YOUNG THUG vs FUTURE

these guys have been my two favros for a while p easily voted future, even w tha tour included which i feel like it shd be just makes sense i mean when did monster come out, anyway just something abt futures vision is so hypnotic its all internalized and harmonious i love him

fwiw i voted thug bc i was listening to ss2 and really enjoying it and *just* barely starting to feel a little worn out on the future tapes but after reflecting on it i would prob vote future

still listen to my future mix all the time but its def long since entered sick of this but cant stop territory

Who needs art you can't use for something? I know other people have use for stuff I don't but c'mon you have to have some sort of use for something to give it your time, if only at some abstract level.

i sometimes skip slave master -> colossal stretch but often just as i'm reaching for the button i hear the intro and it reels me back in

its cool how mixtapes r becoming more like albums and u cn have like five albums a year from yr fav dudes

my favorites on DS2 are "Blood On the Money" and "Know the Meaning." I love those extra tracks, although the sequence from "I Serve The Base" through "Where Ya At" is impressive.

those songs are next to each other on the album lol

*"Thought It Was A Drought"

colossal has that jazzy zaytoven vibe and i love it, it is such a refresher to those piano keys

this is overly nitpicky but one moment i always :-/ at on the album is the outro/last few bars on drought when he's like "thought it was a drought thought it thought it was a drought thought we poured our actaviiiis" sounds like he had a few bars to fill but hadn't really thought of what to do idk

i like the adlib abt his struggles w data backup

ds2 is weird like i can kinda understand why its the album but not really

DS2 feels a little more solid and reinforced than the mixtapes to me...like not BETTER or substantially different but it sounds like he told the producers "it's album time."

"I do pretty strongly disagree w the idea that thug and future are the only rappers making music worth hearing right now"

Cool because nobody said that.

"wait I thought everyone listened to other rap music...but now it's ok that no one listens to other rap music bc they're the only ones who matter?"

Nobody said that either.

The point is that Future and Thug are making the most and best rap music right. It's only natural that they would occupy a lot of space in the conversation. They deserve it.

*right now

"This is what I hate about the conversation, it's like you're in camp j Cole or camp
Future and there's no in between..."

Well that's a bigger and realer problem I think but at least if you fall on the Future side of the fence you are going to be stumping for a great/the best artist and you probably listened to some other stuff in his lane before landing at that conclusion. Have many Cole or Kendrick fans even heard of Oddisee?

I don't know man I've listened to as much new rap as probably anyone in this thread and while I can appreciate a lot of it nothing has really connected with me the way Future and Thug do. (Except for the Earl tape, as I mentioned upthread, and which hits at a very different angle). And I know I'm not the only person who listens to lots of rap seriously and shares this feeling. I guess if Music Blog Content Mule was still my job title I'd feel some kind of an obligation to pretend to be more enthusiastic about 21 Savage deep cuts but it's not and I'm glad.

some dude
Posted: November 4, 2015 at 11:04:58 AM
DS2 feels a little more solid and reinforced than the mixtapes to me...like not BETTER or substantially different but it sounds like he told the producers "it's album time."

ya p much how i break it down to an extent

feel like ive said this before but the fact that he used clip art for the cover is the perfect statement on albums in the mixtape era lol

21 savage sucks I'm definitely not talking about well probably anyone in Atlanta. LOL

goddamn these threads are depressing as everybody works through the same script they have a thousand times before. deej comes out of nowhere telling people they're underrating chief keef, lex comes out of nowhere telling people they're underrating angel haze, etc etc.

― some dude, Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:33 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No ones arguing about chief keef tho u dork, although it is funny that baltimore's biggest rapper has a song called of all things "OTM" over supposedly non influential drill artist King Louie's "BON" beat

"out the mud" is supposedly a chicago thing now!? anyway the only thing i ever wrote about young moose was all about how derivative he is of rap from other cities

you literally introduced keef into the discussion apropos of nothing, that's indisputable.

just because you personally guard the reputation of every rapper from chicago doesn't mean i give a shit what people say about whoever from baltimore, how do you still think that after 10 years of trying that shit

Otm is funny bc of ilx not Chicago

I don't personally guard Chicago rappers reputations lol wtf are you even talking about

if you don't realize this is a response to your posts on the hip hop thread about how no one cares about Chicago artists outside Chicago you're being willfully ignorant.

Thraed of Chief Keef's "Bang 3" major label abum due in September

"i don't personally guard chicago rappers reputations, i'm just still mad that 7 months ago you dared to suggest kanye west having a lot of people onstage with him was not an homage to chief keef"

That conversation is about chicagos influence in general which you've continually denied, thought maybe your own hometown artists literally picking up on it jacking for beats might make you reconsider but keep doing you

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i never said chicago didn't move the needle, but of course that's how it sounds to you if i say that maybe rick ross taking off his shirt in a video doesn't have anything to do w/ chief keef

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i never said chicago didn't move the needle, but of course that's how it sounds to you if i say that maybe rick ross taking off his shirt in a video doesn't have anything to do w/ chief keef

― some dude, Wednesday, November 4, 2015 1:44 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...the video that is an explicit callback to the 'i dont like' video ... ok

we can't have this conversation again

anyway on topic i dont think there's anything wrong with people liking young thug & future and listening to them a lot

That could've been option number 3.

I would vote for that.

...the video that is an explicit callback to the 'i dont like' video ... ok

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, November 4, 2015 3:34 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUoHkql-Wsk

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they *literally* do the dance from 'dont like' in the video some dude

ross bit lil reese's 'beef' flow for his song on jay z's album and talked about doing 'the money dance' the next summer how can you *possibly* find this farfetched?

lol ross is even wearing the same belt in those screen caps

This is not a scientific answer to the question, but anecdotally I've heard Thug blaring out of cars in two different cities today, vs zero for Future.

interesting. i hear a lot of Future in the wild but Thug's mainstream presence has been a little muted this year, all he's had on the radio is the 3rd verse on a Rae Sremmurd single, vs. last year when there were 3-4 pretty huge songs where Young Thug was the only performer or did the hook and first verse.

i'm not suggest Rick Ross has never heard or been influenced by Chicago rap, i'm just suggesting that searching for vague signs of influence in a video shot outside in New Orleans projects, full of the tropes of a million NOLA rap videos, is funny.

and im suggesting there was no 'searching' involved, it was immediately obvious that this was what he was doing & the new orleans thing—almost a decade after the last time someone shot a noteworthy video in NO projects—was a very obvious attempt to avoid being seen as biting

i still hear future out of cars all the time of course, young thug i've started to hear more of lately

so rick ross shot his video in new orleans just to throw people off the scent of his true influence which is obviously chicago?

I'm not inside his head? But it doesn't seem remotely farfetched, vs shirtless crew videos where everyone does the shawty lo dance weren't exactly common pre idl. I mean he was on keef's record it was the biggest story this year I don't get why this seems like such a long shot to either of you other than trolling

It's also just what big artists do to create popular records, flip underground ideas on a main stage, isn't this the same as drake biting herb Louie and Gucci flows? This happens all the time!

I listened to Barter 6 again this morning and while it's got it's moments, yep it's definitely not what I want from YT.