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Dan (FISHED IN) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I never really liked them, but I always figured they were pretty cool.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link

This album is, as they say, "a grow-er not a show-er". It has really grown on me, and seems best when you're writing and you just want something that flows.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

yes this alb is def a grower (even if in places it does sound a lot like Tides by Arovane)

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

By this point, Boards of Canada just make Boards of Canada records. They've settled on their style, now they're just tweaking and modifying. Either you like it or you don't. I personally think the new album is a little slick and Zero 7-esque, without enough of the unsettling elements of their prior work, but it's still a fine record.

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Monday, 19 December 2005 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

it's shit, i'm sorry. i really am. but it's shit.

Carl Handwriting (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"Peacock Tail" is immense, idn't it?

i've been thinking that this seems such a strange thing to say, since dayvan cowboy comes right after and out-immensifies it to bits (after the long intro)

ronny longjohns (ronny longjohns), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
The more I hear this record the more sure I become that it is one of the best records ever made. A bold claim I know, but I'm really starting to get the impression that BoC have done something really quite special. The ulrich schnauss comparison upthread is quite interesting as I head him for the first time last night and was pretty underwhelmed by its artificiallity and the tedium which each song descended into after a while, the beats in particular. The level of detail on each and every aspect of each and every one of the tracks on the campfire headphase, to my ear, is utterly unlike anything else I have ever heard. The really great thing about it is that it just doesn't sound like electronic music. I can't help but feel like I'm responding to it in a way that doesn't quite fit with anything else I've felt before.


the ultimate indicator of pre-release hype:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Boards-of-canada-Kaleidoscope-very-Rare-Warp-Skam-Aphex_W0QQitemZ4773127933QQcategoryZ9991QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

...um, it's a kaleidoscope (considering the highest bid so far, it must be a magic one.)

-- venimdenim (venimdeni...), October 2nd, 2005.

Not that I'm an expert on kaleidoscopes or anything but a friend of mine has one of these and it is absolutely beautiful.

hmmm (hmmm), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

i really just don't get this album. it's soooo boring and sounds like a cheap late-90s "chill-out" record.

Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Ulrich Schnauss is awful compared to anything, never mind this record.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Fair point, but he and BoC could be put into the same category. I think it would be a mistake to do so as there are a number of layers of additional complexity on TCH which raises it from 'chill-out' (although I think it can be listened to in such a way) to something else entirely.

hmmm (hmmm), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

it just sounds completely unadventurous, especially compared to their previous output, to my ears and i've really tried to like it.

Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

neil, you've convinced me to give it another go, certainly ...

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 14 January 2006 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Excellent. I am most glad.

Wogan - it may be the case that it is adventuring in ways other than those you are expecting or desiring.

hmmm (hmmm), Saturday, 14 January 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

It's their best record. It has their best tunes on it.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Saturday, 14 January 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know if it's their best. It's the only one I really listen to at the moment. It is about detail, and it repays concentration and effort. Now I'm not saying all music should do that, but BoC seem to rely on these very precise sound textures more than most groups that they're usually compared to. I can see how superficially it might seem banal, but I keep coming back to Campfire and it keeps repaying me with new feelings or new experiences. And at the same time Nick is right because it's their poppest album. I think ditching (or hiding) the vocal samples was a smart move - that was the one trick from Music Has or Geogaddi that wouldn't have worked again.

Sinister Oink Kingpin (noodle vague), Saturday, 14 January 2006 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"Peacock Tail" is immense, idn't it?

-- Nöödle Vägue (noodle vague), Thursday, 20 October 2005 20:11 (1 year ago) Link
Yes, yes it is.

-- Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 October 2005 20:21 (1 year ago) Link

I've just listened to this on repeat for about 3 or 4 hours whilst writing poetry. I've decided it might actually be better than Dayvan Cowboy. It. Is. Astonishing. One of the truly great chord-progressions.

Just got offed, Monday, 13 August 2007 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

This record is Ok. I think the lack of using the odd vocal samples is more telling than using a few guitar samples. BOC cutting up some odd vocal samples over some of their tracks was the icing on the cake. You take those odd ball "orange" out of there and the tracks are not quite as otherworldly. I think it is also possible that Boards of Canada felt like the using the cut up vocal samples was a bit of a crutch and went at these recordings with the idea of pull it off without using them.

earlnash, Monday, 13 August 2007 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

i fuck with this but i hope the next one is better

and what, Saturday, 24 May 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i fuck with this but i hope the next one is better

a weighty sentiment

Lowell N. Behold'n, Sunday, 25 May 2008 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Surely the Album they were trying to make all along...a mix of 70's school and collages nature programmes and test card music...

sonnyboy, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i like this album...

stephen, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Early on I complained about the easy-listening (perceived as generic) qualities of TCH. Those qualities are the reason i've returned to this album again and again. Just buttery, effortless-sounding tracks that put my mind at ease.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Monday, 26 May 2008 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

peacock tail is still sublime

ciderpress, Monday, 26 May 2008 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Farewell Fire, guys

baaderonixx, Monday, 26 May 2008 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link

peacock tail is still sublime

Yeah, I also like Dayvan Cowboy a lot.

chap, Monday, 26 May 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

those two songs might be my favourite pair (as a pair) of songs this decade, and the last 1:20 of chromakey dreamcoat is possibly even better; the rest is mostly very good but as ethan says it would be great if the next album kept to TCH's initial level of quality throughout

nontheless, history will look upon this record very, very kindly

OMG i just discovered literally this second that hey saturday sun is a reworking of satellite anthem icarus, inevitably i prefer the first version, that first 22 minute stretch is unfuckable with

Just got offed, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

last 1:20 of chromakey dreamcoat is pretty much the pinnacle of 00's mood music, it ought to go on for twenty minutes

Just got offed, Thursday, 26 June 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

this is the only BoC album that i like. head and shoulders above everything else they did, it doesnt sound like they are trying too hard.

pipecock, Friday, 27 June 2008 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I wouldn't say it's head & shoulders above everything else they've done (I still think ROYGBIV and Kid For Today are perhaps their pinnacles), but is has, bar those two songs, got most of my favourite BoC tunes on it.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I still don't see the appeal of this compared to pretty much everything else they'd done. It's basically just a 90s chill out album, devoid of any of the personality of the previous two LPs. It just bounces along quite boringly, there's none of the mystery of Geogaddi nor the playfulness of Music Has The Right, and yet nothing to fill that void. Why in 2005 would I have wanted to listen to some sort of mowed-over rip off of Moon Safari?

the next grozart, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:08 (fifteen years ago) link

what may have put me off was the pitchfork interview of the time where BoC basically destroyed any of the mystique they'd built up around themselves over the years and said in so many words that they were only interested in making nice music. THat's a bit like Kiss saying they'll never wear facepaint again.

the next grozart, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:11 (fifteen years ago) link

See, I don't think I'd invested ANYTHING AT ALL in BoC's mythology or mystery, and thus couldn't give a shit that they were brothers who wanted to make music. This album, song for song, just contains the music they've made that moves me most.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Music has the right is still my favourite by a long shot but then again I've yet to hear the Campfire... Geogaddi never grabbed me although the weird middle eastern vibe on 'alpha & omega' is awesome. Twoism was incredibly overrated especially after all the fuss that greeted its re-release.

sam500, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Fair enough, you don't have to invest in all that stuff. For me it was something that set them aside from other bands making a similar noise - backwards samples of Waco prophets, references to the fibonacci sequence etc.

I admit maybe it was time to jack a lot of that stuff in before it became clichéd. But all the same it doesn't stop Dayvan Cowboy sounding like Mondeo chill out Buddha Bar nonsense to me. I really wanted the follow up to Geogaddi to continue further into the bad-trip psychedelic nightmare it hinted at.

I had this vision of BOC's trajectory whereby Music Has The Right was the fluffy playful album with an innocuous surface but a slightly uncomfortable undertone (the closing warning seemed to hint that there was something more deep seated than this ambient loveliness). In a Beautiful Place and Geogaddi follow with a more confirmed feeling of paranoia (Energy Warning, Beware The Friendly Stranger etc). I was really expecting them to come out with a hysterical dark album, as would have been a logical conclusion to the cycle, but instead it's just lazy guitars and shimmery synths. It doesn't do anything for me other than make me think of adverts for Dulux paint and Herbal Essences bubblebath.

I guess that's just me and what I expect I suppose. Note I was a HUGE fan of this band and invested a lot of time in them at the beginning of the decade and so to be given an album of "just nice tunes" is a bit of a downer for me.

the next grozart, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:34 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

the next grozart, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i pretty much agree with ya, i've always thought TCH just lacks depth, and it's never held my interest.

ledge, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link

That's all fair enough, Grozart, and I can see that had I been that emotionally invested in them then TCH would probably be a big disappointment to me too.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I can relate to what Grozart is saying but the last few times I played this, on late sunny afternoons, it totally fit the mood. Different records for differnt times, I guess.

baaderonixx, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i may need to give it one last try.

the next grozart, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:08 (fifteen years ago) link

take it on its own terms, y'know?

the next grozart, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Though I wasn't in love with it at the time, this has become the album that I turn to when I want to listen to BoC these days. MHTRTC and Geogaddi are still great, but the former sometimes sounds a little chintzy and the latter has never been served well by all those interludes.

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:24 (fifteen years ago) link

the interludes are what make it BOC dude!

the next grozart, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link

haha dog latin is making me consider bothering with this. was never a huge BoC guy but maybe if they made nicer music i'd like 'em more.

banriquit, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Odd this should kick off on the morning I decide to listen to the album again for the first time in months, if not years.

Rob M v2, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:34 (fifteen years ago) link

"Dayvan Cowboy" is Mondeo chill out bar Buddha nonsense? I shake my head at you. Sometimes, keeping it (fairly) simple is the way to go. Especially when you can get such uniquely blissful sounds out of your instruments. Sonically and structurally, this album and Moon Safari are miles apart.

Just got offed, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:47 (fifteen years ago) link

louis, what do you think of their other albums just out of interest?

the next grozart, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like Music Has The Right To Children although I'm rarely tempted to listen to it ahead of TCH. Geogaddi I have but I don't really ever stick it on. Maybe I should rectify this! My brother has every single BoC release, obscure or otherwise, just in case I need to hear some of the non-album stuff. TCH is just so much...meatier, so completely at one with its own blissed-out vibe. It's hard to explain but the addition of guitar-sounds probably appeals to some sort of electro-friendly rockist in me. :D

Just got offed, Friday, 27 June 2008 10:02 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i think the guitar factor puts me off as well really. don't know why, it just seems like an unnecessary gimmick to appeal to Q magazine critics. gone are the analog synths and gnomic samples, here's some lush strings and slow picked guitar.

I think Geogaddi and In A Beautiful Place Out In The Country are my favourite releases by BOC. I've always enjoyed their eviler undertones as I said. MHTRTC is great too but I may have over-listened to it. Geogaddi is claustrophobic and messy in many places but I think it's also their most detailed and interesting.

the next grozart, Friday, 27 June 2008 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Probably, Geogaddi is the one I admire most but tbh I haven't played in years. 'Beautiful Place' is the one I never tire of.

baaderonixx, Friday, 27 June 2008 10:16 (fifteen years ago) link


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