preacher: the movie

I think the main story and main characters in Preacher are pretty good and might make for a decent TV series. It's all the extra stuff, the macho posturing, the homophobic minor characters, Ennis' anti-PC rants, etc, which makes it less than perfect.

And by 'extra stuff', you of course mean the bulk of the series.

i guess i'm "lucky" i read the series without caring too much about the politics at the time

I wasn't exactly a paragon of maturity when I read the series (or now, to be fair) but I still remember thinking it was often over the top juvenile.

I couldn't finish the first trade paper collection. It's a tossup between Transmetropolitan and Preacher for worst series I've tried to get into.

If your age didn't start with a 1 when you started reading either, that totally makes sense.

Transmet is at least 60x worse than Preacher though

Yes - Preacher also much better drawn than Transmet (not that ILC ever seems to give much of a shit about the pictures side of the word/image equation)

Agreed. For all his faults, Ennis at least knows how to writer interesting, well fleshed-out characters. In fact, I'd say characterization is probably his greatest strength, the problems only arise when he decides to make them a mouthpiece for whatever rant he has on his mind this month. This is why I though Boys as a whole was better than Preacher... In that comic he usually toned down the rants (though The Legends still gets a few lengthy ones), and it also felt like he was genuinely trying to tackle with chauvinism/sexism present in his earlier work with the character arcs of Wee Hughie and Starlight.

warren ellis only knows how to write 2 characters: idealised warren ellises and the straw men they kick in the balls

Preacher had some good plotting, entertaining dialogue and exciting twists and turns for all its faults. Literally no idea how the series will turn out.

(not that ILC ever seems to give much of a shit about the pictures side of the word/image equation)

? This is not the case at all ime.

C+F - no matches found for Steve Dillon

This thread is for the movie/TV adaptation of Preacher though... Seems much more likely that they'll adapt Ennis' stories than Dillon's art, so the pictures aren't really a big part of the discussion.

It's an interesting question though: are there many comic book movies/shows that have tried to adapt the visual style of the source material, and not just the story? Off the top of my head, the only examples I can think of are Sin City. Persepolis, and the Corto Maltese movie. And I guess some anime movies too, like Akira. But obviously this is easier to do with animation than with live action, is Sin City the only movie that tried the latter?

I think in live-action comic book movies/shows, most of the times they only add a few shots that homage specific panels/pages, like the recent episode of the Flash series that did homage to the famous "Flash of Two Worlds" cover image.

advance publicity for Beatty's Dick Tracy made a huge deal about how comics-like the block-colours production design was, apparently all written by PRs and reporters who had never looked at a panel of Gould.

other not too successful examples: Snyder's Watchmen and his upcoming Supes vs. Bats

Tintin?

scott pilgrim

oh yeah, definitely. Scott Pilgrim the film also continued the visual motifs that the comic used in aping video games as well

Tintin?

a) rotoscoping is not live-action, and b) one takes it you have never read a Tintin book

Scott Pilgrim fantastic at capturing the mixture of intimacy and vivacity of the comic, but not that visually similar on a style basis. especially for being in rich, saturated colour

Not seen Miller's Spirit movie - does he emulate Eisner visuals at any point?

the first sin city looked, more or less, like it leapt from the comic.
the fun home musical does an amazing job through casting, costuming, makeup and set design of feeling like the characters walked out of the comic... though much of the story is shuttled around and different

i think i can live a full life without ever seeing the spirit movie

xxxpost One should take it that I've never seen a Tintin movie (hence the ?).

The Tintin animated TV series was fairly faithful to Herge's style, but yeah, the CGI movie is about as far from it as you can get.

I can't remember the Watchmen movie trying to emulate Gibbon's art to the screen in any significant way? Obviously the hyperdetailed panels and steady rhythm of the 3x3 grid is kinda hard to transfer to moving images, but IIRC Snyder didn't even use the one part that could have worked in cinema, i.e. the constantly recurring visual symbols and shapes.

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The Spirit movie has some homages to Eisner's work IIRC but it's inevitably drowned in Miller's excess

Revive! There was some discussion on the TV series in the Marvel cinema thread, but it'd be better to continue it here, where we don't have to avoid spoilers.

I read somewhere that Odin Quincanon is going to be one of the major villains of the series, a guy who if you remember turned up in probably the most boring Preacher storyline way way into the run.

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I guess I can understand why they'd do this, because Quincannon is pretty much the most harmless, least blasphemous villain in the series, so using him won't make any viewers angry. But it'd still be a boring choice.

Um, dude fucked a giant woman made out of meat. Just sayin'.

It seems like a mistake to try adapting this comic anytime after the turn of the millennium.

I know what he fucked, but he's still the least offensive villain in the comic, since his story doesn't involve making fun of Christians or gays or disabled people. The only thing that Ennis mocks in that arc is the KKK, which shouldn't lead to too many angry protests if adapted to TV.

i would guess the series is gonna bear only the slightest resemblance to the book and thank god

It only dawned on me yesterday that Jesse is played by the guy who plays/played Howard Stark in the MCU.

Literally the only enticing aspect of this for me.

Oh, okay, I didn't realize Ruth Negga from Agents of SHIELD was playing Tulip. That's two enticing, Marvel-related aspects.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/05/18/amc-offers-the-first-four-minutes-of-preacher/

I'll watch the first ep or two out of respect for the me who bought these on the newsstand but i am highly skeptical

yeah, that's pretty much where i am too.

dominic cooper is terrible at american accents so i'm morbidly curious at how badly he'll mangle a southern accent - he also seems about 10 years too old to be playing jesse

I was reading a thing yesterday about how this has been Seth Rogen's passion project for over a decade and I thought, 'Really? Preacher?' It's like cashing your chips to make a biopic about the Bloodhound Gang.

lol, that was my take too but rogen has made millions of dollars marketing to the slightly too cool for kevin smith crowd so why stop now?
dude made a fucking green hornet movie for crissakes

I don't think that footage looks too bad, but I'm mildly annoyed that they've cast such a handsome dude to play Arseface. The whole point of the character is he's fucking grotesque! In no way does this guy look he blew half his head off with a shotgun.

http://cdn1-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2016/03/arsefaceheader.jpg

he does in the way that the lower half of his face looks like an asshole

How would a shotgun do that without Cobaining the top half of his head as well?

alan sepinwall - who's about as reliable a TV critic there is and purports to love the comic - had a v positive review http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-why-seth-rogens-preacher-was-wise-to-chart-a-course-away-from-the-comics

(no spoilers)

purports to love the comic

thing is if you're a grown adult who still loves preacher i dunno if i trust yr judgement

Should we get a mod to change the thread title to "preacher: the tv show" and move it to ILE?

I enjoyed this. The accents are pretty much all wack, but the tone of the comics is there, and Ruth Negga is fantastic as Tulip.

don't rewrite history imo

Hands up who exactly would be surprised if Rogen announced that his next project would be a biopic about the Bloodhound Gang.

i really liked this!

i like how they've set up the show to stand on its own. cast is great - accent are def garbage but the comedy & personalities are well set

i was a fan of the comics in college but it was def of its own time, like i nostalgically went back & reread them a while back & was like hmmm nope. I didnt want a slavish recreation of the original, so i guess some of my enjoyment of the show is partly just relief