Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

yeah yr prob right. just punchier.

I'm pretty into this so far....for me, Dylan bootleg series entries generally fall into 3 categories:

1) official release of some legendary shit (Live 66, Basement Tapes Complete)

2) ones that attempt to redefine your perception of an era (Another Self-Portrait, Rolling Thunder, Tell-Tale Signs)

3) Catnip for hardcore Dylan dorks

This is squarely in category 3 (it's not like this era is exactly in need of critical reappraisal), but it's pretty fun for me

I think my 2 dream Bootlegs at this point are:

1) Christian era outtakes/live/etc a la Another Self-Portrait/Tell-Tale Signs

2) A 3-CD version of Blood on the Tracks that breaks the album down into 2 different version - the NYC version and the Minneapolis version, then a 3rd CD of outtakes

4) A compilation of great never ending tour live material with great sound

Lol my count's terrible

xxp luckily for you I think both of those will probably happen in the next decade

4) A compilation of great never ending tour live material with great sound
this would be great, but i'd probably prefer like a dick's/dave's picks kinda approach w/ this stuff, with full shows, rather than a comp? i don't know, i'd take anything. i love the neverending tour.

do you know if they've made a habit of recording it (i mean Dylan's actual crew in a professional manner not just tapers)?

Full shows would be great too, and probably more in the spirit of the neverending community

Really hope someone's been taping good - but iirc judging from audio quality on live takes from tell tale signs maybe not

some shows sound like they might be professionally recorded---maybe not soundboard, but maybe by a professional? Like Pete Cosey mentioned to an interviewer that he was in the habit of recording while onstage with Miles (kept a box of tapes under his bed, listened when he felt like it).

After this sampler, I wanna hear a fast-ass "Sad-Eyed Lady Of Thee Lowlands."

Surprised there hasn't been talk of a live '65-'66 box.

OK wow this double time boogie Visions of Johanna

you know what this reminds me of a bit? Jason & the Scorchers' cover of "Absolutely Sweet Marie"

Surprised there hasn't been talk of a live '65-'66 box.
wouldn't be tooooo surprised if this came out next year? complete newport set, hollywood bowl, the rumored carnegie hall tape, and various euro 66...

I don't think I ever realized Like a Rolling Stone was in 3/4 until hearing this rehearsal take. Is the released version in 4/4? Now I can't remember....

it switches up to 4/4 at some point

Released version 4/4

samples of all the six disc tunes here: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/music/bootleg-series-vol-12-cutting-edge-1965-1966-deluxe-edition

is it just me or does the cover art look very amateurish? maybe they're mimicing unauthorized boots

http://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2015/10/150924_boot12_cover-575x560-575x5601-575x560.jpg

Ah

See what you're getting at

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/music/194509/a-j-weberman?utm_source=tabletmagazinelist&utm_campaign=fe29e8a762-Sunday_November_1_201510_30_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c308bf8edb-fe29e8a762-207197409

Weird article about wacky guy A. J. Weberman, who would go through Bob Dylan's trash

A conversation with the noted garbologist about Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Meir Kahane, being a drug dealer, and what’s wrong with NY today

you can never get at the good garbage anymore

not lie in the old days

great picture of a very, very strung out dylan

take 1 of just like a woman here: http://www.vulture.com/2015/11/hear-alternate-version-of-bob-dylans-just-like-a-woman.html#

I believe there was an incident of fisticuffs between the two (xpost)

i have thrown dumbs many a bime in my time, right on this thread in fact

There was a bootleg consisting of Dylan and U-Don't-AJ-Weberman screaming at each other on the phone (or that's the way it was billed: somebody was screaming at somebody, apparently, although I never heard it). Also supposedly, AJ put all of Dylan's lyrics into a computer, which deduced that they were all about heroin.

duh?

AJ put all of Dylan's lyrics into a computer, which deduced that they were all about heroin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwh1INne97Q

the weberman thing is kind of interesting as an example of an artist actually engaging (briefly) with a truly nutso fan -- almost (not quite haha) like the Beatles having a sitdown w/ Charles Manson.

isn't it weird that even in a 30-second commercial, bob dylan cannot do a convincing line reading to save his life?

i don't know what ever gave them the idea that he should or could be in films.

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CPg5bekUsAEYkds.mp4

damn it!
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CPg5bekUsAEYkds.mp4

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that's just one of the ways that neil young takes after his idol. he, too, has negative screen presence.

He's good in documentaries and doc/sketchedRenaldo and Clara, although more the Seinfeld-on- Seinfeld-type straight man in the latter.

As Jerry plays "Jerry," Bob plays "Bob," that is (haven't seen Masked and Anonymous or the one he did with that singer--Fiona?---think it was Hearts on Fire).

Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.

Masked and Anonymous is hilarious

Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.

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well, i wouldn't say he's "okay." his weirdo presence kind of works in context, but he's no actor.

i've watched 60 minutes of renaldo and clara, and i strongly suspect that those who say it ought to be on DVD really haven't seen it. it's terrible.

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bob dylan doesn't really seem comfortable enough on camera to play "bob dylan"

he just looks like a deer in the headlights

"Isis" performance clip is good though, innit?

maybe my favorite bit: dylan discussing his family, "my mother tried to love me, but I think she was trying to kill me."

In masked & anonymous. Also highly recommend watching the making-of on the DVD, everyone's so confused.

Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.

Bob Dylan plays a character named Alias, and should have used one. His screen presence makes him look as if he's the victim of a practical jokes involving itching powder.

Nah he was okay, considering Peckinpah didn't pay him much attention/no direction and didn't really know who he was, according to Kristofferson. Flitting around, kind of the mischievous-looking Ariel to KK's lurching Caliban. Mainly good in the docs, but I did see all of R and C, and do think it should be on DVD. Description here:
http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2012/02/renaldo-and-clara-can-this-marriage-be.html

The DVD version of PGABTK that came out a few years ago is supposedly better than the theatrical version I saw, according to the few reviews I saw.

The version of Garrett on the second DVD (the "Preview Cut") is a bit better than the so-called "Definitive Version" on the first. The new editor fucked the opening and doesn't quite recover aside from restoring the vocals to the "Heaven's Door" sequence, which somehow got dropped from the Preview but included in the Theatrical (which has never been on DVD).

This is the review I remember most specifically:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/02/06/sagebrush-cut

He seems to be comparing it more to the previous DVD, although "disreputable cult film" is about right: aside from Dylan (Sragow: "Billy's enigmatic new friend, and he fits right in here") and the scene, with Slim Pickens and Katy Jurado reaching out to each other, that "Heaven" 's vocals are restored to, plus a few other bits, the theatrical version pretty much seemed an abrupt downturn for Peckinpah.