How Many ILM Posters Ever Saw GG Allin Live?

You diagnose me with monomania and yet you're not an Armchair Psychologist yourself? Okay.

The more likely scenaro is that no matter whether one is gay or straight or somewhere in between, the idea of GG's nasty cock in one's mouth is repulsive,

I'd buy that if the tone of the audience hadn't changed so decidedly. And yeah, the biddies comment was shitty of me.

But get back to the music, maaaaaaan (never mind that the music matters less here than it does with Milli Vanilli).

I had a chance to see him in Chicago. The club was called Exit or The Exit. I even want to say I remember the day - Jan. 5 (forget the year). Sadly, I didn't get to go because I couldn't find anyone to drive me into the city from the burbs in inclement weather (and to go see GG Allin).

But I did take a leak in a bathroom in which Allin reportedly asked a girl to piss in a cup so he could drink it.

I've seen a little on tee vee...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LvZd_9aMU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-hR9G1ZO6Q

Whatever happened to Jane Whitney????

"I might rape the guys..."

saw him at the cat club ca. '87 -- gerard cosloy and j mascis in the band. g.g. ate a lot of ex-lax before the show, hurled poop into the audience. even though i was in the back in a ridiculous jean jacket, i later discovered a splotch of brown stuff on the back of the jacket.

shoulda saved it -- i'm sure gg's poop would fetch a lot on ebay nowadays.

ohh, and the show was okay.

gerard cosloy and j mascis in the band.

wha????

I used to have a copy of maximum r&r or somesuch magazine with an interview with mascis where he recounts playing for Allin's band.

How Many ILM Posters Ever Saw GG Allin Dead?

Person in talk show audience: GG, you are no good!

GG: I am the greatest! You suck!

x50

Roll credits.

Thurston Moore was in that Cat Club lineup, too. I was too scared to go.

still waiting for instructions on spotting phil freeman

The more likely scenaro is that no matter whether one is gay or straight or somewhere in between, the idea of GG's nasty cock in one's mouth is repulsive

I can't believe I actually have to explain this, but the humor in that scene comes from the fact that the narrator is casually mentioning G.G. having a devoted fanbase, which (as David R. illustrated quite humorously), one might usually take to mean obsessive collectors, or even Beatlemania-style screamers, but in fact is illustrated with a matter-of-fact snapshot of a smiling fan giving a thumbs up while blowing this filthy, gnarly scumbag, who is passed out. One assumes sexuality has nothing at all to do with this scenario (I actually don't recall any point in the film where G.G.'s sexuality is explored at all, but it's been ages since I saw it) - it's just another moment of crusty shock; the gutter punk version of frat house pictures of guys drawing on their passed out friends' faces, maybe.

I have no problem at all with guys blowing each other - I'm all for it.
The scene is OBVIOUSLY played for laughs through the contrast between the narration and the visual. Maybe you could argue against the director's intentions, but not with fucking ME for thinking that it's hilarious.

Actually, you DO have to explain. Or rather, ONE has to explain. This portion of the thread started because Stephen called that scene "ridiculous." (And actually, what exactly was ridiculous is unclear. Was it the scene or the comment about the scene?) That's it - just "ridiculous" which can mean MANY things.

Yes, of course, I get the humor of the scene (and David R.'s illustration). I think it's funny too. So more power to ya for being all for guys blowing each other and thinking that the scene is hilarious. I applaud both realities. Seriously.

But yet again (gee Phil, guess my monomania was justified after all), in a sold out auditorium of people watching that scene, not a single person laughed even though they had been laughing at everything else up until that point. The scene is indeed obviously played for laughs. And yet...

So one might assume "sexuality has nothing at all to do with this scenario" (not me, though). But it sure had everything to do with that particular response. And ALL I was trying to do was figure out if that "ridiculous" comment was a species of same.

I saw GG in Detroit and I fled to the back of the room just like everyone else when the poo started to fly.

I think I escaped poo-free, but who knows? Geeg also tossed a bunch of hardware around, which was quite a bit more frightening.

The funniest part about the show was that some guy with a fro came out before GG and sang 2 or 3 punkish songs to many boos before he fessed up and taunted the audience with "do you REALLY want GG ALLIN???"

This portion of the thread started because Stephen called that scene "ridiculous." (And actually, what exactly was ridiculous is unclear. Was it the scene or the comment about the scene?) That's it - just "ridiculous" which can mean MANY things.

I can't believe I'm having to clarify this, either... but by "ridiculous" i obviously meant "ridiculously funny" and Savannah Smiles summed up the inherent humor perfectly a few posts up.

Does that help, Kevin?

I read about GG on wikipedia today and I'm rather highly ashamed I know more trivia about him than I do about, well, any other random fucking person ever born, as in "I know about 0 facts about some random person from oklahoma" vs "I know a couple of things about GG Allin" = is there a bullet in that gun can I put it in my mouth

As bad as I feel about reading his wikipedia page though I can still feel superior to you sad, sad imbeciles with nothing better to do than watch a fucking documentary about this dude

Having now watched the documentary on PTV and (browsed) the YouTube clips linked above, I was wondering if anyone could clarify: Did GG ever actually rape anyone onstage, as he claims in the Springer clip? I find this very hard to believe, as it seems violent intervention would have been inevitable before he would have gotten even close to penetration. I would assume he's just full of bluster about the rape thing, but the clips from the doc of him randomly assaulting both men and women have me curious.

Yes, thanx, Stephen. Kisses.

I can still feel superior to you sad, sad imbeciles

-- GG Allin, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:20 (41 minutes ago)

were people at all into this guys music or was it all just the spectacle

i think his music is pretty tuneful but i think he stole all his melodies from hank williams and so on

i remember reading abt how he claimed he was going to kill himself on stage and thinking how awful

Early Geeg sounds like a bad version of the Knack. Later Geeg, far less catchy.

recently a friend accused me of being really into gg allin in high school and i was like i know like two facts abt the guy and ive never heard his music - then i was accused of concealing my embarrassing gg allin fandom

fact

was it all just the spectacle

^

I can still feel superior to you sad, sad imbeciles with nothing better to do than watch a fucking documentary about this dude

what a weird thing to say

were people at all into this guys music or was it all just the spectacle

choice b. made great copy for the village voice. and after all the threats about offing himself onstage, he OD'd on dope. what a pussy.

i used to read about this guys antics and think 'why would anybody subject themselves to this?'

but maybe i'm a philistine. or a pussy.

Bite It You Scum is a fucking banger.

'Drink fight and fuck' has always been our Geeg preference.

More unsettling than 'Hated' is the Lisa Suckdog denial clips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQysD6MNseU&feature=related

One very good actor or one seriously fucked up bloke

There's a part 2 blockbuster to add to the above

^^^^ sorry forgot to mention - this was at a Geeg poetry night.

After his readings, he would entertain guests with impressions and cookery demos if he fancied it. Geeg could cook a mean burger

So Kevin, how is it that you were able to read all those "blue hair old biddy"-like people's minds and discern the motivations for their (non-)reactions? In addition to being the most enlightened person in the room, are you also psychic?

i chickened out of going to see him at the khyber once. but then i wasn't really a fan or anything. and i just didn't feel like leaving the apartment.

my pal malcom was friends with gg and he supposedly has tons of homemade footage of gg in the woods and and all manner of cock on cock action, but i never saw any of it. can't say i'm disappointed.

the dude who did seriously scare me back then was malcom's friend brian - who was also friends with gg i think - in that "scary junkie who looks like he could stab your eyes out at any minute" kinda way. he was in starvation army. he's dead too. i don't really miss these people. i only really miss the sad, gentle junkies i knew who died. they existed too.

Phillips's Frat House is on Google Video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7261092316031625877

According to Wikipedia it was nothing so exciting as HBO "burying" it because Phillips crossed ethical lines. It was just that hazing scenes were staged so they didn't show it.

http://i28.tinypic.com/2e3bxae.jpg

were people at all into this guys music or was it all just the spectacle
choice b. made great copy for the village voice. and after all the threats about offing himself onstage, he OD'd on dope. what a pussy.
i used to read about this guys antics and think 'why would anybody subject themselves to this?'

yeah, that was pretty much my attitude at the time, too -- even wrote a review of g.g.'s live r.o.i.r. cassette to that effect. but then, i was never much a fan of karen finley performance art schtick or wesley willis indie-rock insanity fetishes either.

in retrospect, though, his music doesn't seem like it was completely horrible. i've known a few people who are even bigger fans of, say, the 4 skins or david allen coe or antiseen or rose tattoo or count bishops than i am, and they liked g.g., too; i can sort of get that -- his music sounded kinda like a way more half-assed version of that stuff. what i never got was the people who said they liked him but didn't seem to have any use at all for rose tattoo/4 skins/bishops/coe/antiseen/etc. that made no sense; they sure weren't going to see him for his songs.

Some comments on that YouTube page:

Esplender (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam
WHERE IS ALL THE POO!?

touchfinder73 (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam
I love all GG Allin, but this stuff is his best.. cherry ass GG
Allin.. This rocks and always will... Unfortunately everyone just
knows him as the naked pooper... thats what happens to someone after
playing for 20 years.. at least he kept it different..

terrorjism (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam
this makes gg look like such a cunt

wagner6 (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam
Man GG was still attractive in this.

frankcotton (9 months ago) 0 Reply | Spam
ha ha! This is back before GG got REALLY crazy.

MNHJUZ (9 months ago) 0 Reply | Spam
Is it an axiom that these so-called punk-rockers and anarchists
have to be stupid and stinking. They are;they are stinking,dumb,ignorant
pieces of rotten sperm.

bedrocker7 (8 months ago) -2 Reply | Spam
Hey GG worshippers: after your first child is born, make sure
(especially if they're little girls) they know that they deserve
to be raped and tortured because that's what their daddy's God/Rock
n Roller believed. I want to see how tough you guys are in the ER
while the nurses are readying a rape kit for your daughter. What a
stupid asshole. BTW GG fans, I'm personally going to slap the shit
out of all fast food workers around the country so watch out!

lesleemandoki (8 months ago) +1 Reply | Spam
hahahah this is so awkward... this doesn't sound a bit like the
poo-eating period of his, which he's most famous for

jdebruhl2 (6 months ago) 0 Reply | Spam
Why? Not giving a shit is much easier than caring about you and
others. He didnt give a shit because that was the image he was
trying to portray. Ive admired great writters. Inventors. Founding
fathers like Ben Franklin. Mark Twain. If you admire someone like
GG. You really come across as a insecure imbecile. Please...go read
a book.

heat4yoass (4 months ago) -2 Reply | Spam
LOL This is GG Allin?! I thought he was against corporate shit? Or
looking like the way MTV wants you to look or whatever. What a
fucking piece of shit hypocrite mother fucker.

most touching thing in the movie:

if you put merle & gg's moustaches together you get a full moustache. it's like the equivalent of a BFF 1/2 heart locket

I saw him in Chicago at Club Exit on Wells St. w/Squirrelbait and Volcano Suns. It must have been 1986. He didn't have a band with him, he just "sang" along with some taped music as accompaniment. He was first up in the line-up and was pretty bad. He shoved his mike up his butt.

That's probably the show I couldn't get to.

I did. Scary intense old school East Village anarcho-angry-junkie crowd. He punched some girl and she stood there with a smile on her face after he did it. I split.

Because you were obviously paralyzed with puritanical fear from the raw homosexuality in the air? (J/K Kevin ;)

Watched "Frat House." It was pretty lame. The Al Goldstein bio doc he produced was pretty great, though.

I missed the GG/Squirrel Bait/Volcano Suns show too, but I remember seeing the flyers lying by the front door at Wax Trax. Saw him perform a few years later in a small room upstairs at Medusa's. He had pissed on himself so much that his attempts to light his pubic hair on fire were doomed to failure.

Also, not a GG concert, but I think it counts: saw him sitting in the audience in the balcony at Cabaret Metro as part of a club full of people who paid to watch a bunch of classic rock and punk video footage, hosted by the Psychotronic guy. There was some Stooges footage (as I recall it was a segue from footage of Chuck Berry doing the song that "1970" copped a verse from), and as soon as Iggy hit the screen GG leaped out of his chair, screaming "Yeah!" in a paroxysm of joy and idol worship. In a lot of ways that was better than seeing GG perform.