oneohtrix point never

i guess it's a "grower", though?

i was really into R plus 7 so i was like hey cool i like this dude now, but then i heard this aaaaand guess not

i'm not sure what to make of this feeling but to me this sounds very "modern IDM" to me, whereas the older albums, "returnal" and "replica" in particular, sounded unmoored from time

"rifts" and "r+7" i guess sound very 70s/80s to me which is maybe more interesting to me than sounding very 2015

perhaps predictably i like the non-metal-referencing parts (like "child of rage") more than the rest

what did you think of the pre "r plus 7" material karl?

i don't mean to say that i didn't enjoy this, i'm just not as into it as the older stuff

at the time they came out i just wasn't in the mood for noise and formless droning stuff so i never gave him enough of a chance, i've been meaning to go back to his older stuff since i like R plus 7. i'd probably start with rifts as i'm guessing that's the closest to R plus 7

i would start with rifts but to my ears it sounds less like r plus 7 and more like mid-period tangerine dream or klaus schulze

it's all slow synth arpeggios

i'll prob dig it then

as w/ everything from Replica onward, i suspect this will be a grower. off the bat i think what he's doing here is ~interesting~ but not so much enjoyable to listen to.

SDFK->mutant standard->child of rage series of tracks is good, other parts are hard to stomach.

so who or what does this new one sound like?

it sounds like a shmup

https://youtu.be/td-e4i2BL_Q

'sticky drama' video rules

that was genuinely an xpost, lol

the tinymixtapes review is heavy

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/music-review/oneohtrix-point-never-garden-delete

The joy of OPN has offered a vision of avant music away from the concept that one must transgress a symbolic hierarchy, or even legislate new ones. Rather, he has explored dealing with the immanent processes of creation and culture keenly. Far from bold, OPN hasn’t pretended to heal old forms. He traces the wounds that exist within the decaying structures of authentic experimentation corroding along the continuum of contemporary music. And here, with Garden of Delete, he sets out to implode his art in a brilliant display of cultural denial, a reflexive operation that claims a “total loss” of cultural net-worth by damaging itself with the same semiotic structures that it indicts: the pomp of a cryptic press strategy, the “rock record” rider that proclaims it as a new installment in his analects, the moment when the signature of culture meets, cancels out, or enhances the signature of the artist.

christ

anyway this is a real grower, i think it's his best yet

also i maintain that djp would love this record, djp 2 thread

as w/ everything from Replica onward, i suspect this will be a grower. off the bat i think what he's doing here is ~interesting~ but not so much enjoyable to listen to.

― circa1916, Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:07 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree, but it's a grower, but i dont dig it nearly as much as r plus seven or replica, which were very interesting and fun to listen to

Saw him play this record live on Sunday, seems inspired somehow by touring with NIN.

Interesting seeing him fold together the audio palettes and production moves of R Plus Seven and Replica into post-dubstep maximalism (with vocals!). The reference points seem to span from early videogame RPGs and mid-90s Playstation soundtracks, to cyber-goth and horror/splatter special effects. Visuals of Fangoria magazine left an impression at the show.

That said, I certainly don't think it's his best, at least not my favorite, but I've been enjoying it. I actually don't find that punishing to listen to at all!

i love this bonkers anime metal

i like how he brought the ford & lopatin/games electro into this album but doesn't let it dominate the vibe, using the electro jams as release from the blast beat sections. want him to make a deep house album next. i don't know if this is his worst, r plus sev was a bit plodding at times (i love it dgmw) but this may be the best metal album ever? never heard anything that sounds like this

try liturgy's last album

this is great

it's far from the greatest metal album of all time though

i mean, that'd be miley cyrus and her dead petz obv

Probably not the best entry point for this guy but I'm listening to the newest. I like it, not sure how much yet. It's pretty refreshing to listen to an album where you have no idea what's going to happen next.

But it's not really right call it metal based on like half a second in I Bite Through It

This new album is fantastic. Definitely some higher energy moments here, but it doesn't seem like a huge departure from his previous work, more like a logical next step.

I don't really get a metal vibe either.

The NIN comparison makes muuuuuch more sense than any metal comparison. There's a lot of Reznor's aesthetic here, just kind of modernised and webified and hyperrealised

Also, here's this album's 2-hour lo-fi cousin that adventurous listeners might like. File under 'everything' https://liluglymane.bandcamp.com/album/third-side-of-tape

I might listen to that one day. I keep looking at the length and think "ugh, maybe later"

I swear, there's more to the comparison than their juxtaposition on RYM's 2015 rankings lol

Also, I've been listening to it this evening - on side 3A by now - trust me, just when you feel you're flagging there's another amazing bit and you shrug and you're like 'shit ok fine, this stays'

I miss the opm circa 'replica ' days .
This Is his worst.
But generally i feel offended when something sounds, even just a little bit, like NIN.

i greatly appreciate how each record sounds like a complete break from the past while remaining unmistakably 0PN.
but i hope he makes a complete break from this sound... it still only sounds 'interesting' to me, not moving like replica or r plus seven

I can agree w/ that. Replica was one of those rare records that was conceptually interesting and somewhat difficult but was nonetheless capable of connecting on a strange emotional level. Kinda magic. Don't think he's quite recaptured that balance before or after with the same success.

But these records seem to take some time to get a handle on. R+7 didn't really open up to me until a few months ago.

on the fence on this one still. agree with flappy bird - it's still cool and (the dreaded) "interesting" but not quite feeling it as a whole work yet. but maybe that'll come.

i wish i could find a way to convince yall to like this

yes it's (the dreaded) "interesting", but so is most of his stuff, particularly r plus

the album... has really good riffs

i'm listening to it again right now, still doesn't grab me until the 2nd half

ah cmon ezra is so good

this is his best since returnal. r+7 had fleeting moments of beauty but was kind of bloodless overall.

this album is full of moments like 5 minutes into "mutant standard," which sounds like blasting off in a space shuttle while your life flashes before your eyes.

"ezra" has some k. emerson moments in the best possible way

I find Garden exciting from start to finish and am a little surprised at all the mixed feelings here.

Re: What else sounds like this, you'd never confuse the two but there's a kinship between Delete and Prurient's Frozen Niagara Falls. Like they're both working with the same range of materials, but Prurient stretches them out across the continuum from beautiful to ugly, while Oneohtrix is more interested in the continuum between sublime and ridiculous. Two of my favorite albums this year, at any rate...

it's pretty singular, yeah. broad sound palette, tidy song structures, and 'lush' bits. thank god for AE_LIVE, though.. people digging on this OPN might be into the recently released, 'official' autechre live recordings. Garden of Delete feels sort of slight, where the AE stuff is just packed with rad sounds. maybe they're not comparable, but there are some similar sounds going on.

listened to this in the car, dope shit

I really loved this on first listen, some of the techniques and treatment of sounds are similar to previous records but the song structures + trashy stadium EDM sound palette make for a very very different experience.

Helps that I read Sherburne's review before listening for the first time and it sounded almost exactly as the article suggested it would.

I love I Bite Through It but I am just getting into it and then it ends. Years of listening to techno has made me need long tracks.

The rest is still digesting for me.

What a distressing sound this is, it sounds like strip lighting, I've fought so long and hard to be away from strip lighting and here it is again

:D