Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

Surprised there hasn't been talk of a live '65-'66 box.
wouldn't be tooooo surprised if this came out next year? complete newport set, hollywood bowl, the rumored carnegie hall tape, and various euro 66...

I don't think I ever realized Like a Rolling Stone was in 3/4 until hearing this rehearsal take. Is the released version in 4/4? Now I can't remember....

it switches up to 4/4 at some point

Released version 4/4

samples of all the six disc tunes here: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/music/bootleg-series-vol-12-cutting-edge-1965-1966-deluxe-edition

is it just me or does the cover art look very amateurish? maybe they're mimicing unauthorized boots

http://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2015/10/150924_boot12_cover-575x560-575x5601-575x560.jpg

Ah

See what you're getting at

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/music/194509/a-j-weberman?utm_source=tabletmagazinelist&utm_campaign=fe29e8a762-Sunday_November_1_201510_30_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c308bf8edb-fe29e8a762-207197409

Weird article about wacky guy A. J. Weberman, who would go through Bob Dylan's trash

A conversation with the noted garbologist about Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Meir Kahane, being a drug dealer, and what’s wrong with NY today

you can never get at the good garbage anymore

not lie in the old days

great picture of a very, very strung out dylan

take 1 of just like a woman here: http://www.vulture.com/2015/11/hear-alternate-version-of-bob-dylans-just-like-a-woman.html#

I believe there was an incident of fisticuffs between the two (xpost)

i have thrown dumbs many a bime in my time, right on this thread in fact

There was a bootleg consisting of Dylan and U-Don't-AJ-Weberman screaming at each other on the phone (or that's the way it was billed: somebody was screaming at somebody, apparently, although I never heard it). Also supposedly, AJ put all of Dylan's lyrics into a computer, which deduced that they were all about heroin.

duh?

AJ put all of Dylan's lyrics into a computer, which deduced that they were all about heroin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwh1INne97Q

the weberman thing is kind of interesting as an example of an artist actually engaging (briefly) with a truly nutso fan -- almost (not quite haha) like the Beatles having a sitdown w/ Charles Manson.

isn't it weird that even in a 30-second commercial, bob dylan cannot do a convincing line reading to save his life?

i don't know what ever gave them the idea that he should or could be in films.

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CPg5bekUsAEYkds.mp4

damn it!
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CPg5bekUsAEYkds.mp4

xpost

that's just one of the ways that neil young takes after his idol. he, too, has negative screen presence.

He's good in documentaries and doc/sketchedRenaldo and Clara, although more the Seinfeld-on- Seinfeld-type straight man in the latter.

As Jerry plays "Jerry," Bob plays "Bob," that is (haven't seen Masked and Anonymous or the one he did with that singer--Fiona?---think it was Hearts on Fire).

Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.

Masked and Anonymous is hilarious

Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.

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well, i wouldn't say he's "okay." his weirdo presence kind of works in context, but he's no actor.

i've watched 60 minutes of renaldo and clara, and i strongly suspect that those who say it ought to be on DVD really haven't seen it. it's terrible.

xpost

bob dylan doesn't really seem comfortable enough on camera to play "bob dylan"

he just looks like a deer in the headlights

"Isis" performance clip is good though, innit?

maybe my favorite bit: dylan discussing his family, "my mother tried to love me, but I think she was trying to kill me."

In masked & anonymous. Also highly recommend watching the making-of on the DVD, everyone's so confused.

Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.

Bob Dylan plays a character named Alias, and should have used one. His screen presence makes him look as if he's the victim of a practical jokes involving itching powder.

Nah he was okay, considering Peckinpah didn't pay him much attention/no direction and didn't really know who he was, according to Kristofferson. Flitting around, kind of the mischievous-looking Ariel to KK's lurching Caliban. Mainly good in the docs, but I did see all of R and C, and do think it should be on DVD. Description here:
http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2012/02/renaldo-and-clara-can-this-marriage-be.html

The DVD version of PGABTK that came out a few years ago is supposedly better than the theatrical version I saw, according to the few reviews I saw.

The version of Garrett on the second DVD (the "Preview Cut") is a bit better than the so-called "Definitive Version" on the first. The new editor fucked the opening and doesn't quite recover aside from restoring the vocals to the "Heaven's Door" sequence, which somehow got dropped from the Preview but included in the Theatrical (which has never been on DVD).

This is the review I remember most specifically:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/02/06/sagebrush-cut

He seems to be comparing it more to the previous DVD, although "disreputable cult film" is about right: aside from Dylan (Sragow: "Billy's enigmatic new friend, and he fits right in here") and the scene, with Slim Pickens and Katy Jurado reaching out to each other, that "Heaven" 's vocals are restored to, plus a few other bits, the theatrical version pretty much seemed an abrupt downturn for Peckinpah.

Peckinpah didn't have anything to do with the theatrical version. The Preview Cut is based off a version he signed off on that played for a test audience right before he lost final cut, a print he had stolen from the cutting room by a loyal editor.

the weberman thing is kind of interesting as an example of an artist actually engaging (briefly) with a truly nutso fan -- almost (not quite haha) like the Beatles having a sitdown w/ Charles Manson.

agnetha from abba dated an obsessive fan in the 90s, a weird story that I once read abt being suppressed in swedish collective consciousness but dunno abt that

can't find proper sources on it but this blog post (and comments section) is extraordinary http://abbamikory.blogs.com/abbamikory/2013/07/agnethas-love-affair-with-gert-will-be-a-theatre-play-next-year-in-uppsala.html

Ranaldo and Clara is a masterpiece, just wish there was a longer version

whoa, take 1 of "just like a woman"

ha yeah, sounds like he needs to finish writing it!

Starting to think again about getting Another Self-Portrait, even deluxe, for sake of the Isle of Wight set. How are the performance & audio, as presented here? Heard a boot long ago, with erratic sound.

You can find Isle of Wight pretty easily online if u don't wanna buy

isle of wight show is a treat -- and of course sounds much better than those audience recordings. totally unique sound for both the band and dylan ... hard to believe they're playing in front of hundreds of thousands, they sound so casual. surprised that columbia hasn't put it out on its own, really.

i have a bootleg lp from the early 70s of the isle of wight show, it's one of my favorite dylan shows, i love how his southern affectation comes out - "thank you, thank you. great to be here, shorrre is."

hard to believe they're playing in front of hundreds of thousands, they sound so casual.

And the last time they played the UK wasn't an altogether pleasant experience; it probably took some convincing to get Bob on the festival.

This show wasn't even part of a tour; it was their second of a grand total of three shows in 1969. Amazing that they sounded so tight.

http://www.salon.com/2015/11/05/bob_dylans_electric_trilogy_masterpieces_i_played_all_18_discs_and_357_tracks_heres_why_you_should/

Disappointed that the track order isn't purely chronological...I plan on listening to each session properly but will be a pain to sequence

tl;dr

ugh salon
yeah the isle of wight recording is pretty tantalizing ... wish there were other tapes of dylan & the band from 1969. Maybe even rehearsals for the isle of wight?