is top notch

Maybe my one complaint about it is that I wish the battles were harder? I didn’t die a lot in Earthbound but the battles in it were so tense and thrilling, whereas I seem to be just coasting through this thing. There is some interesting stuff going on it though — and katherine’s comment up thread about how stats up/down spells are actually important in this game is very true.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 31 May 2020 08:22 (three years ago) link

all of that is incredibly OTM. It retains the quirk and joy of EB but it has many heavy themes that make the overall vibe a little less breezy and lighthearted

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

I take back my previous comment about difficulty - these last two chapters are tough!!!

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

too problematic for our modern times ;_;

― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, May 29, 2020 12:07 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

hoo boy um yeah

but yes this is somehow better than earthbound

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 8 June 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

i enjoy that when you're playing as duster your attack combos express themselves as a wicked slap bass solo

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 8 June 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link

If you have a mac and want to use an emulator OpenEmu is the best program.

Evan, Monday, 8 June 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link

I finished this last night at like 1 a.m. and uh yeah that ending is just devastating

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 8 June 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

I wound up ordering a GBA cartridge of the translated version from Etsy. It works extremely well!! They’re only $15 USD plus shipping too. If anyone wants to play it I’d say that’s probably the best way to go if emulators aren’t your thing.

I only have a gameboy color. By any chance could this work for me?

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link

it's a gba game so no, you're 1 generation behind

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link

well that was an incredible game

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link

i think i prefer earthbound slightly bc nothing in mother 3 really rivals finding the inverted world in that one cafe or your soul traveling through time in a robot body but it sure was emotionally devastating on a level i've never felt from a video game before

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

Earthbound mechanically is just slow and brutal... I don't think I'd have ever gotten through it without emulator speed-up cheating.
Mother 3 is superior in virtually every aspect, though it owes so much to the previous two entries.
I grinded through it on emulator with the bad sound sync which made it a lot harder than it should've been, many years back. I don't know if emulators are better now with that. Or, can a Pi do it now with the sound timing intact?

I wonder, the English translation of Mother 1 worth going through? Love the music, but I doubt I'd make it through the game.

Nhex, Monday, 15 June 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link

oh i mean in terms of gameplay no contest mother 3 is the better game, i'm talking more in terms of the ideas in each

though i've played earthbound twice with an emulator and never thought it slow or brutal

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link

I wonder, the English translation of Mother 1 worth going through? Love the music, but I doubt I'd make it through the game.

I ordered a translated copy of Mother 1+2 a few days ago so I’m about to find out. will report back with my results. I know there are hacked versions with an “easy ring” item that double your xp and cash, but I’m curious about its difficulty..

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 15 June 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link

I played Mother 3 on a Pi and fucked w the settings enough to get the audio to a point where I could pull off combos reliably (tho it still required a shift in my head of hitting the button just slightly before the beat I think)

The impression I get of Mother gameplay-wise is that it is VERY much a product of its time in a way that ages very poorly, like difficult and monotonous and a bit of a slog, to the point where the vibe I get is that a lot of players prefer the Easy Ring bcz it just makes it more tolerable

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 15 June 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link

I will say that although M3 is the superior game in every way, EB is still my fav bcz it was the one i played first and also the overall tone is a little more lighthearted, also it has a gay child who's in love w his best friend which helloooo queer visibility way ahead of its time

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 15 June 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

speaking of queer visibility, my understanding from the way people talk about it whenever i google it is that the magyspies are the reason nintendo won't ever put out mother 3 internationally. i am personally fine with an immortal race of genderqueer drag queens who keep the world whole through their presence. it was fassad that rankled (but then *SPOILER* he is also a magypsy, which makes me feel better about it)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

also i'm just now picking up on "fassad" = "facade." i bet the fans who translated the game think they're hilarious for this

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

Mother 3 is more sophisticated than Earthbound, but comparing the two feels like apples and oranges. I feel similarly about, idk, SMB & SMB3.

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link


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