it is their singular achievement and their legacy. I enjoy it from time to time
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 5 November 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link
Morning Glory was slated when it came out.
this isn't true iirc. nor is it true that be here now was praised.
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link
nor is it true that be here now was praised.
i seem to recall that the album was given massively positive reviews.the love was immense.mojo/Q were all over BHN.now i wish i had kept my magazine archive.
― mark e, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link
Be Here Now - 9/10 Vox, Aug 1997. Dele Fadele wrote it.
― Master of Treacle, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link
That's exactly right. In the UK music press, Morning Glory was reckoned to be a disappointing follow-up to Definitely Maybe. Everyone felt it was a load of toss-offs and that Champagne Supernova and the title track were the only decent bits. I remember Hello was thought to be a particularly rotten opener, with its Gary Glitter lift. Q, which was arguably the journal of record, gave it a two-/maybe three-star review and then ended up honouring it st their awards after it had gone up like a rocket. Noel came and accepted the Best Album award "on behalf of a crap album with crap lyrics" or words v much to that effect.No-one wanted to be similarly wrong-footed by By Here Now, and everyone knew it would be instantly massive, so it was near enough five-star reviews across the board, almost to a suspicious extent, as if editors were all making their pitch for ongoing interview access. The critical consensus quickly fell away when everyone heard it, but the first word from the music press was wall-to-wall raves. No-one wanted to prick the bubble. And also, it sounded big, so it could briefly be confused for good, whether it was or not. I don't usually post, but I read the music press avidly in those days, and that is what happened.
― wump, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:43 (eight years ago) link
NME gave whats the story 6/10NME gave Be Here Now 9/10
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link
What's The Story is a 6/10 record all the way.
― everything, Friday, 6 November 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL6aDrzs3Fs
― systems drinking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 November 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link
now I have the phrase "shite bucket challenge" in my head
― pep ponk aliyev (seandalai), Friday, 6 November 2015 00:30 (eight years ago) link
thank you wump.
― mark e, Friday, 6 November 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link
def true that MG was dissed (a proper kicking from Stubbs in MM, NME were sniffy, 3/5 by Dave Cavannagh who said he struggled to get work the year after the review because of it! etc etc) and yeah BHN was worshipped. 5/5 in Q, MOJO etc. there's a brilliant bit about the BHN review hype it in 'The Last Party' that quotes someone (i forget who) in one of the top papers (Independent maybe) that compared it to 'Revolver'.
― piscesx, Friday, 6 November 2015 00:58 (eight years ago) link
First real negative piece post-BHN I remember was a Reaper diss of Morning Glory in Uncut (which just started I think, not sure if the Reaper was Stubbs but it makes sense)
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 6 November 2015 01:07 (eight years ago) link
ha would love to read that.
― piscesx, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link
have to say "Thom Yorke should give us a shout when he's written a song as good as Mony Mony" made me laugh.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/nov/06/noel-gallagher-everybodys-out-to-please-the-guardian
― piscesx, Saturday, 7 November 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/aWILv25.png
― afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 7 November 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link
Guessing Alan Mcgee also says this to his best mate Edward Ball when he expresses any opinions?
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 7 November 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
All that money other people have earned for him and he still can't buy a hat that fits him,
http://nme.assets.ipccdn.co.uk/images/gallery/AlanMcGee03BTOX180511.jpg
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Saturday, 7 November 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/GCCjcbc.jpg?1
im afraid luke wins this one
― afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 7 November 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link
http://noel-gallagher.esquire.co.uk/
“This is my hobby!”
“You mean, music?”
“No! This: doing interviews. I fucking love it. I could do this all day long. It’s sick.”
“Why do you love it so much?”
“Because I get to be a gobshite, and I get to do that thing: to be the last of a dying breed.”
― schwantz, Saturday, 14 November 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link
his appearance on motd2 was next-level grim. saying 'the brodge' over and over again followed with a little beady-eyed smirk, everyone in the studio force-roaring with laughter like he'd just burped gold. like he's the CEO's spoilt child, humour him or else. awful small-minded unfunny man, gives off the vibe that he truly believes he could forge a new career as a stand-up comedian if only he could be bothered. baffling how he's got this reputation as a scathing wit - hasn't said anything truly witty in years and even then that 'man soup fork' line is only 5/10 on the smarts scale
― NI, Wednesday, March 4, 2015 7:23 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
very obviously the most otm post in the weirdly long second phase of this thread
― Amblyomma_americanum_tick.jpg (wins), Sunday, 15 November 2015 10:32 (eight years ago) link
ilmos's repetitive fascination with shit they "don't like" is an occasional head-scratcher but hey
― John Dope Assos (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2015 10:48 (eight years ago) link
I think about 4 threads got bumped because a man said something boring about radiohead. Are they even still going?!
― Amblyomma_americanum_tick.jpg (wins), Sunday, 15 November 2015 10:50 (eight years ago) link
(maybe some of this was on fb)
― Amblyomma_americanum_tick.jpg (wins), Sunday, 15 November 2015 10:51 (eight years ago) link
sorry for posting things
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 November 2015 10:57 (eight years ago) link
nah it's cool actually I like to read it as kinda bringing the thread back full circle to nakchivan's first 5 or so posts, with ilx in the gallagher role
― Amblyomma_americanum_tick.jpg (wins), Sunday, 15 November 2015 11:03 (eight years ago) link
this thread leads two things from a post by fizzles where he sees noel in the supermarket, it isn't entirely arbitrary that it is about him because his public image does fit with that anecdote of velleity and the hell of being famous, as someone entirely incurious, neither stupid nor clever, who is lost between uncomplicated enjoyment of his fame and a more self-reflexive understanding of it
that match of the day two post is good......he obviously doesn't need the money, maybe he was promoting album/band/tour etc, maybe not, the demeanour of the studio golems suggested a lot of excited preparation between his people and their people, 'it would be great to get him on'....yet he looked like he had wandered in off the street
if i remember correctly he had a sort of langorous posture and when he wasn't being invited to provide content, his gaze wandered into dead space, he knew enough about football for it not to seem gratuitous but evidently wasn't interested in it
'match of the day two guest apperarance' a phrase to conjure with anyway
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 15 November 2015 11:48 (eight years ago) link
'a new career as a stand-up comedian if only he could be bothered'......the velleity is the thing, if enough other people could be bothered to make him do it, if he was guaranteed a large enough fee upfront rather than sale proceeds he could probably be conjured into doing a three or four date tour, all it would involve would be convincing him there was no risk to his reputation or profitability and it wouldn't involve any work
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 15 November 2015 12:00 (eight years ago) link
I remember it well (uh, thread inception, not motd appearance); I also remember one time my friend playing me some of writer and activist russell brand's podcast, and there was this bit, apparently a regular feature, where brand would ring up his mate noel and chat to him for like 10 minutes. It was similar to what you describe, he sounded completely disengaged, dull as fuck, like he'd been interrupted doing fuck-all and was waiting to get back to it. It was such a weird momentum-killer, like whatever you think of brand the idea that his force of personality isn't enough to keep a blokey radio show going without having to bring in a stilted conversation with a bored singer is... odd.
ANYWAY I really liked the 1st iteration of this thread although the conceit prob wasn't gonna be infinitely sustainable I do still click on it in the hope that at least someone will post something funny so it's always disappointing to see that it's just become Shit My Dadrock Says, esp given we already have several threads for that
― Amblyomma_americanum_tick.jpg (wins), Sunday, 15 November 2015 12:13 (eight years ago) link
if only you were allowed to post on it yourself
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 November 2015 12:23 (eight years ago) link
more posts probably not the solution tbh
― Amblyomma_americanum_tick.jpg (wins), Sunday, 15 November 2015 12:25 (eight years ago) link
Not really the thread for it, but I periodically see Noel wandering about, in fact to the extent that he's started to recognise me (not in any head-nodding sort of way, but in a sort of glance of suspicious recognition - it must be hell being famous in some ways). Whenever I see him, he's just mooching about, wandering the streets with the comportment of a man who has absolutely nothing to do, never with anyone, never exuding any purpose, looking down side streets with equal uninterest, extensively studying shelves in the supermarket with a sort of desultory indifference, that sort of thing, a portrait of velleity, of volition in its lowest form.
― GamalielRatsey, Saturday, September 4, 2010 11:02 AM
the supermarket part especially, which has no practical purpose because he doesn't need to buy his own food, nor is it an obvious destination for wandering like a latterday walter benjamin
suggests a return to the first memory of radical arbitrariness, the time when the child has to choose between two chocolate bars whose name and colour alone separate them, whose name and colour are arbitrary
then the horror of being recognised, someone who has no autonomous reasons for doing anything confronted by someone whom he expects to do something, but doesn't know whether that is to just glower/snigger/'mate can i...'/
maybe he even apprehends the sense that random people only intrude upon the privacy of famous people in order to provide an anecdote, and the line between it being this or this is itself arbitrary, they will condense it to a clarity of thought and feeling that he must envy
none of them are going to post to twitter that they met noel gallagher the other day, though they weren't sure what they thought about this
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:13 (eight years ago) link
Wistfulness all is wistfulness
― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 November 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link
his appearance on motd2 was next-level grim.
Is this watchable somewhere? Can only find motd*3* and he's okay?
― écorché (S-), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 02:01 (eight years ago) link
athough anti-Brexit, Noel did say: “I like the fact that it sounds like a cereal; a bowl of Brexit!”
― écorché (S-), Monday, 27 June 2016 03:04 (seven years ago) link
50 innit
― mookieproof, Monday, 29 May 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link
Noel stared at the candles on the cake, their flames dancing like ruddy nonces in the early summer breeze. "I'll blow them out in a minute," he thought to himself, "and then eat a slice of cake."
"How many years were 50?" he wondered, watching his kids dancing around the garden. "A lot of years anyway, too bloody many," he said, laughing to himself. As he finished he heard the words echoing, over and over. He found himself stood in a large banquet hall, facing the Queen herself.
"Arise Sir Noel Gallagher," some posh nonce said, and Noel heard the shite sound of trumpets. "Never liked trumpets. Leave it to the American lads. Sir Noel though. I could get used to that. Maybe one of them collars like Shakespeare had. What was it? A riff? A raff?"
"Doesn't matter," he thought, swilling a large tankard of meade and lighting a cigarette. "Doesn't fucking matter."
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 29 May 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link
*bless u*
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 29 May 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
went on liam gallagher's twitter hoping to find some ugly picture of noel and "potato is an old cunt LG x" but instead got this earnest garbage
Happy 50th rkid stay young LG x— Liam Gallagher (@liamgallagher) May 29, 2017
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 May 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link
much preferred this savage kidney-punch from feb 24
NUFF SAID LG x pic.twitter.com/63lzP4yy45— Liam Gallagher (@liamgallagher) February 24, 2017
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 May 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
ppl who sign their tweets
― mh, Monday, 29 May 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
william shatner used to always sign his tweets "MBB" for "my best, bill" but stopped doing so in recent years in his mid/late 80s.
maybe liam will catch on some day
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 May 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
real heads know it's the little kiss at the end that's the major headfuck here
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 May 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
There's been some great threads revived of late but the first section of this one with the actual interior life musings is an absolute trove and should be celebrated forever.
― the article don, Monday, 29 May 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
There's been some great threads revived of late
https://media1.giphy.com/media/A9ItXqic22f72/giphy.gif
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 May 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
Not all LG tweets are written by LG. Probably including many tweets signed LG.
― nashwan, Monday, 29 May 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
Tbf, LG does write some of DT's.
― Mark G, Monday, 29 May 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link
Noel lay in the backyard hammock, reluctantly stirring his mango daiquiri. “Fookin MALEN! Are you taking the piss pet?” His wife shuffled over to him in her flip flops, petulantly removing his glass from the table. Several minutes later she plonked down a lukewarm can of Phuket Lager in front of him. He allowed himself a chuckle. She wasn’t bad our Malen. Nothing in common of course and she’d inadvertently thrown out the birthday stash Bonehead had brought over when he visited on holiday a few months back, but at least she wasn’t like them birds back home. He missed home. The lads. Pints. Singalongs to John Lennon on the jukebox. Not this fruity fookin gap year lookin CUNTville. Did they miss him? Fooksake cut that out Noel, ya right poof, he thought. Probably all listening to fookin YOKO now anyway, pack of wankers.
He switched on the TV, a jingle reminding him of a cracking night at the Hacienda in the summer of ‘88. Had he invented acid house? Possibly. Hard to tell really. Malen padded past in front of the telly and he picked up a handful of leftover canned mushy peas, tossing them in her direction. A dog-eared copy of Uncut magazine careered past his head, landing flayed and dishevelled on the floor like a felled Lancashire pheasant. It had opened to familiar pages, one of him and the lads, the other those poncy tosswanks from Blur. He grabbed the nearest pen to draw a cock on Damon’s face, but it was all facecocked out, so he settled for that Graham one. Aye he was alright, Graham. Shite at guitar but alright. He sat back and admired his handiwork. Nice one, he murmured. Still got it. “Oasis 1, Blah 0” he exclaimed proudly to Malen, who looked up from filing her nails to frown at him bemusedly. Fookin right yeah.
The woman down expat bakery had mistaken him for that poncy cunt Damon when Song 2 had played on the radio a few weeks back. Fuck em, he thought. “FUCK EM!” he bellowed. A hunchbacked old Thai man eyed him curiously from the shopfront across the road. Noel squinted at him, lips parted slightly, head cocked. The old man stared back blankly. “Fuck em, chuck”, Noel sneered softly.
Who was this bellend on the telly? “Ere our kid, have a look at this shitey cu…”
The words trailed off as he realised Liam wasn’t there. How many years had it been now? He briefly contemplated ringing the daft cunt. Then he remembered Liam didn’t answer the phone. Only used that rubbish Twitter. More like Twatter innit. Yeah right, nice one Noel ya mingin knobshite. He were past it, best left on the slag heap. He sat there feeling sorry for himself for a few minutes and then remembered Bonehead had left something else behind. Something not even Malen would find. Just the ticket. Go on my son. Fookin SORTED. A tuk tuk puttered past. In the distance, an elderly woman tended her crop. Noel helped himself to another line, bounced up, donned his favourite black leather jacket and swaggered out into the searing tropical streets. “LET’S AVE YA!”, he jeered, tucking his thumbs into the loops of his board shorts and thrusting out his hips. They can take the lad out of Madchester, he thought, shaking his head and beaming with a cheeky grin. A few locals glanced at him sideways. Bunch of Thai TWATS.
― gass mccoombes (qiqing), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link
Had he invented acid house? Possibly.
A+
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link
https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/05/famed-potato-noel-gallagher-threw-a-cocaine-themed-birthday-party/
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link
This thread is Ronan's crowning achievement, surpassing even society is in the gutter.
― gass mccoombes (qiqing), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link