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it is pretty insane -- $90 for a four LP set! for some reason i thought this bluenote release was slightly cheaper than usual. what kind of nut buys these?
http://www.amazon.com/Bluenote-Caf-4LP-Neil-Young/dp/B016ACSYW2/ref=sr_1_1_twi_lp__3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1447774265&sr=1-1&keywords=neil+young+bluenote+cafe

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

Maybe because the pressing plant is in Germany, amazon.de has it for way cheaper (less than $50 shipped to the US). Still a lot of bread, but $50 for 4LPs sounds not-completely-unreasonable.
http://www.amazon.de/Bluenote-Caf%C3%A9-Vinyl-Young-Neil/dp/B016ACSYW2/ref=sr_1_2_twi_lp__1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1447774594&sr=1-2&keywords=neil+young+bluenote+cafe

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

yeah that is still too rich for my blood, but not insane.
i was just listening to that fillmore east performance series and thinking it would be cool to have on LP ... guess that one (just one LP) is only slightly crazy in terms of price -- $30 on discogs anyway. http://www.discogs.com/sell/release/3765182?ev=rb

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link

There's a copy for $15.95
http://www.discogs.com/Neil-Young-Crazy-Horse-Live-At-The-Fillmore-East/release/5789203

mizzell, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

so there is! didn't see that. i would buy neil's records on vinyl if they cost $16 for sure.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

of course now, i'm flipping through discogs, thinking about buying this
http://cdn.discogs.com/FG_BrD7EzpP-ZONI1SiglPmnt4o=/fit-in/600x524/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-718255-1151502309.jpeg.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

you don't need that!!!!

a (waterface), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

but i kind of want it!!!!

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

me too!!!!

a (waterface), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link

ohhh man I remember that. everybody needs that!

sleeve, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link

kinda want that Fillmore East thing.

a (waterface), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link

Weird, didn't notice the "Southern Pacific" promo is in mono!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link

lots of great stuff on bluenote cafe, but it is really long. most of disc one i could do without, but twilight rips.
i have no problem buying these new CDs. they look great and sound great. i'm always amazed at the amount of quality music he has produced for so long.

mizzell, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link

fillmore east is so good.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

it slays

a (waterface), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

best "Cowgirl" ever imo

sleeve, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link

Fillmore East was the last Neil product I bought, it's great

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link

definitely

i still listen to everybody knows this is nowhere but usually when i want to hear those songs i put on fillmore east

marcos, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link

fillmore east is the illest

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

i always love crazy horse but they were just a better band with whitten, who was way more neil's equal. post whitten crazy horse has done a ton of great music and neil knew how to harnass their sorta caveman energy but whitten was a real player and i think they could have done even better had he lived (if he could have stayed with neil or would have eventually gone on his own)

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link

yeah, if anything i think whitten might've been getting down to neil's level in terms of musicianship instead of the other way around. he's definitely a super tasteful player.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link

Just ordered Bluenote Cafe 2-CD on Amazon US: 12 bucks and change, also standard shipping, but I'll be here when it gets here, if the creek don't rise (and maybe even so).

dow, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link

the double cd is cheaper than mp3s! amazon is weird.

mizzell, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

weirdness. then again, i know a lot of people these days who don't even own CD players.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link

yeah i guess that's the market these days, but i would think maybe people buying neil young stuff would be more likely to buy physical media.

mizzell, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

so here's the "performance series" so far
Volume 00: Sugar Mountain - Live At Canterbury House 1968
Volume 01: Live At The Riverboat 1969
Volume 02: Live At The Fillmore East 1970
Volume 02.5: Live At The Cellar Door 1970
Volume 03: Live At Massey Hall 1971
Volume 09: A Treasure
Volume 11: Bluenote Cafe
Volume 12: Dreamin' Man Live '92

here's what could be filled in/added? just my conjectures... i have no inside info

Volume 00: Sugar Mountain - Live At Canterbury House 1968
Volume 01: Live At The Riverboat 1969
Volume 02: Live At The Fillmore East 1970
Volume 02.5: Live At The Cellar Door 1970
Volume 03: Live At Massey Hall 1971
Volume 04: Time Fades Away Tour
Volume 05: Tonight's The Night Tour (Rainbow show has been mentioned)
Volume 06: Crazy Horse 76
Volume 07: Ducks 77
Volume 08: Boarding House 78
Volume 09: A Treasure
Volume 10: Rusted Out Garage Tour w/ Crazy Horse
Volume 11: Bluenote Cafe
Volume 12: Dreamin' Man Live '92
Volume 13: Booker T & MGs Tour
Volume 14: Mirror Ball Tour

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

of course these predictions don't allow for sneaky numbering like the 00 on Sugar Mountain and 2.5 on Cellar Door

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

it is SO neil to be 8 releases into a series and already have a Volume 00 and a Volume 2.5!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

All this Whitten slash Young talk sent me cruising---full album?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cF5JADEAM

dow, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

That's the one.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

looks like it. the best! (though I do wish they had just gone ahead and included another disc of neil's opening acoustic set for these shows)

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

Miles' set that same night is equally amazing (released in 2001 as It's About That Time).

Bet it must've been somewhat life-changing to be in the audience for that show.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

feel like the review printed in neil's disc mentions that people were not that into miles ...
and as if on cue, here's my ranking of the performance series' so far: http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/960-listening-to-neil-youngs-live-archives/

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

Looks about right, thanks. I do prefer band Neil to solo Neil---when it comes to whole albums, that is.

dow, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

A solo *side* is always welcome, though.

dow, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

nicely timed! :)

and a good reminder that i really need to check out A Treasure. mid-80s Neil is a total blindspot for me.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

feel like the review printed in neil's disc mentions that people were not that into miles ...

The condescending liner notes of the Miles set mention "bewildered applause" -- I have no idea what that's supposed to sound like, but after Miles finishes, people are yelling "Bravo!" and "More!" so apparently "bewildered" in this case means "enthusiastic."

Michael Cuscuna's liner notes in the Miles Fillmore East Bootleg Series actually single out those other notes for criticism, quoting attendees who said Neil's audience dug Miles and vice-versa.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

hey tyler - there's pro video of that crazy ill-fated Euro Trans tour, could that be possible?

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

A Treasure wins my Truth in Advertising Award, and yeah, goes w Bluebird re live music redeeming eras of disappointing studio releases: in this case, we get International Harvesters, the band (plus tour reinforcement, esp. vocal) known mainly via the fumbledOld Ways, and forbidden to try again, when Geffen sued Neil for not sounding enough like himself (compare w Zaentz suing solo comeback Fogerty for sounding too much like himself/recordings Z. owned rights to). Neil was no longer rockin' in the free world/enough like Tom Petty, that's prob what was really desired.
Anyway, even though this is cobbled from here and there, even YouTube, Neil said, it works seamlessly and dynamically (and sonically; is any of it really from YouTube?)

dow, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

xp
yeah, it's possible! i'm not sure if the audio would be super revelatory though -- the videos are the craziest things, with neil and nils lofgren dancing around with their vocoders.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osTWE6Pg5p4

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

I saw a VHS copy of that years ago, Nils' dancing is lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

i think it's even on DVD?

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

Yup!

http://www.amazon.com/Neil-Young-In-Berlin/dp/B000059LGH

And the pricing is consistent with Neil's other releases.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

heh heh. all part of the master plan -- after kids looking for neil young on spotify dig into TRANS, they'll need more! Then they have to cough up the bucks for the DVD.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

The whole thing can be watched here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqHcb7M5ZN8

The After Berlin song over the credits is pretty good. (And only available on this dvd!?)

satans favourite son, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

some of that comp has been rendered redundant by the bluenote cafe release ... but still, that 20-minute crime in the city!

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link

I've seen other Trans band shows here and there online, though not recently.

dow, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

Other "Performance" things to consider:

Catalyst Crazy Horse shows ('84-5)
Princeton Landing or whatever it was Crazy Horse shows ('96) unless that was what Year of The Horse came from

Jesus Krist of Novoselic (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link


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