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SDFK->mutant standard->child of rage series of tracks is good, other parts are hard to stomach.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

so who or what does this new one sound like?

gabba cadaver (NickB), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

it sounds like a shmup

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

https://youtu.be/td-e4i2BL_Q

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

'sticky drama' video rules

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

that was genuinely an xpost, lol

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

the tinymixtapes review is heavy

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/music-review/oneohtrix-point-never-garden-delete

The joy of OPN has offered a vision of avant music away from the concept that one must transgress a symbolic hierarchy, or even legislate new ones. Rather, he has explored dealing with the immanent processes of creation and culture keenly. Far from bold, OPN hasn’t pretended to heal old forms. He traces the wounds that exist within the decaying structures of authentic experimentation corroding along the continuum of contemporary music. And here, with Garden of Delete, he sets out to implode his art in a brilliant display of cultural denial, a reflexive operation that claims a “total loss” of cultural net-worth by damaging itself with the same semiotic structures that it indicts: the pomp of a cryptic press strategy, the “rock record” rider that proclaims it as a new installment in his analects, the moment when the signature of culture meets, cancels out, or enhances the signature of the artist.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

christ

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

anyway this is a real grower, i think it's his best yet

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

also i maintain that djp would love this record, djp 2 thread

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

as w/ everything from Replica onward, i suspect this will be a grower. off the bat i think what he's doing here is ~interesting~ but not so much enjoyable to listen to.

― circa1916, Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:07 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree, but it's a grower, but i dont dig it nearly as much as r plus seven or replica, which were very interesting and fun to listen to

flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

Saw him play this record live on Sunday, seems inspired somehow by touring with NIN.

Interesting seeing him fold together the audio palettes and production moves of R Plus Seven and Replica into post-dubstep maximalism (with vocals!). The reference points seem to span from early videogame RPGs and mid-90s Playstation soundtracks, to cyber-goth and horror/splatter special effects. Visuals of Fangoria magazine left an impression at the show.

That said, I certainly don't think it's his best, at least not my favorite, but I've been enjoying it. I actually don't find that punishing to listen to at all!

MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 November 2015 06:17 (eight years ago) link

i love this bonkers anime metal

flopson, Sunday, 15 November 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link

i like how he brought the ford & lopatin/games electro into this album but doesn't let it dominate the vibe, using the electro jams as release from the blast beat sections. want him to make a deep house album next. i don't know if this is his worst, r plus sev was a bit plodding at times (i love it dgmw) but this may be the best metal album ever? never heard anything that sounds like this

flopson, Sunday, 15 November 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

try liturgy's last album

ANU (sisilafami), Sunday, 15 November 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link

this is great

it's far from the greatest metal album of all time though

i mean, that'd be miley cyrus and her dead petz obv

Probably not the best entry point for this guy but I'm listening to the newest. I like it, not sure how much yet. It's pretty refreshing to listen to an album where you have no idea what's going to happen next.

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 15 November 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link

But it's not really right call it metal based on like half a second in I Bite Through It

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 15 November 2015 20:59 (eight years ago) link

This new album is fantastic. Definitely some higher energy moments here, but it doesn't seem like a huge departure from his previous work, more like a logical next step.

I don't really get a metal vibe either.

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link

The NIN comparison makes muuuuuch more sense than any metal comparison. There's a lot of Reznor's aesthetic here, just kind of modernised and webified and hyperrealised

Also, here's this album's 2-hour lo-fi cousin that adventurous listeners might like. File under 'everything' https://liluglymane.bandcamp.com/album/third-side-of-tape

I might listen to that one day. I keep looking at the length and think "ugh, maybe later"

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link

I swear, there's more to the comparison than their juxtaposition on RYM's 2015 rankings lol

Also, I've been listening to it this evening - on side 3A by now - trust me, just when you feel you're flagging there's another amazing bit and you shrug and you're like 'shit ok fine, this stays'

I miss the opm circa 'replica ' days .
This Is his worst.
But generally i feel offended when something sounds, even just a little bit, like NIN.

Nourry, Sunday, 15 November 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link

i greatly appreciate how each record sounds like a complete break from the past while remaining unmistakably 0PN.
but i hope he makes a complete break from this sound... it still only sounds 'interesting' to me, not moving like replica or r plus seven

flappy bird, Sunday, 15 November 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

I can agree w/ that. Replica was one of those rare records that was conceptually interesting and somewhat difficult but was nonetheless capable of connecting on a strange emotional level. Kinda magic. Don't think he's quite recaptured that balance before or after with the same success.

But these records seem to take some time to get a handle on. R+7 didn't really open up to me until a few months ago.

circa1916, Monday, 16 November 2015 00:25 (eight years ago) link

on the fence on this one still. agree with flappy bird - it's still cool and (the dreaded) "interesting" but not quite feeling it as a whole work yet. but maybe that'll come.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 16 November 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link

i wish i could find a way to convince yall to like this

yes it's (the dreaded) "interesting", but so is most of his stuff, particularly r plus

the album... has really good riffs

flopson, Monday, 16 November 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link

i'm listening to it again right now, still doesn't grab me until the 2nd half

the late great, Monday, 16 November 2015 01:45 (eight years ago) link

ah cmon ezra is so good

flopson, Monday, 16 November 2015 01:51 (eight years ago) link

this is his best since returnal. r+7 had fleeting moments of beauty but was kind of bloodless overall.

this album is full of moments like 5 minutes into "mutant standard," which sounds like blasting off in a space shuttle while your life flashes before your eyes.

J. Sam, Monday, 16 November 2015 02:26 (eight years ago) link

"ezra" has some k. emerson moments in the best possible way

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 16 November 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

I find Garden exciting from start to finish and am a little surprised at all the mixed feelings here.

Re: What else sounds like this, you'd never confuse the two but there's a kinship between Delete and Prurient's Frozen Niagara Falls. Like they're both working with the same range of materials, but Prurient stretches them out across the continuum from beautiful to ugly, while Oneohtrix is more interested in the continuum between sublime and ridiculous. Two of my favorite albums this year, at any rate...

fka styx (paul santa cruz), Monday, 16 November 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link

it's pretty singular, yeah. broad sound palette, tidy song structures, and 'lush' bits. thank god for AE_LIVE, though.. people digging on this OPN might be into the recently released, 'official' autechre live recordings. Garden of Delete feels sort of slight, where the AE stuff is just packed with rad sounds. maybe they're not comparable, but there are some similar sounds going on.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 01:32 (eight years ago) link

listened to this in the car, dope shit

Rich Homie Quan Poor Homie Quan (m bison), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 03:39 (eight years ago) link

I really loved this on first listen, some of the techniques and treatment of sounds are similar to previous records but the song structures + trashy stadium EDM sound palette make for a very very different experience.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:10 (eight years ago) link

Helps that I read Sherburne's review before listening for the first time and it sounded almost exactly as the article suggested it would.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:12 (eight years ago) link

I love I Bite Through It but I am just getting into it and then it ends. Years of listening to techno has made me need long tracks.

The rest is still digesting for me.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:17 (eight years ago) link

What a distressing sound this is, it sounds like strip lighting, I've fought so long and hard to be away from strip lighting and here it is again

saer, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link

:D

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link

I suspect he may turn out to be a better producer/collaborator than a lead artist - without a vocalist to give the whole thing shape I don't find his music particularly sonically or compositionally interesting. What all the artists Sherburne lists have in common (and I'd stick the Ford + Lopatin and James Ferraro albums in there as well) is this sense that someone's turned on all the lights really brightly. I'm used to electronic music feeling either noctural or sunny, there's a really stark neon glare to all of these artists, with varying degrees of success.

― Matt DC, Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:54 PM (1 year ago)

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link

I wrote that about Arca but I think the striplighting thing is very deliberate with a lot of these producers.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

classic post

flopson, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link

ok i've been playing this this morning and i'm warming up to it. once the chaos shock wears off, i'm understanding the "rock record"/it has riffs!/opn-album-you-can-thrash-to descriptors and the emotional center is starting to reveal itself. ordered the LP.

circa1916, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link

2nd half is good. first half annoys teh fuck out of me

Ludo, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link

conceptually interesting and somewhat difficult but was nonetheless capable of connecting on a strange emotional level. Kinda magic.

thank you, people on my fb talking about him like he's just some kinda shock jock and it makes me feel like i'm in crazytown

0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

increasingly convinced of this record's brilliance. the naysaying only makes it stronger

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

absolutely <3 this album

I do kinda wish it got even more metal but then... I guess it would just be a venetian snares album or something?

speaking of which, is there something like the chaotic industrial parts of "sticky drama" that lasts more than 30secs and is just as cool?

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 05:11 (eight years ago) link


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